List Mgmt. 2025 Premiership(s) List Making and Trading

[Kane McGoodwin]

For the right price if a club came knocking



Seems crazy people wouldn't trade him to improve our midfield

We don't need to trade Max to improve our midfield!

Trading Dawson would completely ****up out midfield!

 

[adelaidecrows]

My final list of changes

Untouchables / recently acquired / Development	Trade / depth	Open to Delist / Retire
Isaac Cumming Dan Curtin Jordan Dawson 12 Jordan Dawson Age 28 Ht 190cm Wt 91kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 17.0 4star K 11.4 4star HB 5.7 4star M 4.8 5star T 2.8 4star CL 0.6 3star D 15.7 4star K 10.9 4star HB 4.9 3star M 2.9 3star T 2.0 3star CL 0.4 3star D 11.8 3star K 7.8 3star HB 4.0 3star M 5.0 5star T 3.0 5star CL 0.6 3star Billy Dowling Sid Draper Charlie Edwards Darcy Fogarty 32 Darcy Fogarty Age 26 Ht 192cm Wt 100kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 8.5 2star K 5.7 2star HB 2.8 2star M 3.7 4star T 1.7 4star G 1.2 4star D 6.3 1star K 4.0 1star HB 2.3 2star M 3.0 3star T 2.3 3star G 1.0 4star D 8.0 2star K 5.4 2star HB 2.6 3star M 3.4 4star T 2.6 4star G 1.0 4star Mitch Hinge Mark Keane Ben Keays 2 Ben Keays Age 28 Ht 185cm Wt 86kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.1 3star K 5.8 2star HB 7.3 5star M 2.3 2star T 3.9 5star G 0.4 3star D 13.7 3star K 8.7 3star HB 5.0 3star M 2.8 3star T 3.7 4star G 0.3 3star D 13.0 4star K 4.8 2star HB 8.2 5star M 1.4 2star T 4.4 5star G 0.4 3star Lachlan McAndrew (R) Max Michanney Wayne Milera 30 Wayne Milera Age 28 Ht 185cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 16.9 4star K 10.0 4star HB 6.8 4star M 4.3 4star T 2.5 4star MG 265.3 4star D 15.0 4star K 8.5 3star HB 6.5 4star M 3.5 3star T 1.0 2star MG 282.0 4star D 11.4 3star K 5.8 3star HB 5.6 4star M 3.0 3star T 1.4 4star MG 182.0 3star Nick Murray Tony Murray (R) Luke Nankervis Alex Neal-Bullen 28 Alex Neal-bullen Age 29 Ht 182cm Wt 80kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 15.3 4star K 8.7 3star HB 6.6 4star M 2.8 3star T 4.1 5star CL 1.4 4star D 10.5 3star K 6.0 2star HB 4.5 3star M 2.0 2star T 1.5 2star CL 0.5 3star D 10.0 3star K 5.0 2star HB 5.0 4star M 1.4 2star T 2.0 4star CL 0.2 2star Reilly O’Brien James Peatling Josh Rachele Izak Rankine 23 Izak Rankine Age 25 Ht 179cm Wt 82kg Pos. M/F Career Season Last 5 D 13.0 3star K 9.0 3star HB 4.0 3star M 2.7 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.7 4star D 13.0 3star K 9.0 4star HB 4.0 3star M 2.7 3star T 2.7 4star CL 1.7 4star D 13.0 4star K 9.0 4star HB 4.0 3star M 2.7 3star T 2.7 5star CL 1.7 4star Oscar Ryan Jake Soligo Riley Thilthorpe Tyler Welsh Josh Worrell	Sam Berry Jordan Butts Brayden Cook Chayce Jones 1 Chayce Jones Age 25 Ht 180cm Wt 84kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 10.0 3star K 5.4 2star HB 4.6 3star M 1.7 2star T 1.9 4star CL 1.3 3star D 8.9 2star K 4.9 2star HB 4.0 3star M 1.4 2star T 1.6 3star CL 1.1 3star D 9.4 3star K 4.4 2star HB 5.0 4star M 1.6 2star T 1.8 4star CL 0.8 3star Luke Pedlar Lachlan Sholl Zac Taylor	James Borlase R Chris Burgess 21 Chris Burgess Age 30 Ht 193cm Wt 97kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 8.2 2star K 3.9 2star HB 4.3 3star M 2.7 3star T 1.6 4star G 0.3 3star No current season stats available D 6.6 2star K 3.8 2star HB 2.8 3star M 2.6 3star T 2.4 4star G 0.4 3star R Matt Crouch 5 Matt Crouch Age 30 Ht 181cm Wt 85kg Pos. Mid Career Season Last 5 D 28.4 5star K 12.0 4star HB 16.4 5star M 3.3 3star T 3.9 5star CL 4.8 5star D 24.9 5star K 9.7 4star HB 15.1 5star M 2.4 3star T 2.4 3star CL 4.4 5star D 21.2 5star K 10.4 4star HB 10.8 5star M 4.4 4star T 3.4 5star CL 2.0 4star Brayden Cook Karl Gallagher R Rory Laird 29 Rory Laird Age 31 Ht 178cm Wt 85kg Pos. D/M Career Season Last 5 D 25.4 5star K 12.9 5star HB 12.5 5star M 5.4 5star T 2.3 4star MG 367.5 5star D 19.6 5star K 10.9 4star HB 8.7 4star M 3.4 3star T 2.4 3star MG 255.3 4star D 14.6 4star K 7.4 3star HB 7.2 5star M 3.2 4star T 4.0 5star Lachlan Murphy 4 Lachlan Murphy Age 27 Ht 178cm Wt 83kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 9.8 2star K 5.8 2star HB 4.0 3star M 2.3 2star T 3.4 5star G 0.9 4star D 8.8 2star K 4.8 2star HB 4.0 3star M 1.8 2star T 3.2 4star G 0.7 4star D 9.0 3star K 6.2 3star HB 2.8 3star M 1.8 2star T 3.6 5star G 1.0 4star Luke Pedlar Harry Schoenberg R Lachlan Sholl Brodie Smith 33 Brodie Smith Age 33 Ht 194cm Wt 88kg Pos. Def Career Season Last 5 D 19.5 5star K 12.3 5star HB 7.2 4star M 4.2 4star T 2.1 4star MG 500.1 5star D 17.1 4star K 12.6 5star HB 4.5 3star M 3.5 3star T 2.3 3star MG 438.9 5star D 17.2 5star K 10.8 4star HB 6.4 4star M 3.8 4star T 3.6 5star Kieran Strachan Taylor Walker 13 Taylor Walker Age 35 Ht 192cm Wt 102kg Pos. Fwd Career Season Last 5 D 13.0 3star K 9.0 3star HB 4.0 3star M 5.7 5star T 1.6 4star G 2.3 5star No current season stats available D 8.0 2star K 6.4 3star HB 1.6 2star M 4.2 4star T 1.6 4star G 1.6 5star

 

[spenze]

Try posting sober next time

Hey, that post could be about me eevery Friday night

 

[spenze]

We don't need to trade Max to improve our midfield!

Trading Dawson would completely ****up out midfield!

It isn't about Max, it is more about we have to give up something good to get something. We are unlikely to FA our way into a dominant mid and drafting one takes time (especially with our penchant to make them do apprenticeships) so if we are going to wiggle one free, it will cost us something decent and we have to be willing to do that.

 

[Interloperer]

So who would be on your list of untradeables?

Think my list is currently only three players
Rachele
Thilthorpe
Curtin

Add Worrell.

And Rankine because clubs would want a damaged goods discount.

 

[FR0GGY]

Dont believe so

The AFL system isnt really for him i dont think

Why’s that and why wouldn’t we look at him?

 

[Cromulant]

Why’s that and why wouldn’t we look at him?

Id hope we do look at him personally.

But I know when we let him go last time he thought it didnt suit his lifestyle.

 

[Carn The Texan]

When do the exit meetings start? We need unprecedented levels of renewal.

 

[GreyCrow]

When do the exit meetings start? We need unprecedented levels of renewal.

Gotta get through a messy Mad Monday which will be reported by every flog and his dog on Tuesday

 

[Cromulant]

Exit interviews start Tuesday I think

 

[FR0GGY]

Id hope we do look at him personally.

But I know when we let him go last time he thought it didnt suit his lifestyle.

Just found this on the swans website.
“
Husband to Chelsea and father to sons Jimmy and Oscar, and enjoying his full-time role at Unley Oval, Mattner has been often linked with a return to AFL ranks this year. But while he says “you never say never” it’s a definite ‘not now’.

“It’s family-first at the moment, and I enjoy the flexibility that the Sturt job offers. The boys are nine and 13 and are busy with school and their own footy, and it’s nice to have been able to be involved in all that and see nearly every game they’ve played.”


Reckon he’ll be back in the afl in 5 or so years

 

[Mattrox]

Sack whoever gave ROB 3 years

I was hopeful ROB had worked out his rucking. Looks like malaise has set in.

Sit him in the SANFL for a few rounds at the start of the year and show him his next 3 years. He's capaable, but he's proven he needs a fire lit under him to perform.

It's time to rejig whatever plan they use in the centre because it's not working. I saw set ups with Dawson in different positions, the Thilthorpe and Curtin in the centre... etc At least with Thilthorpe there was a secondary contest....I think I saw 2 hit outs to advantage from ROB. One was then tackled immiately then Hawthorn one the ball. Another time we defended Hawthorn after their stoppage clearance and there was a ball up. ROB hit it out into space.... we didn't win that. He's doing the ruck attendants no favours and the midfielders are also ineffective.

On top of that the ruck rules change next year.

I was sceptical when VB was appointed. Boys club and all that. But I heard on a radio program he was highly rated at West Coast. He would want to show why he's highly rated very quickly next year.

Recruiting midfielders is a priority. But we also need a strategy that stands up under pressure.

 

[Cromulant]

Just found this on the swans website.
“
Husband to Chelsea and father to sons Jimmy and Oscar, and enjoying his full-time role at Unley Oval, Mattner has been often linked with a return to AFL ranks this year. But while he says “you never say never” it’s a definite ‘not now’.

“It’s family-first at the moment, and I enjoy the flexibility that the Sturt job offers. The boys are nine and 13 and are busy with school and their own footy, and it’s nice to have been able to be involved in all that and see nearly every game they’ve played.”


Reckon he’ll be back in the afl in 5 or so years

Yeah i think once the kids are a bit older, and he feels like hes achieved all he wants to with his beloved Double Blues.

What hes built down there for us, we are forever grateful.

 

[Cromulant]

I was hopeful ROB had worked out his rucking. Looks like malaise has set in.

Sit him in the SANFL for a few rounds at the start of the year and show him his next 3 years. He's capaable, but he's proven he needs a fire lit under him to perform.

It's time to rejig whatever plan they use in the centre because it's not working. I saw set ups with Dawson in different positions, the Thilthorpe and Curtin in the centre... etc At least with Thilthorpe there was a secondary contest....I think I saw 2 hit outs to advantage from ROB. One was then tackled immiately then Hawthorn one the ball. Another time we defended Hawthorn after their stoppage clearance and there was a ball up. ROB hit it out into space.... we didn't win that. He's doing the ruck attendants no favours and the midfielders are also ineffective.

On top of that the ruck rules change next year.

I was sceptical when VB was appointed. Boys club and all that. But I heard on a radio program he was highly rated at West Coast. He would want to show why he's highly rated very quickly next year.

Recruiting midfielders is a priority. But we also need a strategy that stands up under pressure.

I dont particularly rate VB, but hes hardly had anything to work with from a midfield perspective

 

[Mattrox]

No doubt that's the glaring issue but I dont see how it gets it done in finals.

Need to find a balance. I thought Berry was gonna be the defensive accountability guy, Soligo the inside to out guy and Dawson outside but it looks like Berry fancies himself a silky mid type and Jake just too inconsistent at the moment. Dawson trying to play 3 roles at once.

And Dawson is doing it with a foot injury. He was coy about it in his interview.

 

[Scorpus]

I dont particularly rate VB, but hes hardly had anything to work with from a midfield perspective

Ask yourself this though. Has any midfielder improved under him?

 

[Cromulant]

Ask yourself this though. Has any midfielder improved under him?

Fair question.

Dawson is an AA midfielder, id say Soligo too though he struggled through the back half of the year. Rankine looked to be on track for an AA spot too before moving forward again late in the year.

Curtin the next one.

Outside of that probably not, but who has he had to work with ??

 

[Mattrox]

Keep bond and Taylor .

Delist everyone else out of contract
Trade Sholl and Jones

Not sure anyone wants them.

Probably 1 or 2 of Sholl, Jones and Shoenberg get a mulligan because of the number of people we can realistically bring in. If all 3 are gone, that would be a sign of some irons in the fire.

 

[Cromulant]

Not sure anyone wants them.

Probably 1 or 2 of Sholl, Jones and Shoenberg get a mulligan because of the number of people we can realistically bring in. If all 3 are gone, that would be a sign of some irons in the fire.

Sholl will find somewhere. Jones contracted so he'll stay then head home to Tassie.

Harry shouldnt get another gig.

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Zac Bailey

33

Zac Bailey

Age

26

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

12.9

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.4

3star

CL

0.7

3star

D

13.4

4star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.8

5star

CL

0.6

3star

Sam Flanders
Mattaes Phillipou

I'd be going hard after these 3.

Not that I want to lose him, but if Butts wants to go and we get paid overs for him, we need to use whatever we receive to get at least one of the above.

 

[GreyCrow]

I dont particularly rate VB, but hes hardly had anything to work with from a midfield perspective

We are stacked

 

[Cromulant]

We are stacked

If only

 

[fossilllCrow]

Zac Bailey
Sam Flanders
Mattaes Phillipou

I'd be going hard after these 3.

Not that I want to lose him, but if Butts wants to go and we get paid overs for him, we need to use whatever we receive to get at least one of the above.

Whomever gets Flanders will get a bargain as well. 2/3 would be sensational but also we need to get it done on 2 mids. No excuses.

 

[fossilllCrow]

Exit interviews start Tuesday I think

Imagine hungover as balls getting roasted about not being able to drop the ball to your foot when you are on like 600k.

 

[hugecannon]

Zac Bailey
Sam Flanders
Mattaes Phillipou

I'd be going hard after these 3.

Not that I want to lose him, but if Butts wants to go and we get paid overs for him, we need to use whatever we receive to get at least one of the above.

Hasn’t Phillipou just resigned recently?

Swap him with maybe Powell (if the Butts to North rumours are true)