Discussion 2025 Opening Round Discussion

[SavDog23]

Why
That costs you a trade then but if you get him now its a free hit and get the increase

Cause Taylor is a KPD and unlikely to be a keeper with volatile scoring. He could score 60 next week and kill his cash gen right at his bye and then you're stuck with him at an awkward price as well as missing a good score for RD2 bye, which then costs you a trade trading him out, but you have no price or point gain.

Ideal scenario is he goes 100+ again next week, trade him in after his bye and to get the nice cash gen for 2-3 weeks even if his scoring drops. If he keeps pumping out tons then that's a bonus, but as a KPD I'm expecting 60-100s so would only hold him until his price peaks.

My thinking is to start Perryman, grab his RD1-2 score (~100-110) and RD2 price rise (40-50k), then trade Perryman to Taylor (if he goes 100+ RD1) at RD3 and ride the cash gen (~60-100k depending on scores), then move Taylor on to a Ryan/Whitfield/Flanders type premo at his peak.
We have 40 trades so moves like this should be more common imo.

 

[THE_GUN]

Cause Taylor is a KPD and unlikely to be a keeper with volatile scoring. He could score 60 next week and kill his cash gen right at his bye and then you're stuck with him at an awkward price as well as missing a good score for RD2 bye, which then costs you a trade trading him out, but you have no price or point gain.

Ideal scenario is he goes 100+ again next week, trade him in after his bye and to get the nice cash gen for 2-3 weeks even if his scoring drops. If he keeps pumping out tons then that's a bonus, but as a KPD I'm expecting 60-100s so would only hold him until his price peaks.

My thinking is to start Perryman, grab his RD1-2 score (~100-110) and RD2 price rise (40-50k), then trade Perryman to Taylor (if he goes 100+ RD1) at RD3 and ride the cash gen (~60-100k depending on scores), then move Taylor on to a Ryan/Whitfield/Flanders type premo at his peak.
We have 40 trades so moves like this should be more common imo.

Perryman is $417,500 and 139 points
Taylor is $384,300 and 93 points
$33k difference and 46 points

Playing against melbourne id be backing him to get 75+ next week
just see it as an opportunity to get a decent cash grab at worst and might have a great year and keep his average to 90
and he plays 100% game time which is always handy

 

[buttox]

Perryman is $417,500 and 139 points
Taylor is $384,300 and 93 points
$33k difference and 46 points

Playing against melbourne id be backing him to get 75+ next week
just see it as an opportunity to get a decent cash grab at worst and might have a great year and keep his average to 90
and he plays 100% game time which is always handy

He's a very good player but not many kpd are relevant.

 

[dabombers]

Cause Taylor is a KPD and unlikely to be a keeper with volatile scoring. He could score 60 next week and kill his cash gen right at his bye and then you're stuck with him at an awkward price as well as missing a good score for RD2 bye, which then costs you a trade trading him out, but you have no price or point gain.

Ideal scenario is he goes 100+ again next week, trade him in after his bye and to get the nice cash gen for 2-3 weeks even if his scoring drops. If he keeps pumping out tons then that's a bonus, but as a KPD I'm expecting 60-100s so would only hold him until his price peaks.

My thinking is to start Perryman, grab his RD1-2 score (~100-110) and RD2 price rise (40-50k), then trade Perryman to Taylor (if he goes 100+ RD1) at RD3 and ride the cash gen (~60-100k depending on scores), then move Taylor on to a Ryan/Whitfield/Flanders type premo at his peak.
We have 40 trades so moves like this should be more common imo.

Taylor reminded me of Prime Sicily, and Ridley intercept mark floating free defender. And 100% gametime.

And we know how those guys scored top 6 defenders multiple seasons.

Another game note is Ash and Whitfield doing almost identically on either side of the HBF. Just left and right clones. Only difference is Ash tackles.

 

[Jiska]

was all over Cameron a few weeks ago, I thought he had an injury?

You were on the money. He was pretty impressive tonight rucking against no one.

 

[Jiska]

Not super concerned about Leake's TOG.

Was on debut after all, and quite an impressive debut rookie score for the percentage of game time he played.

Please. If there were 6 rookie Defenders, you’d drop him in an instant. Structure your team so you don’t need him.

 

[54Dogs]

Cause Taylor is a KPD and unlikely to be a keeper with volatile scoring. He could score 60 next week and kill his cash gen right at his bye and then you're stuck with him at an awkward price as well as missing a good score for RD2 bye, which then costs you a trade trading him out, but you have no price or point gain.

Ideal scenario is he goes 100+ again next week, trade him in after his bye and to get the nice cash gen for 2-3 weeks even if his scoring drops. If he keeps pumping out tons then that's a bonus, but as a KPD I'm expecting 60-100s so would only hold him until his price peaks.

My thinking is to start Perryman, grab his RD1-2 score (~100-110) and RD2 price rise (40-50k), then trade Perryman to Taylor (if he goes 100+ RD1) at RD3 and ride the cash gen (~60-100k depending on scores), then move Taylor on to a Ryan/Whitfield/Flanders type premo at his peak.
We have 40 trades so moves like this should be more common imo.

I still managed to run very short post byes last yr

 

[Jiska]

All the GWS rookie priced players had lowish TOG.

Yeah, nah, they didn’t. Connor and Max had good TOG for a Rookie.

Connor Stone 77%
Max Gruzewski 68%
James Leake 54%

 

[54Dogs]

Yeah, nah, they didn’t. Connor and Max had good TOG for a Rookie.

Connor Stone 77%
Max Gruzewski 68%
James Leake 54%

It was pretty clear with TOG and role they planned to sub Leake out before the injury. Feels like a reasonable fade to start as if injuries allow his role to firm up he can be traded in post bye on the bubble

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Got Perryman and Roberts. Notmuch else to add maybe Callaghan.

 

[Funbeanman]

James Leake may be dropped next week for Tom Green

 

[THE_GUN]

He's a very good player but not many kpd are relevant.

The difference between Taylor & your usual KPD is that he takes alot of marks and kicks the ball and doesnt just spoil
also coming off an injury riddled year and he value low i suppose i see a 100k increase in 4-5 games

 

[SavDog23]

Perryman is $417,500 and 139 points
Taylor is $384,300 and 93 points
$33k difference and 46 points

Playing against melbourne id be backing him to get 75+ next week
just see it as an opportunity to get a decent cash grab at worst and might have a great year and keep his average to 90
and he plays 100% game time which is always handy

Yeah he will likely score well next week either way. It just depends whether you want to risk the worst case scenario against the best case scenario with starting a KPD like Taylor.

Worst: Start Taylor, scores 60 next week, bye in RD2 so rookie score instead (~60), minimal price rise in RD3 and his cash gen is gone so you have to find 2 trades to trade him up to a premo or just downgrade him to a rookie if his scoring sucks.

Best: Start Taylor, scores 110 next week, bye in RD2 so rookie score instead (~60), good price rise in RD3 and keeps scoring decent so you have the option to trade or keep for a while and sideways to a more secure premo.

OR if I start Perryman, goes 105 RD1 and 105 RD2 (instead of rookie ~60) and rises $40-50k, trade to Taylor who's breakeven is confirmed at RD3 so you have a better idea of what his cash gen and scoring potential is. You get that bonus cash gen and RD2 score from Perryman, and a better look at KPD Taylor to confirm whether it's worth the trade or not.

 

[Veer Right]

Not sure Perryman is a must have. 90 average is quite possible and the bye.

I liked him early on today but in saying that his disposal by foot is shit and does handballing get you good scores?

toxic

 

[SavDog23]

I still managed to run very short post byes last yr

Same here, but that's 90% because I'm a tradeaholic

 

[MacStradbroke]

Perryman did not finish the game on the bench.

McCreery, Maynard, ND and Elliott.

Nice try tho.

And 22 & 21 games last two seasons….I smell a rat!!!

 

[Jiska]

Not sure Perryman is a must have. 90 average is quite possible and the bye.

I liked him early on today but in saying that his disposal by foot is shit and does handballing get you good scores?

toxic

Clarry is an atrocious kick and consistently gets massive scores

 

[FAILTOSUCCEED]

Trac is my M1 now. Squeezed in a 5th mid by sacrificing Serong.

Trac, Day, Cerra, Oliver, Callaghan.

So much value to be had, i think.

 

[Blackhawk42]

The concern is he’s a chance of missing out to Green next week or be a sub candidate.

Is Green even close?

He was limping and wearing a compression sleeve on his calf in the changerooms.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Is Green even close?

He was limping and wearing a compression sleeve on his calf in the changerooms.

That was just cramp

 

[A Bit Dusty]

That was just cramp

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Perryman did not finish the game on the bench.

McCreery, Maynard, ND and Elliott.

Nice try tho.

Must have come on right at the end. 38% tog in q4

 

[toxic]

Not sure Perryman is a must have. 90 average is quite possible and the bye.

I liked him early on today but in saying that his disposal by foot is shit and does handballing get you good scores?

toxic

My thoughts haven't changed
80-90 sc average.

He's okay value but nowhere near Roberts value

 

[dabombers]

Clarry is an atrocious kick and consistently gets massive scores

Oliver gets CP’s CL’s and chains involved in scoring involvements.

If the Pies scored 90points Perryman's score would have been 120ish.

Also he sideways kicked too much which is zero metres gained.

The Pies were just Spam Ham today and GWS were Caviar.

Results may be different in Melbourne.

 

[Jiska]

Oliver gets CP’s CL’s and chains involved in scoring involvements.

If the Pies scored 90points Perryman's score would have been 120ish.

Also he sideways kicked too much which is zero metres gained.

The Pies were just Spam Ham today and GWS were Caviar.

Results may be different in Melbourne.

Unfortunately I think the Pies will be spam ham for good portions of the year.