List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[tazaa]

I have zoned out of this thread whilst on holidays but this has really brought the
NORTH vibes back

“Eddie Sansbury is the cousin of former Sydney player Michael O'Loughlin and Kangaroos teammate Daniel Wells. He is the biological father of current St Kildaplayer Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera.“

 

[The Talent Scout]

Just reading the top 40 draft prospects in the sun today . Cooper Duff-Tytler at no 4 200cm ruck/forward has had plenty of wow moments on the field this year as he has done things most players his size simply can’t do .
Sounds like the exact player we need but unfortunately our brain dead list manager /recruiting staff thought it was a good idea to trade our pick to the tiges fecking hell

Hey chickenonachain, yes Cooper has a lot of potential there's no doubt about that but did you not think that we might have someone on our list that might be better and that we don't need him, I have as I've stated a few times a big opinion of Will and you know these guys spend countless hours/days/weeks and so on covering every aspect in a young players life not just his football, a recruiters life is very hard work and remember these guys are professionals, they leave no stone unturned into finding the right player for the North Melbourne football club.

As mentioned many times this draft class is not as strong as previous drafts and our very early second round picks might just be in the sweet spot. We do however have options if we want to use them, we have two years of picks we can trade into the first round if we get a suitor and unlike last year I don't think that will be a problem or we don't rate the first round and we have zeroed in to two or three players outside the first round we'll have no problem in getting them, the trade period & free agency might tell us a bit more just before the national draft.

To much is being made out of not having pick 2 or 3, maybe its not the world is ending experience that people are thinking it is, we got our draft targets, that is all that matters, now lets see who we bring in in the trade period and then lets see what actual picks we have in the draft and how many, my tip for quite a while is three but will we improve those picks or will we be happy to settle where we are?

 

[tazaa]

Just on Ford, he suited up for a game of local cricket with his mates during the January break. Few “frotthies” were had.

Not sure if the club sanctioned this or not, or if it was harmless - but the fact he has been frozen out of the 22 and had injury/form issues as a result - can take a stab and say it wasn’t well received by the club.
Papers stamped.

 

[Magnets]

Sam Frost

8

Sam Frost

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

191.6

3star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

191.6

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

4star

is one we need for a couple of years to stabilise our back 6

 

[Themanbun]

I have zoned out of this thread whilst on holidays but this has really brought the
NORTH vibes back

“Eddie Sansbury is the cousin of former Sydney player Michael O'Loughlin and Kangaroos teammate Daniel Wells. He is the biological father of current St Kildaplayer Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera.“

Jed will be the one that comes back to bite us I reckon.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Just on Ford, he suited up for a game of local cricket with his mates during the January break. Few “frotthies” were had.

Not sure if the club sanctioned this or not, or if it was harmless - but the fact he has been frozen out of the 22 and had injury/form issues as a result - can take a stab and say it wasn’t well received by the club.
Papers stamped.

He is going to kick 100 for fun at Yarraville Seddon when he goes back there.

 

[Joshen]

Sam Frost is one we need for a couple of years to stabilise our back 6

Absolutely not. We have a surplus of KPDs and Frost is a horrific user. There is a reason he has played at three clubs.

 

[hilly]

Hey chickenonachain, yes Cooper has a lot of potential there's no doubt about that but did you not think that we might have someone on our list that might be better and that we don't need him, I have as I've stated a few times a big opinion of Will and you know these guys spend countless hours/days/weeks and so on covering every aspect in a young players life not just his football, a recruiters life is very hard work and remember these guys are professionals, they leave no stone unturned into finding the right player for the North Melbourne football club.

As mentioned many times this draft class is not as strong as previous drafts and our very early second round picks might just be in the sweet spot. We do however have options if we want to use them, we have two years of picks we can trade into the first round if we get a suitor and unlike last year I don't think that will be a problem or we don't rate the first round and we have zeroed in to two or three players outside the first round we'll have no problem in getting them, the trade period & free agency might tell us a bit more just before the national draft.

To much is being made out of not having pick 2 or 3, maybe its not the world is ending experience that people are thinking it is, we got our draft targets, that is all that matters, now lets see who we bring in in the trade period and then lets see what actual picks we have in the draft and how many, my tip for quite a while is three but will we improve those picks or will we be happy to settle where we are?

No one could accuse you of being negative TTS.

 

[King Corey]

Just on Ford, he suited up for a game of local cricket with his mates during the January break. Few “frotthies” were had.

Not sure if the club sanctioned this or not, or if it was harmless - but the fact he has been frozen out of the 22 and had injury/form issues as a result - can take a stab and say it wasn’t well received by the club.
Papers stamped.

I mean regardless, is paid players just off ****ing about without active engagement how a professional club runs?

Atu, Wilkinson, Stephenson, we're like Jobseeker for these blokes while our coaches and the players themselves work out what they'd like to do one day.

 

[HugeJohnson1]

Most of those players have come cheap or free, so I don't expect 100% success rate, but even one in five is better than we can manage. They don't have to be guns, they just have to be capable of playing a role and improving the team or be handy back-up.

Compare us to the Hawks over the last few years. Whilst they have attracted some bigger fish recently, none of Meek, D'Ambrosio, Chol, Ginnevan, or Amon, have cost much at all. All were brought in for specific roles and have added more to the Hawks than any of our retreads have. That isn't about ability to attract talent, it is about ability to identify fringe players at other teams that you can use. Most of the calls we have made are just inept.

They definitely came cheap or even free - but look at Hawks recent W/L compared to North Melbourne.

Hawks -

Totals (2015–2024)

• Total Wins: 100
• Total Losses: 104
• Total Draws: 3

North -
Decade Totals (2015–2024)

• Total Wins: 58
• Total Losses: 138

It’s easy to offer a player a lifeline when they don’t have interest from other clubs (North)… We simply get the scraps from every team in the trade/FA period.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

As bad as we've been at trading the last 20 years, we can't stay in a state of perpetual rebuild,
Fans don't have the patience to keep rebuilding through the draft and we're just throwing young kids to the wolves.
There needs to be a balance of mid 20 year old players and 2-3 draftees, otherwise the list will skew far too young.
The compromised drafts and our own FS/NGA needs will complicate things as well going forward, so the draft is probably not going to be the sole thing that's going to get us where we want to go.
I'm terrified about who we might bring in as well, but we're going to have some hits and misses.
For every Melksham/Lever/May/Langdon that Demons hit on, they had some misses with Bugg/Tyson/Balic etc.
We've had more misses, so it's hard to have much confidence in us drafting/recruiting at anything close to a 50% hit rate.

The problem is, most quality players that would improve us are also being chased by other clubs and don't actually want to come to us.

The ones that do come to us are either propping up their superannuation fund or they're not that good and one of our youngsters have overtaken them within 12 months which leads to list clogging. Fisher and perhaps now Daniel are examples of this. We end up stuck with these guys for several years and are then forced to delist younger players who could still have improvement in them.

We just need to be more critical in our assessment of which players we try to bring to the club and make better decisions. If it means that we don't trade for anyone, then so be it.

 

[Themanbun]

I mean regardless, is paid players just off ****ing about without active engagement how a professional club runs?

Atu, Wilkinson, Stephenson, we're like Jobseeker for these blokes while our coaches and the players themselves work out what they'd like to do one day.

It's insane how they can just check out of their ~5-10x average salary job and still get paid. Just does not compute.

 

[Chip Scab1]

I mean regardless, is paid players just off ****ing about without active engagement how a professional club runs?

Atu, Wilkinson, Stephenson, we're like Jobseeker for these blokes while our coaches and the players themselves work out what they'd like to do one day.

Perfect analogy.

You can add Tucker and Logue (clearly a plan was created when playing together at Freo to rort us).

Obtaining Property by Deception is the official name in any other walk of life. Fortunate lads.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Perfect analogy.

You can add Tucker and Logue (clearly a plan was created when playing together at Freo to rort us).

Obtaining Property by Deception is the official name in any other walk of life. Fortunate lads.

Not that I disagree with Tucker and Logue rorting the club (and Fisher), but have you ever hated your job so much that you stretch the lunch break into a lunch hour and a half? Or maybe taken a bit longer to return a task because you just don't care? These blokes see this as a job they hate, the difference is there aren't paid up members barracking for KPMG or Chongus Administrative Services Pty Ltd.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Not that I disagree with Tucker and Logue rorting the club (and Fisher), but have you ever hated your job so much that you stretch the lunch break into a lunch hour and a half? Or maybe taken a bit longer to return a task because you just don't care? These blokes see this as a job they hate, the difference is there aren't paid up members barracking for KPMG or Chongus Administrative Services Pty Ltd.

I do know what it's like to take the piss at work tbh, and I agree. Being on ~$700k and running around for Norf (sans expectations) must be an absolute hoot.

 

[kanga kanga kanga]

Sam Frost is one we need for a couple of years to stabilise our back 6

if he was delisted and we got him as depth i wouldn’t mind that as his better then log but he shouldn’t walk straight into the first team and he shouldn’t get a game over pink, comben, whitlock, w dawson.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Sam Frost is one we need for a couple of years to stabilise our back 6

 

[Passmore]

Sam Frost is one we need for a couple of years to stabilise our back 6

Would never have expected to see "Sam Frost " and "stabilise " in the same sentence.

 

[New_Roo]

No one could accuse you of being negative TTS.

its a nice change tbh

 

[FlyHigh18]

Nothing to base this on but I think we’ll keep the rookie spots. The gap between top and bottom is growing. Giving bad clubs a couple of extra rookie spots wouldn’t be a bad permanent equalisation measure.

but i thought the game was as even as ever!? that's what we were being told right?

meanwhile... massive gap between top and bottom teams, H&A season basically ended for most teams a month ago, huge number of blow out games, top teams getting the number 1 picks.... wow... it's all so even!!

 

[kangaroos3]

Maybe if Brady drafted Nathan Philactides to add to Matt Whitlock and Daniel you'd be able to sleep at night Nostra.

Imagine Philactides and Tstatas running around for us winning games…. in the twos

 

[The Nostradamus]

Imagine Philactides and Tstatas running around for us winning games…. in the twos

not sure who you are and can't say i have ever noticed you but 3 of your last 4 posts about me over the last few months
its giving obsessed

 

[perplexed]

They definitely came cheap or even free - but look at Hawks recent W/L compared to North Melbourne.

Hawks -

Totals (2015–2024)

• Total Wins: 100
• Total Losses: 104
• Total Draws: 3

North -
Decade Totals (2015–2024)

• Total Wins: 58
• Total Losses: 138

It’s easy to offer a player a lifeline when they don’t have interest from other clubs (North)… We simply get the scraps from every team in the trade/FA period.

Yeah but none of those Hawthorn guys were being fought over and most came when they were down the bottom of the ladder like us.

The major difference is they had a clear list management strategy and drafted each player to fill a specific role. They wanted to build a gameplan around running and kicking so they recruited players who could have a role within it. We seem to have little or no strategy at all. One year we seem to suddenly discover that we don't have many talls, so we load up on tall DFA types. The next year it's small forwards. There is no clear direction or list management strategy connected to a game style, we are just collecting random players to plug holes. The football department is a complete mess.

 

[pupstar]

Can’t wrap my head around Houston’s drop off. Prior to this year he was one of the consistently damaging half backs in the comp.

Just goes to show that certain players are suited to certain game plans or playing styles.

Similar to Gunston not firing a shot at Brisbane.

`Yep these two players are the perfect example that its not just a NMFC thing It can and does happen at all clubs that some players just don't perform as well at their new club after being quite good beforehand.

 

[pupstar]

Hey chickenonachain, yes Cooper has a lot of potential there's no doubt about that but did you not think that we might have someone on our list that might be better and that we don't need him, I have as I've stated a few times a big opinion of Will and you know these guys spend countless hours/days/weeks and so on covering every aspect in a young players life not just his football, a recruiters life is very hard work and remember these guys are professionals, they leave no stone unturned into finding the right player for the North Melbourne football club.

As mentioned many times this draft class is not as strong as previous drafts and our very early second round picks might just be in the sweet spot. We do however have options if we want to use them, we have two years of picks we can trade into the first round if we get a suitor and unlike last year I don't think that will be a problem or we don't rate the first round and we have zeroed in to two or three players outside the first round we'll have no problem in getting them, the trade period & free agency might tell us a bit more just before the national draft.

To much is being made out of not having pick 2 or 3, maybe its not the world is ending experience that people are thinking it is, we got our draft targets, that is all that matters, now lets see who we bring in in the trade period and then lets see what actual picks we have in the draft and how many, my tip for quite a while is three but will we improve those picks or will we be happy to settle where we are?

Could not have written it better myself. You can be almost guaranteed that the people that are moaning about not having pick 2-3 or what ever it ends up being would have wanting to split it anyway and then winging that we didn't. We got what we wanted last year let's just see how it turns out before we criticize the decision.