List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

31

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

23

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[Merlin007]

Word from the SANFL finals yesterday is we’ve offered Butts 3 x 600-650

it would be interesting to know what his manager's advice is - RFA next year, so he'd miss that opportunity to test the market if he jumped now

 

[Tiberius]

So how many list spots do the Saints have to free up to accommodate all of these incoming players plus draft picks?

 

[kanga kanga kanga]

 

[kool kangas]

Word from the SANFL finals yesterday is we’ve offered Butts 3 x 600-650

whats he on atm in regards to his contract

 

[The Nostradamus]

Word from the SANFL finals yesterday is we’ve offered Butts 3 x 600-650

Crows actually have another key defender that is cheaper that I’d look at in James Borlase

 

[Tiberius]

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Was Mark Fine the one who said that NWM was definitely going to Adelaide on the same morning that he re-signed with the Saints?

 

[archereleven]

in fairness Tauru shouldnt be getting a game, he is the future, but should be developing his game and body in the VFL similar to Whitlock and Dawson

Tauru has looked right at home at the level in the games I've watched, especially his spoiling and marking.
He isnt languishing in the magoos for long.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

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Is there a team where he fits less than Melbourne?

 

[Val Keating]

Does anyone see St Kilda actually improving all that much with all these changes?

I reckon we’ve seen this before with them, where they’ve overestimated their list and brought in players like Hill and Hannebery. Didn’t end well for them.

Yeah they should. Retaining NWM was bigger than any of those signings though.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Does anyone see St Kilda actually improving all that much with all these changes?

I reckon we’ve seen this before with them, where they’ve overestimated their list and brought in players like Hill and Hannebery. Didn’t end well for them.

That Hannebery deal is something Rawlings aspires to do.

 

[Passmore]

Does anyone see St Kilda actually improving all that much with all these changes?

I reckon we’ve seen this before with them, where they’ve overestimated their list and brought in players like Hill and Hannebery. Didn’t end well for them.

As it stands, and putting aside the money, I think it does. At worst they've added 4 reasonable/decent AFL players and pushes their worst 4 to depth.

If they start losing players, then no. If they did lose Windhager, Marshall and Wilkie, it would actually be a net negative

 

[archereleven]

That Hannebery deal is something Rawlings aspires to do.

That will be his parting gift to us

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Does anyone see St Kilda actually improving all that much with all these changes?

I reckon we’ve seen this before with them, where they’ve overestimated their list and brought in players like Hill and Hannebery. Didn’t end well for them.

They don’t have enough top end talent imo.

They take Sinclair and NWM out of half back and they are robbing Peter to pay Paul. Outside of those two, they don’t really have any game breakers.

 

[Hatchy1992]

As it stands, and putting aside the money, I think it does. At worst they've added 4 reasonable/decent AFL players and pushes their worst 4 to depth.

If they start losing players, then no. If they did lose Windhager, Marshall and Wilkie, it would actually be a net negative

Hasn't worked for poorta over the past few years and there could be an argument that poorta are closer than saint kilda.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Chip Scab1]

Soooo, the draft and that’s it?

Yeah, that's our lot until we improve.

Then we need to target someone looking to evade the bright lights. It ain't for everyone.

 

[Event Horizon]

We are the least desirable destination for practically every trade target.

Look at who we can attract?

There are 3 types of players we can get through the door:

• in the twilight of their career (Parker, Darling)
• on the outer at their current club and unlikely to get games there, of questionable quality (Konstanty, Stephens, Daniel)
• Mercs (Fisher, Lounge)

We are at the bottom, players come here when there is basically no other option or we are completely paying through the nose for their services.

So of course we present as the perfect counter point to basically any player from any line. If any starting 18 player from any club was on the table and we were asked about interest, we would be. We know it, they know it, and it is absolutely used as leverage.

Cam Joyce loaded this brush and tarred us with it, and our woeful on-field performances have spent half a decade reinforcing how desperate we are.

It makes all of the trade threads comical with how deluded people are with who they think we could get.

It also makes it absolutely crystal as to why a player like Spargo would be on our agenda. A player who actually may have said he wants to come here? We'd be all over that like stink on a monkey.

Unfortunately, this is true, and further underlined by the Windhager to Melbourne mail, despite them not having a coach. In other words, a young player in his prime would rather go to a club with no coach, thus taking a risk that a new coach won't have a role for him (a club that has finished well outside the eight) than consider us, despite having a 4 time Premiership coach who is happy to sell the club to him.

But it's probably fixable after one good season. By that I mean at least the sort of season that St Kilda just had.

 

[ferball]

How dare you question the hyperbole.

Do you question other types of bowls too?

WTF is lawn bowls? Huh?

And what about those round things you put soup and ice cream in? Being a box too good for them is it, they have to be a glorified ceramic tit?

 

[Flagroos24]

Does anyone see St Kilda actually improving all that much with all these changes?

I reckon we’ve seen this before with them, where they’ve overestimated their list and brought in players like Hill and Hannebery. Didn’t end well for them.

Zack Jones another

 

[The Filth Wizard]

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This was what he said Friday night... some of the rest of the media seems to have added Melbourne into any references to this move but nobody seems to be aligned, hence us and St Kilda still being mentioned. Not sure this really means anything at all until the Windhager camp speak.

 

[Chip Scab1]

We need to be doing that regardless,,,more "trembaths please!!!" ,,the draft is so compromised, and with all the data available on juniors means the top end of the draft is pretty fairly priced. So just hitting the draft every year isn't enough. On top of that with free agency, who really believes in the salary cap? There are so many ways to pay players off the books. I actually rented a house out to a (now retired) AFL star, and seen his contract as "proof of income" standard real estate checks etc. I can tell you I was gob smacked on how small it was ie/ about 25pct of what was reported in the media.

For taxation purposes?

Maybe he gets the rest of his "wage" under an ABN.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

re ruited

 

[pupstar]

Unfortunately, this is true, and further underlined by the Windhager to Melbourne mail, despite them not having a coach. In other words, a young player in their prime would rather go to a club with no coach, thus taking a risk that a new coach won't have a role for him (a club that has finished well outside the eight) than consider us, despite having a 4 time Premiership coach who is happy to sell the club to him.

But it's probably fixable after one good season. By that I mean at least the sort of season that St Kilda just had.

Yet all our highly ranked young players are happy to sign long term deals with the club. Our time will come.

 

[NMFC TID]

Just saw someone on X saying Tsatas doing a medical at Porta.

 

[BrownPaperBag]

Just saw someone on X saying Tsatas doing a medical at Porta.

Good