List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread (Cont’d)

[joff]

It’s good for me!

Yea I didn't word that to well its great for us mob casually eating popcorn as we watch from the cheap seats

 

[swoop42]

Mitchell is going to be so pissed off tonight.

Makes it all worthwhile.

 

[Pistol Night]

Imagine being Merritt strolling back into Essendon next year that can't be good for anyone

Who knows. If they have a better injury run and perform better he might end up staying. I don’t think the Bombers are as bad as this year made out

 

[granniewolf]

Coxy’s opinion is still highly rated by our coach.
Fly apparently asked him if he thought Simpkin is worth 2 first rounders.
His response was yeah, nah.

Had to watch that 3 times

 

[Pendles!]

Yea I didn't word that to well its great for us mob casually eating popcorn as we watch from the cheap seats

It was clear what you meant, was just being a smartass.

 

[joff]

Who knows. If they have a better injury run and perform better he might end up staying. I don’t think the Bombers are as bad as this year made out

Yea not sure its going to be fascinating to watch as a neutral fan

 

[Monco Matt]

Well, we did SFA in this trade period. Has our list improved?

 

[Kappa]

What was the point of this off season? What was the objective? Either we’re all in for a flag and should’ve gone extremely hard on a Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

28

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

type, or we’re in a rebuild and we should’ve looked to improve our draft hand.

Losing Mihocek for a young fringe tall does not do anything except delay the rebuild by 12 months

 

[3rdMan]

The biggest takeaway of this trade period is that pick value has eroded further with the ability to trade two years ahead - 3 FR for Petracca and Curnow, 4 FR asked for Merrett, 2FR asked for Simpkin.

If you're wanting to trade for a star player in their prime next year better be armed with 3 (more likely 4) FR picks or be prepared to add players to the deal.

 

[BillyElliott]

Only deal that may hurt us is Curnow to swans imo.

Not if he delivers his usual finals performance, if they make finals.

 

[cfc19902010]

Had to watch that 3 times

What a donkey

 

[cfc19902010]

Not if he delivers his usual finals performance, if they make finals.

Swans will get even more frees than usual with curly tops

 

[Seedsfan]

So does Draper

People will disagree but he is still yet to prove to me he is capable of more than flashes of brilliance

 

[HFF]

Mackie and Mitchell both missing out their targets …

couldn’t have happened to two of the most smug blokes

 

[Vankri]

You always knew that being able to trade 2 years in advance was going to lead to the demands increasing from 2 to 3 1st round picks.

The deal for Beams of 5, 25 and Crisp looks like a steal in comparison.

If you want to get kids interested in monetary policy and economics you can use AFL draft picks as a textbook case of money supply increases being inflationary. As soon as you could trade one year ahead every A grader’s worth became about 2x first picks, now that you can do so two years ahead it will start at 3x firsts.

If the draft pick lovers needed anymore evidence that draft picks beyond the top 8 are overrated, then see what list managers are doing with them (and some like the suns even with the top end ones).

 

[Fruit]

Well done to our list crew who keep everything in house. No leaks. Makes me confident we are in good hands.

 

[Jekyll and Hyde]

The biggest takeaway of this trade period is that pick value has eroded further with the ability to trade two years ahead - 3 FR for Petracca and Curnow, 4 FR asked for Merrett, 2FR asked for Simpkin.

If you're wanting to trade for a star player in their prime next year better be armed with 3 (more likely 4) FR picks or be prepared to add players to the deal.

Mid season trade period could change things up too. If it’s implemented.

 

[Jonno94]

What was the point of this off season? What was the objective? Either we’re all in for a flag and should’ve gone extremely hard on a Clayton Oliver type, or we’re in a rebuild and we should’ve looked to improve our draft hand.

Losing Mihocek for a young fringe tall does not do anything except delay the rebuild by 12 months

Tank next year then trade for Humphey and sign some free agents, contest in 2027.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Jon ****ING Ralph still saying we were shopping De Goey around.

 

[BillyElliott]

What was the point of this off season? What was the objective? Either we’re all in for a flag and should’ve gone extremely hard on a Clayton Oliver type, or we’re in a rebuild and we should’ve looked to improve our draft hand.

Losing Mihocek for a young fringe tall does not do anything except delay the rebuild by 12 months

Oliver chose Giants. How hard do you want to go? Particularly if he'd prefer the anonymity at the Giants.

Replacing a 33 year old who left for more $ with a 24 year old wanting more opportunities? How can that be a negative?

 

[Antz]

Jon ****ING Ralph still saying we were shopping De Goey around.

He is such a d*ckhead. I can't stand him and Morris.

 

[3rdMan]

You always knew that being able to trade 2 years in advance was going to lead to the demands increasing from 2 to 3 1st round picks.

The deal for Beams of 5, 25 and Crisp looks like a steal in comparison.

Our deal for Houston last year is a steal for sure. We're lucky the rule hadn't yet changed or we definitely would have given up more.

 

[Piesinmyeyes]

Carlton will have two cracks at first round talent from now until 2027, so hope they stuff up.

Edit: so some may go towards bid matching,but still .

They’ve got a good track record..

 

[Seedsfan]

If you want to get kids interested in monetary policy and economics you can use AFL draft picks as a textbook case of money supply increases being inflationary. As soon as you could trade one year ahead every A grader’s worth became about 2x first picks, now that you can do so two years ahead it will start at 3x firsts.

If the draft pick lovers needed anymore evidence that draft picks beyond the top 8 are overrated, then see what list managers are doing with them (and some like the suns even with the top end ones).

It still doesn’t change the value of the pick. But there is a feeling the standard of player in the draft isn’t as strong as in the past

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

All the player movements.

Adelaide

• Finnbar Maley (NM -> Trade)

Brisbane Lions

• Sam Draper (ESS -> FA)
• Oscar Allen (WC -> FA)

Carlton

• Liam Reidy (FREO -> Trade)
• Campbell Chesser (WC -> Trade)
• Ben Ainsworth (GC -> Trade)
• Oliver Florent (SYD -> Trade)
• Will Hayward (SYD -> Trade)

Collingwood

• Jack Buller (SYD -> Trade)

Essendon

• Brayden Fiorini (GC -> Trade)

Fremantle

• Judd McVee (MELB -> Trade)

Geelong

• James Worpel (HAW -> FA)

Gold Coast

• Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (WB -> Trade)
• Christian Petracca (MELB -> Trade)

GWS

• Clayton Oliver (MELB -> Trade)

Hawthorn

Melbourne

• Max Heath (STK -> Trade)
• Brody Mihocek (COLL -> Trade)
• Changkuoth Jiath (HAW -> Trade)
• Jack Steele (STK -> Trade)

North Melbourne

• Charlie Spargo (MELB -> FA)

Port Adelaide

• Jacob Wehr (GWS -> FA)
• Corey Durdin (CARL -> Trade)
• Will Brodie (FREO -> Trade)

Richmond

• Patrick Retschko (GEEL -> Trade)

St Kilda

• Jack Silvagni (CARL -> FA)
• Tom De Koning (CARL -> FA)
• Sam Flanders (GC -> Trade)
• Liam Ryan (WC -> Trade)

Sydney

• Malcolm Rosas Jr. (GC -> Trade)
• Jai Serong (HAW -> Trade)
• Charlie Curnow (CARL -> Trade)

West Coast

• Brandon Starcevich (BRIS -> Trade)
• Tylar Young (RICH -> Trade)

Western Bulldogs

• Connor Budarick (GC -> Trade)