List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[Pistol Night]

Cal Twomey reporting on Gettable today that Brisbane could be interested again in nabbing Elliott.

Sure. Send us the Ashcrofts then ya flogs

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Elliott would be an unrestricted free agent, I assume.

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[Go Woods]

I'd be very surprised if Jamie chose to leave now.

Going nowhere, B&W through and through.

 

[Apex36]

Cal Twomey reporting on Gettable today that Brisbane could be interested again in nabbing Elliott.

They missed the boat, he’s not going anywhere.

 

[Bogsey]

How many of these old brigade are we expecting to not to get a contract at years end?

Sidey has to go around again. Crisp has been very solid. Jamie is in career best form. Can't see Checkers going anywhere. Pendles been ok, and the Pies will want him breaking the games record.

Who does that leave over 30YO? WHE? Howe? Cox? Titch? Membrey? [PLAYERCARD]Darcy Cameron[/PLAYERCARD]? McStay? I don't see a lot of them going really...

 

[Jen2310]

How many of these old brigade are we expecting to not to get a contract at years end?

Sidey has to go around again. Crisp has been very solid. Jamie is in career best form. Can't see Checkers going anywhere. Pendles been ok, and the Pies will want him breaking the games record.

Who does that leave over 30YO? WHE? Howe? Cox? Titch? Membrey? Darcy Cameron? McStay? I don't see a lot of them going really...

Obvious ones seem WHE, Cox, Mitchell
The others it'll be their decision.

 

[Bogsey]

Obvious ones seem WHE, Cox, Mitchell
The others it'll be their decision.

I think you might be right.
But I have a feeling there's going to be some hard calls at the end of the year.

 

[Pistol Night]

I think you might be right.
But I have a feeling there's going to be some hard calls at the end of the year.

I think a flag will make some minds up potentially but also cloud them potentially.

 

[manicpie]

I think you might be right.
But I have a feeling there's going to be some hard calls at the end of the year.

I think Pendles, Sidey and Howe are safe for another year. Really not sure about anyone else

 

[sr36]

Obvious ones seem WHE, Cox, Mitchell
The others it'll be their decision.

I think so too (unless Titch comes on strong in the back half of the year)

Then you've got AJ and Finn

Tough decisions on the other uncontracted guys which will depend on how many we want to add or if anyone walks: Markov, Sullivan, Smit, Dean, Steene - the last two are playing well, but the projections on their future due to body size for role would be my doubt.

 

[Run n Spread]

How many of these old brigade are we expecting to not to get a contract at years end?

Sidey has to go around again. Crisp has been very solid. Jamie is in career best form. Can't see Checkers going anywhere. Pendles been ok, and the Pies will want him breaking the games record.

Who does that leave over 30YO? WHE? Howe? Cox? Titch? Membrey? Darcy Cameron? McStay? I don't see a lot of them going really...

Mitchell = No
Cox = No
WHE = borderline lean to no
Elliot = yes
Howe = depends on how he holds up. Lean to yes
Pendles = yes
Side b= yes
Crisp= already contracted I think but yes
Miochek = body dependent . 50 50. Lean to yes.
You'd probably look to transition 3 a year out over 3.
Plus guys like Cameron membrey etc getting on. But contracted

 

[Humblebob]

Mitchell = No
Cox = No
WHE = borderline lean to no
Elliot = yes
Howe = depends on how he holds up. Lean to yes
Pendles = yes
Side b= yes
Crisp= already contracted I think but yes
Miochek = body dependent . 50 50. Lean to yes.
You'd probably look to transition 3 a year out over 3.
Plus guys like Cameron membrey etc getting on. But contracted

There's obviously variables to this based on what happens this year in finals, which we are certain to be playing.

Some may lose hunger to go again, some may want to go out on top (fingers crossed!), injuries in the back half etc.. really hard to make a definitive call on this until after the year has ended or the players call it themselves, as despite my opinion that we are in no way in trouble regarding list profile, talent and age, like you said it is still very important the club manages the inevitable outgoings of our veterans.

If the coaching staff and the players are able to manage it right, i think we're still in great shape to be at or near the top of the tree going forward.

God thank Peters super sperm, the mans a saint.

 

[Scodog10]

Here’s a hypothetical: With our reported interest in Rowell, his delayed re-signing with GC and the emergence of Ned Long. Is he now superfluous to needs?

E.g. For a future midfield mix do we want two inside extractors in him and long to play alongside Daicos for the next 10 years? Or are we better off targeting an inside/out midfielder ala Reid for that 3rd piece of the long term puzzle?

Given the trade collateral it would take I’m erring towards no myself due in no small part to Long’s development. To start the year I was all in on Rowell to fill that role, but now I’d err toward Butters if we had a play on either.

 

[DopeMaster]

Given the trade collateral it would take I’m erring towards no myself due in no small part to Long’s development. To start the year I was all in on Rowell to fill that role, but now I’d err toward Butters if we had a play on either.

I’m in the same boat. Whilst Rowell has added other strings to his bow, his one-wood is still his inside work, which given Longs emergence isn’t the best compliment to our long term midfield mix.

I make mention of Reid due to WC’s reported interest in a few of our players, we may find ourselves in another Houston situation. Plus I’m bullish on him going on to be a top 5 player and think his game style would compliment Daics and Long.

Butters would be excellent and a sure thing. Just hard to see how we get the required trade collateral to land him.

 

[Scodog10]

I’m in the same boat. Whilst Rowell has added other strings to his bow, his one-wood is still his inside work, which given Longs emergence isn’t the best compliment to our long term midfield mix.

I make mention of Reid due to WC’s reported interest in a few of our players, we may find ourselves in another Houston situation. Plus I’m bullish on him going on to be a top 5 player and think his game style would compliment Daics and Long.

Butters would be excellent and a sure thing. Just hard to see how we get the required trade collateral to land him.

Trade collateral is going to be the big ? regardless is my guess without a Cameron or JDG asking out. I’m most interested to see what shakes out with JDG once he returns because if Long can sustain his current form I don’t think we improve the balance by adding JDG as a midfield piece. He’s definitely there when fit, but I’m curious about the role if all else remains the same.

I’m personally not a fan of Reid for Collingwood. For it to happen Cameron has to go and we need to blow up our pay structure which makes me feel sick to my stomach given it’s all based on what he could be which is a loooooong way away. That’s a Richmond move, IMO. They’ll have two top 5 picks this draft and **** knows how they’ll spend their 95% with their current list.

 

[nickyds35]

Starting to get concerned Harley Reid will will be more of a [PLAYERCARD]Jake Stringer[/PLAYERCARD] then Dustin Martin. Hasn't really put a high-level game together once this year.

In my eyes, [PLAYERCARD]Zak Butters[/PLAYERCARD] is the perfect balance of an inside/outside mid.

 

[TradeDraft]

I think so too (unless Titch comes on strong in the back half of the year)

Then you've got AJ and Finn

Tough decisions on the other uncontracted guys which will depend on how many we want to add or if anyone walks: Markov, Sullivan, Smit, Dean, Steene - the last two are playing well, but the projections on their future due to body size for role would be my doubt.

Steene won’t be De-Listed

 

[stormskye]

Steene won’t be De-Listed

Hes a bit in between TD. Not a good enough forward or ruck. Can take a grab, but he needs more string to his bow than that. He’s getting well beaten in the ruck. Size is an issue. Might rookie for 1 more season given our lack of depth there.

 

[VinnieB]

Mitchell = No
Cox = No
WHE = borderline lean to no
Elliot = yes
Howe = depends on how he holds up. Lean to yes
Pendles = yes
Side b= yes
Crisp= already contracted I think but yes
Miochek = body dependent . 50 50. Lean to yes.
You'd probably look to transition 3 a year out over 3.
Plus guys like Cameron membrey etc getting on. But contracted

Cameron is 29, will be 30 later in the season. He probably has another 3 years in him.

 

[MagpieExcalibur]

How many of these old brigade are we expecting to not to get a contract at years end?

Sidey has to go around again. Crisp has been very solid. Jamie is in career best form. Can't see Checkers going anywhere. Pendles been ok, and the Pies will want him breaking the games record.

Who does that leave over 30YO? WHE? Howe? Cox? Titch? Membrey? Darcy Cameron? McStay? I don't see a lot of them going really...

Crisp , Membrey , Cameron and McStay already contracted for 2026 i can see WHE going if he keeps up this form hasn't looked like his old self for a while now , Coxy is gone too though hope we keep him around in some capacity , Titch is gone unless we want him as depth just doesn't have a spot anymore

 

[MagpieExcalibur]

Steele , Checkers and Jamie the only locks to going around again in 2026 barring catastophe others who aren't contracted are wait and see especially considering Howie's age (35 at the tail end of the month) and injury history this could be his last year

 

[DopeMaster]

Trade collateral is going to be the big ? regardless is my guess without a Cameron or JDG asking out. I’m most interested to see what shakes out with JDG once he returns because if Long can sustain his current form I don’t think we improve the balance by adding JDG as a midfield piece. He’s definitely there when fit, but I’m curious about the role if all else remains the same.

I’m personally not a fan of Reid for Collingwood. For it to happen Cameron has to go and we need to blow up our pay structure which makes me feel sick to my stomach given it’s all based on what he could be which is a loooooong way away. That’s a Richmond move, IMO. They’ll have two top 5 picks this draft and **** knows how they’ll spend their 95% with their current list.

Yeah that’s fair enough, wouldn’t be comfortable with the acquisition if we were throwing outlandish money at him. He’d have to accept his current worth until he actually earns the big bucks. Just depends on if he’s chasing the huge contract right now, or prefers to play for the biggest team on the biggest stage and back himself in to earn it.

Only way I see it happening is if both WC targeted players, Cameron and Allan opt to move there, which feels unlikely. If we were to let Cameron go in this hypothetical we would want to have ROB lined up as an unrestricted free agent in advance.

JDG is a wildcard but can’t see him wanting out while contracted either.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Crisp , Membrey , Cameron and McStay already contracted for 2026 i can see WHE going if he keeps up this form hasn't looked like his old self for a while now , Coxy is gone too though hope we keep him around in some capacity , Titch is gone unless we want him as depth just doesn't have a spot anymore

OMG How ridiculous. Titch and WHE Gone.
Please stop. My eyes are bleached reading your posts.

 

[Scodog10]

Yeah that’s fair enough, wouldn’t be comfortable with the acquisition if we were throwing outlandish money at him. He’d have to accept his current worth until he actually earns the big bucks. Just depends on if he’s chasing the huge contract right now, or prefers to play for the biggest team on the biggest stage and back himself in to earn it.

Only way I see it happening is if both WC targeted players, Cameron and Allan opt to move there, which feels unlikely. If we were to let Cameron go in this hypothetical we would want to have ROB lined up as an unrestricted free agent in advance.

JDG is a wildcard but can’t see him wanting out while contracted either.

What’s your take on his worth? I’d have him ranked in the 250-350 bracket league wide which has him in the best 23 of every club, but I don’t think he’s a top 10 player at any club. That has him smack bang in the middle on about $600k in the short term. The thing is you need to offer double that for his management to pick up the phone…

I’d probably err toward a Reidy or Soldo type anyway with Cox gone at season’s end so if the Cameron stuff is true I’d be holding him unless we can secure CDT in the process (I doubt ROB leaves). I’m not holding my breath just yet on Allan having anything more than draft points value at this stage. Like Reid you’d be acquiring on potential and his potential is still up in the air, IMO.

Agreed on JGD. He’s only in the frame if he wants out because I doubt he has value anymore after effectively losing two seasons to injury. I’d rather persist to get his body right and see what the next stage is for him.