List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[Its a Process]

RE: Tsatas - I was never a fan of him even in his draft year and had him outside the top 10 for most of that year before he snuck in towards the end.

Nothing has changed since he was drafted; he can't kick, isn't physical enough to play pure mid, doesn't run defensively and doesn't have a tank full stop.

His lack of tank is very concerning for an outside player especially.

Unless he works his ass off to improve his tank a ton and basically reinvents himself into a run and carry metres gained-type winger, I can't see what his role is at AFL level.

He can't kick, which rules out defense (or anywhere for that matter)
He doesn't have a tank, which rules out basically any outside role on the wing or half forward.
He doesn't work defensively, which again rules out defense and midfield.
He isn't physical, which again makes it difficult to give him time on the ball.
He struggles to compose himself at stoppage, and often throws out a handball or dump kicks forward.

If he can't make massive improvement in one or more or those areas, he's not making it anywhere.

In saying all that, I wouldn't be against taking a punt on him to see if he can turn it around in a different environment.

What were his underage strengths? It was a pretty hot draft so even to push top 10 he must have done something well?

Would he be any chance to become a contested/defensive inside mid?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Surely we get an answer on windhager soon also

 

[Supa_Nova]

I don't mind tsatas even if it's to appease wardlaw to be honest.

Maybe playing with his mates he grows? Becomes what bailey Scott

8

Bailey Scott

Age

25

Ht

186cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.9

3star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.8

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

CL

0.6

3star

was a few years ago?

 

[BlueanWhiteKanga]

For anyone wondering - and not that it matters now - but Tsatas was selected at 5 in the 2022 draft, behind Aaron Cadman, Will Ashcroft (through F/S), and out own Sheezel and Wardlaw.

Notable names afterwards include; Bailey Humphrey, Cameron Mackenzie, Jhye Clark, Reuben Ginbey, Mattaes Phillipou, Oliver Hollands, Jaspa Fletcher (through F/S), Elijah Hewtt, Matthew Jefferson, Harry Rowston, Max Michalanney, Josh Weddle as well as our very own Jacob Konstanty and Cooper Harvey.

Good year for rookie elevations too that year with Butts, Owies, Ginnivan, Noble, Durham, Schultz, Atkins among them.

 

[BlueanWhiteKanga]

Surely we get an answer on windhager soon also

Bloody hope so.
I thought he was a lock in at Saints when they extended their offer, but the more it's drawing out, the more I'm thinking that we may have a chance.

 

[Tiberius]

Yes its VFL but those tackle numbers aren't awful.

View attachment 2415002

Pretty sure WilPhil's are better.

 

[Shinboner1]

Decent effort accumulating 30+ disposals every week without a tank.

Should we be expecting 50+ touches a game once he gets one?

which game this year did he get 30+?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Surely we get an answer on windhager soon also

The Dogs, Eagles and Demons are in the frame for him now, the Saints just need to up the dollars.

 

[Makeshift Park]

which game this year did he get 30+? View attachment 2415063

I was talking about VFL.

 

[kool kangas]

Would rather Davies over tsatas 100%

Would rather keep WilPhil if that was the case...

 

[giantroo]

 

[desie]

I absolutely love this new strategic direction from the football department.

Target high end draft picks who have failed at other clubs and back in our elite development program to turn them around.

Cutting edge thinking which just might work.

 

[BrownPaperBag]

Has there been any suggestion Alex Davies still wants out now that's he's playing seniors?

Thought the speculation was only there when he wasn't getting any game time.

Not sure apparently we had enquired I think I read that here

 

[speedy]

I absolutely love this new strategic direction from the football department.

Target high end draft picks who have failed at other clubs and back in our elite development program to turn them around.

Cutting edge thinking which just might work.

It will only cost a 4th rounder. I’m sure Brady won’t get sucked into giving up a 2nd or 3rd rounder and a 4 year contract to get anther teams fringe player over the line.

 

[speedy]

Surely we get an answer on windhager soon also

I’m on the edge of my seat for his decision too.

 

[Makeshift Park]

So in sum, Twomey says:

• we're not in the picture for Starcevich anymore
• we're still keen on Spargo, who has an offer from the Dees on the table, but he isn't signing it
• we're still keen on Windhager, and he implied that we're offering the most $, but Dogs, Ess and Demons also keen (Cal says if Saints get money to the level we're offering he'll stay)
• we've had interest in Connor Budarick
  35

  Connor Budarick

  Age

  24

  Ht

  175cm

  Wt

  75kg

  Pos.

  D/M

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  10.6

  3star

  K

  6.8

  3star

  HB

  3.9

  3star

  M

  2.9

  3star

  T

  1.5

  3star

  MG

  171.3

  3star

  D

  10.6

  3star

  K

  6.8

  3star

  HB

  3.9

  3star

  M

  2.9

  3star

  T

  1.5

  2star

  MG

  171.3

  3star

  D

  10.6

  3star

  K

  6.8

  3star

  HB

  3.8

  3star

  M

  2.6

  3star

  T

  2.0

  4star

  MG

  153.0

  3star

  , but there are quite a few others too

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I absolutely love this new strategic direction from the football department.

Target high end draft picks who have failed at other clubs and back in our elite development program to turn them around.

Cutting edge thinking which just might work.

Aidan Bonar
Jaidyn Stephenson
Dom Tyson
Jarrad Polec
Paul Ahern

It's a tried and tested method that has led us to glory over the years.....

 

[Tiberius]

Aidan Bonar
Jaidyn Stephenson
Dom Tyson
Jarrad Polec
Paul Ahern

It's a tried and tested method that has led us to glory over the years.....

I suspect all of these were just the recruiting department desperately trying to recreate the lightning in a bottle that was the Jordan Gysberts coup.

 

[Flawed Genius]

**** it I'll take Tsatas if it makes George happy. I only want George to be happy.

 

[Flawed Genius]

I absolutely love the graphic weaponry imagery that accomapnies trade updates. Mega bomb, huge info nuke etc.

There's a dystopian thought exercise about how Cal Twomey would have announced Hiroshima and Nagasaki if he were a newsreader then

 

[desie]

Aidan Bonar
Jaidyn Stephenson
Dom Tyson
Jarrad Polec
Paul Ahern

It's a tried and tested method that has led us to glory over the years.....

I reckon the next stage of this new strategy is to target guys in the draft who we think have elite talent but have been injured and have therefore slid down the board.

Hopefully they’ve considered this as well.

As Big Kev used to say, “I’m excited!”

 

[giantroo]

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Like Patrick Voss?

Bang!

I absolutely love this new strategic direction from the football department.

Target high end draft picks who have failed at other clubs and back in our elite development program to turn them around.

Cutting edge thinking which just might work.

I need to eat my words on Stephens, I think it’s worked with him, but yes, a few misses.

 

[My Left Foote]

I reckon the next stage of this new strategy is to target guys in the draft who we think have elite talent but have been injured and have therefore slid down the board.

Hopefully they’ve considered this as well.

As Big Kev used to say, “I’m excited!”

Flynn Perez & Brayden George say hi.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

We are scraping the bottom of the barrel if the best we can do is Spargo and Tsatas...I'd rather just keep Phillips.