List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

17

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[Passmore]

Lever has runs on the board, Logue didn’t.

I agree with bleeding games into Dawson and Whitlock but you can’t throw them to the wolves. Which one of those two is going to nullify Jesse Hogan or Jeremy Cameron?

Neither. Nor would Jake Lever.

It wouldn't be an issue getting him if we shoot Logue, Corr, and Daniel off into the sun and Lever played alongside Dawson and Comben and marshalled the defence. But I can't see that happening.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Lever has runs on the board, Logue didn’t.

I agree with bleeding games into Dawson and Whitlock but you can’t throw them to the wolves. Which one of those two is going to nullify Jesse Hogan or Jeremy Cameron?

Pink and Comben are going to have to take those responsibilities in the meantime. I know it's not ideal but Lever is not the type of guy to be playing on them either. May would normally look after them or McDonald when May is not available.

 

[shinboner spiggs]

The ageing senior pro tactic has run its race at North. We need to double down on youth and take our medicine. Would have been fantastic if we could have offed some of our senior core for additional young players but the brainless folk in our FD signed them for life. Has added years on our sentence.

Have to wait for our young players to undo the wrongs of their predecessors.

 

[My Left Foote]

The fact that we're even discussing the pros and cons of trading for Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

shows exactly how f*cked our list management is, what a complete and utter shitshow.

 

[Roo202]

I think its about time that the AFL puts in place a clause that states that" Any player (except for those who are a FA) who wishes for a trade to another club can only go to a club that is sitting 14th or below"..This is the only way l see of helping the lower clubs improve.

I think at the least they could at least look into introducing a ratioed tax on recruits (incl. free agents) not necessarily on current ladder position, but a rolling 3-5 year ranking.

Either the higher a team ranks, the wage plus an increasingly higher percentage on top is taken from their salary cap or the lower the team ranks a progressively smaller proportion of the wage is counted on the salary cap.

For example, say Geelong want to pay $1,000,000 a season for their latest Cotton On recruit, maybe they get a 20% tax and it uses up $1,200,000 of their salary cap.

Or if we recruited someone for $1,000,000 a season we get a 15% tax break and only $850,000 counts on our salary cap.

My example probably proves why it would make no difference, Geelong would still operate outside the salary cap and even with more money to spend, we would still struggle to convince worthwhile recruits to come to us! But, done correctly, it would at least give some hope to equalisation.

 

[My Left Foote]

In 2016 we delisted Boomer, Spud, Drew, Nicky Dal (and Wellsy went to the Pies) because they were deemed surplus to requirements due to their age. Almost 10 years later we've traded in veterans Parker, Darling & Daniel and are rumoured to be looking at Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

. The circle of incompetency is complete, a wasted decade of list mismanagement, what a pathetic football club.

 

[Epictetus]

What about - and hear me out - we stop asking for ways and for help and actually put in place measures to ensure we're not shit?

****ing tired of the whingeing.

We have a million first round picks, we paid a coach record money, we have a great facility and debt free.
For ****s sake.

 

[shinboner spiggs]

In 2016 we delisted Boomer, Spud, Drew, Nicky Dal (and Wellsy went to the Pies) because they were deemed surplus to requirements due to their age. Almost 10 years later we've traded in veterans Parker, Darling & Daniel and are rumoured to be looking at Jake Lever. The circle of incompetency is complete, a wasted a decade of list mismanagement, what a pathetic football club.

You could write a book on where it all went wrong for us. But the mutiny would have at least a chapter or two dedicated to it.

 

[King Corey]

I only want to bring in Jake Lever

8

Jake Lever

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

242.0

4star

D

9.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

3.1

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

145.4

3star

D

16.0

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

189.8

4star

if we can bring in Taylor Walker

13

Taylor Walker

Age

35

Ht

192cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

1.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

at the same time.

 

[BlueanWhiteKanga]

Essendon will have to cut their list given how many debutants they've had to use this year cause of all the injuries.

In theory if Archer May got cut, would we be able to pick him up in the draft or would he be inelgible for it?

 

[Tiberius]

In 2016 we delisted Boomer, Spud, Drew, Nicky Dal (and Wellsy went to the Pies) because they were deemed surplus to requirements due to their age. Almost 10 years later we've traded in veterans Parker, Darling & Daniel and are rumoured to be looking at Jake Lever. The circle of incompetency is complete, a wasted decade of list mismanagement, what a pathetic football club.

I take your point, but to my mind the situations are a little different. Parker, Darling and Daniel were brought in to mentor and teach young talent who will hopefully become 10 year players for the club in the future. In 2016 this young talent didn't exist. LMac is the only one still here 9 years later. Mason Wood and I suspect Corey Wagner are the only ones still playing AFL. (And Goldy)
So when those champion veterans were delisted the problem was that there was nobody there to be mentored by them, and to come through in the future. It's the draftees from 2014-2016 who should be the backbone of our team now, and they aren't.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Essendon will have to cut their list given how many debutants they've had to use this year cause of all the injuries.

In theory if Archer May got cut, would we be able to pick him up in the draft or would he be inelgible for it?

he signed on an 18month contract he won't be cut

but if he did get cut yes you could get him as a delisted free agent

 

[My Left Foote]

You could write a book on where it all went wrong for us. But the mutiny would have at least a chapter or two dedicated to it.

The fact that not one single person at the club had the foresight to stagger the departures has me dumbfounded to this day.
2015 Trade Wells*
2016 Let Drew and Nicky Dal go
2017 Let Boomer and Spud go

Almost every competent club / list management team plan for the departures of their veterans, it really was the catalyst for the complete and utter mismanagement of our list over the next 10 years.

*Yes it's a bold move, perhaps influenced by hindsight, but he only played 2 games that year, the writing was on the wall.

 

[DuckYeah]

Our defense isn't actually the problem. We bleed goals because our midfielders don't / can't run defensively.

Oh it is a problem, its just one of many problems. The midfield defence is also a problem probably more significant than the defensive line

 

[DuckYeah]

we have a great facility

Its bog average and theres no parking. Its not great

 

[HugeJohnson1]

Pink and Comben are going to have to take those responsibilities in the meantime. I know it's not ideal but Lever is not the type of guy to be playing on them either. May would normally look after them or McDonald when May is not available.

I’m not sure if you’ve watched our games at all this year but Chom isn’t a defensive defender - he is best when he’s intercepting and playing semi-loose to cut off the supply of the opposing teams f50 entries.

Lever would be an upgrade on McDonald who is probably our second best natural defender behind Archer.

 

[Blightys Barrel]

**** Lever, he’ll come with a shit attitude that will just be happy collecting a pay day. Enough of that shit.

Shinboners suggested Fisher off to GC? I had to laugh, can we dream? That would be unreal!

I will contribute to his airfare Can he take Daniel in his Carry On luggage as well?

 

[kool kangas]

I think at the least they could at least look into introducing a ratioed tax on recruits (incl. free agents) not necessarily on current ladder position, but a rolling 3-5 year ranking.

Either the higher a team ranks, the wage plus an increasingly higher percentage on top is taken from their salary cap or the lower the team ranks a progressively smaller proportion of the wage is counted on the salary cap.

For example, say Geelong want to pay $1,000,000 a season for their latest Cotton On recruit, maybe they get a 20% tax and it uses up $1,200,000 of their salary cap.

Or if we recruited someone for $1,000,000 a season we get a 15% tax break and only $850,000 counts on our salary cap.

My example probably proves why it would make no difference, Geelong would still operate outside the salary cap and even with more money to spend, we would still struggle to convince worthwhile recruits to come to us! But, done correctly, it would at least give some hope to equalisation.

Money taxes wont solve the issue of players still wanting to go to top teams .Clubs will find a work around. The AFL need to make sure if players want to leave their club they go to a lower club and will still get a good contract except it wont be from a higher club but a lower one.

 

[Epictetus]

Its bog average and theres no parking. Its not great

It's got a gym and lockers and grass. I assume we have footballs?

There is no excuse. Not one ****ing excuse.

I'm tired of people looking for them.

 

[Flagroos24]

I will contribute to his airfare Can he take Daniel in his Carry On luggage as well?

I'd pack his bags for him!! Unfortunately they mentioned it was sent in from a listener so wouldn't take much from it

 

[shinboner magic]

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Tin rattlers

Neither. Nor would Jake Lever.

It wouldn't be an issue getting him if we shoot Logue, Corr, and Daniel off into the sun and Lever played alongside Dawson and Comben and marshalled the defence. But I can't see that happening.

You missed fisher

 

[jay317]

Max Hall another MSD miss for us? Or are we expecting GP to be better eventually.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I’m not sure if you’ve watched our games at all this year but Chom isn’t a defensive defender - he is best when he’s intercepting and playing semi-loose to cut off the supply of the opposing teams f50 entries.

Lever would be an upgrade on McDonald who is probably our second best natural defender behind Archer.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Sorry.

 

[Passmore]

Tin rattlers


You missed fisher

I'd literally forgotten about him. Thank you for that.

 

[Chip Scab1]

This would do it... I'd cease financial support. I probably would get a 3-Game as I'm not that fickle, but **** sake. Whenever we hit rock bottom we manage to locate the trap-door so quickly. We are serious and wanton, gluttons for punishment.