Autopsy 2025 Round 18 Lions by 37. Poor skills and lack of class

[itchee40]

Save us CEO Wright

 

[Wickzki]

I said it in the game thread but I'll reiterate it here.

We do not have a half back line.

Every time the opposition gets the centre break the ball is guaranteed to be going deep

It exposes our extremely slow midfield. It exposes just how tall we're trying to play against any team with skilful athletic small and medium forwards. When you play a team like Brisbane who have the likes of Bailey, Cameron, Lohmann and even more it tears us apart.

They get so much more for significantly less effort. We need to put in two or three times the effort for the same result. A team like Brisbane needs to put in a half efforr. It's genuinely 50-75% effort to 200-300% effort required

 

[KnaveyBlue]

Motlop is a midfielder who can push forward. Whether he’s good enough to do that at AFL level is debatable, but that’s his go. He is not a small forward.

I'm amongst the many people that have been saying that for some time.

The problem is we already have a ton of slow midfielders, and they're all bigger, faster, and better at the inside role than he is.

 

[Blues2013]

Anyone else there notice the lack of atmosphere. Son wanted to stay till final siren as there is no bed time on school holidays … we got a seat on the train home.

That is a rarity as a blues supporter.

 

[GapInIkonPark]

effort looked much better than last week.

Lots of holes, lack speed, spread and class.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I said it in the game thread but I'll reiterate it here.

We do not have a half back line.

Every time the opposition gets the centre break the ball is guaranteed to be going deep

It exposes our extremely slow midfield. It exposes just how tall we're trying to play against any team with skilful athletic small and medium forwards. When you play a team like Brisbane who have the likes of Bailey, Cameron, Lohmann and even more it tears us apart.

They get so much more for significantly less effort. We need to put in two or three times the effort for the same result. A team like Brisbane needs to put in a half efforr. It's genuinely 50-75% effort to 200-300% effort required

We need to get young Charleson in. Has pace and scraps well for the ball. Rebounds beautifully as well. I'd play Carroll on a wing, where he can attack contests one one one.

 

[17in25]

We are uncompetitive.
Crowd subdued.
No real anger.
Resigned to our fate.
Sad.

 

[Accidental genius]

I don’t mind Carroll playing. He gives his best which is better than a few on the team.

Yes he made a couple of mistakes and looked unaware but hopefully he’ll learn to keep going straight out rather than rotating backwards where he can’t see who is coming.

Probably needs a bit of burst in his legs. Looks a tad slow.

And maybe could improve his kicking action as it looks too time consuming.

 

[you yang blues]

Apart from a couple of obvious blunders, thought that was Motlop’s best game playing higher up the ground. Was clean and drove through traffic. Worth persisting with more in pre-season.

Not sure about Motlop. In close fumbles. When tackled goes to ground. Never gets the ball out in those circumstances. Just maybe ok on the outside. Always needs more time to dispose of the ball or it goes straight to the opposition

 

[KnaveyBlue]

Zak lasted the game, that’s a positive.

He didn't actually, watch the last 2 mins again. Looked like a calf or hammy.

 

[Stamos]

Someone said he done a hamstring in game day thread

It looked like it, but then he didn’t go off so must have been cramp

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Anyone else there notice the lack of atmosphere. Son wanted to stay till final siren as there is no bed time on school holidays … we got a seat on the train home.

That is a rarity as a blues supporter.

What was the crowd figure?

 

[dangertroy]

We have a Charlie Curnow & TDK sized problem at the moment, one has completely forgotten how to kick a goal, the other simply doesn't want to try anymore.

One of those problems will fix itself at the end of the season, it’s the other one I’m worried about.

 

[Wickzki]

We need to get young Charleson in. Has pace and scraps well for the ball. Rebounds beautifully as well. I'd play Carroll on a wing, where he can attack contests one one one.

Would be a long term upgrade and perhaps even something better immediately than what we already have. Start fixing that and we'll see better results

Not wins right away but it'll come with other improvements

 

[Coona Blues]

Biggest positive for me is a simple one. We were able to run the game out, suggests we were not getting after it too much on the training track. Positive from the coaches. Wish they would get after skills and structures though.

 

[jackn]

We've had 17 quarters this year where we've kicked 0 or 1 goals.

Average of 1 quarter a match.

10 consecutive matches where it's occurred.

Summarises how insipid this club has become.

Back the youth in for the remainder of the year - there is literally nothing else to salvage at this point.
We wont win another game regardless.
We don't even have attendances to protect.
Set us up for some future success And solely focus on playing the kids.

Agree with the first half. Disagree with your major point though. Leave the kids in the ressies with luke power. Let them learn for the year with a coach that can teach them something more than defensive, contested yesteryear footy. This season is more of a write off than any we've had this century. Everyone has gone backwards bar a handful. Let's not drag more into the quicksand.

 

[jj1978]

What positives did you see?

Negatives are obvious cheap shots at this point.

Let’s see.
Charlie 4 games, 0 goals. TDK was awesome. Ollie stuck every tackle as did the rest of the team. We didn’t get easily shrugged off, and on our end would be embarrassing if a 105kg ruckman can’t shake of a 70kg opponent half his height, lucky that didn’t happen. Umpires were sensational.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Not sure about Motlop. In close fumbles. When tackled goes to ground. Never gets the ball out in those circumstances. Just maybe ok on the outside. Always needs more time to dispose of the ball or it goes straight to the opposition

Yep he’s not good enough for afl standard. Good 2s player

 

[BlueVision]

I'm overseas, so I didn't get to see the game, but am surprised about the repeated negativity.

I think we all should know by now the season is over & hopefully the club exposes more of the kids. Not sure the purpose of continually posting how bad the club is when it's common knowledge.

 

[jj1978]

He didn't actually, watch the last 2 mins again. Looked like a calf or hammy.

Serious… maybe he just cramped he usually has the last quarter off.

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

I think we should bring in Levi Casboult as a Goal Kicking coach.

Matthew Lloyd. The guy was a metronome and super savvy at forward craft.

 

[bringdoullback]

Class difference between the two teams pretty stark. Some of our senior players in mcgovin, fogarty, durdin need to be eased out.

Doc is fading. And tdk is playing out of position and while out of form looks really terrible as a forward.

Moir getting lost, young invisible. Might be time for them to return to vfl. Carroll made a ton of mistakes but at least he is getting his hands on the ball and should be persisted with so he develops.

Hof played better again tonight and I would like to see retained.

Cripps in the first half terrific and hewitt really good in the second. Cerra continues to be middle of the road and not developing.
Haynes and Cowan our best 4 qtr players.
Weitering seemed to disappear.

Motlop tries and still has improvement.

Tonight we played a fast brand of football. It came at the cost of defence, but im at peace with trialling it.

We lack confidence, and can player better, but those repeated missed set shots is deflating our morale and momentum.

 

[SolGoodman]

As the season nears it's end, I've found myself leaning more and more into Soapys way of thinking, keep the kids with Power, aim for finals in the VFL, start afresh next season.

The main team is currently where hope goes to die.

 

[ctwenty1]

Would feel better about the losses if we kicked straight

It’s an issues we’ve had for years and would ideally like to put that behind us….

Anyway, a lot to like ion respecting internet and the way we tried to use the ball , but a lot to dislike too - basic errors from senior players very frustrating

 

[luke livingston seagull]

at least we had Torpitto