VFL 2025 VFL Thread

[willofwest]

You didn't rate Kennedy's game? He had close to 30 possessions, kicked 3 goals and seemed pretty busy from what I saw of it.

Not really, maybe did a lot more in close or on other side of the ground.

 

[Mojorisin]

You didn't rate Kennedy's game? He had close to 30 possessions, kicked 3 goals and seemed pretty busy from what I saw of it.

Kennedy clear and away best on for me.
Coffield battled admirable, Gardner looked good defending (not so with ball in hand), Duryea got alot of it, Jones had flashes and Smith fought against BTC all day with strong tackles.

 

[dergert]

Good for Kennedy to have a breakout game.

 

[BrisDog]

Currently 1 unless something changes with Jamarra or Weightman in the meantime.

Can’t see us taking more than 1 regardless

Surely we get a second for the JUH freak show. I would like to see Crossley let loose in the RW & B.

 

[BrisDog]

Lol Gardner.. even the commentators making mention of his disposal

Off to Geelong is the word

 

[Mojorisin]

Surely we get a second for the JUH freak show. I would like to see Crossley let loose in the RW & B.

He had an absolute beast of a game today up against a potential mid season Pick in Kuol Mun.
17 touches a goal and 51 hit outs.

 

[BrisDog]

Off to dig for your IQ

Are you being abusive to me Doggy?

I am very sensitive about me IQ.

 

[Here we go dogs]

Not really, maybe did a lot more in close or on other side of the ground.

He is really hard to notice in the flesh. He looks the same as a few others.

 

[Thesharks]

If English got injured would Smith get a game? Is Smith a realistic future first ruck?

 

[JTCWBFC]

If English got injured would Smith get a game? Is Smith a realistic future first ruck?

Reckon we’d move Lobb in

 

[DognBones]

If English got injured would Smith get a game? Is Smith a realistic future first ruck?

He's a completely different type to English. His method is body on body with little or no jump at the ball-ups and throw-ins.
What he lacks in size he tries to make up with body movement and is generally more than competitive.
As a comparison, I'd say he broke even with Tom Campbell against Casey even though Campbell is bigger and more experienced. He is developing his all round game in the VFL but I don't think he's ready to match bigger, stronger rucks at AFL level yet. If we had to promote him as a break glass option he would certainly bring his very best to the contest.

 

[weltschmerz]

If English got injured would Smith get a game? Is Smith a realistic future first ruck?

Not this year. Future I think so.

 

[TiAn_]

He's a completely different type to English. His method is body on body with little or no jump at the ball-ups and throw-ins.
What he lacks in size he tries to make up with body movement and is generally more than competitive.
As a comparison, I'd say he broke even with Tom Campbell against Casey even though Campbell is bigger and more experienced. He is developing his all round game in the VFL but I don't think he's ready to match bigger, stronger rucks at AFL level yet. If we had to promote him as a break glass option he would certainly bring his very best to the contest.

Still only 19. Wouldn’t be surprised if he takes until he’s 24-25 like Tristan Xerri. Very similar bulldozer style that requires years of building the strength for.

 

[VitalDread]

I didnt get a chance to watch the game but purely on stats

Hynes really needs to find the footy a bit more

 

[grassman75]

Off to Geelong is the word

Not Werribee? Getting a share in the farm down there I heard…..

 

[grassman75]

He had an absolute beast of a game today up against a potential mid season Pick in Kuol Mun.
17 touches a goal and 51 hit outs.

Kuol mun? Is that someone taking the piss or what?

 

[Mojorisin]

Kuol mun? Is that someone taking the piss or what?

Of African decent full name is Ajang Kuol-Mun

 

[grassman75]

Of African decent full name is Ajang Kuol-Mun

I figured that, but all I can hear is a Jamaican saying Cool Mon

 

[lachy]

I didnt get a chance to watch the game but purely on stats

Hynes really needs to find the footy a bit more

Hynes definitely and Dolan too

 

[PocketRocket08]

Hynes definitely and Dolan too

Jesus a lot of our supporters have zero understanding of player development and understanding playing small medium fwd is the toughest position in the game and harder at vfl level
than AFL level. it’s not about possesions what so ever. Both boys have showed enough and as they get fitter and understand the system and their role better they will continue to get better. Bright futures the both of them.

 

[lachy]

Jesus a lot of our supporters have zero understanding of player development and understanding playing small medium fwd is the toughest position in the game and harder at vfl level
than AFL level. it's not about possessions whatsoever. Both boys have showed enough and as they get fitter and understand the system and their role better they will continue to get better. Bright futures the both of them.

Actually if you had any understanding of player development you would understand that part of that development as a small forward is to actually get the football enough times as well as create pressure to influence the scoreboard. They currently do not get enough of the football for their role, therefore they are back in the VFL to work on that. That is both factual and is part of their development.

At no stage has any poster here not said said they do not have Bright Futures.

Dolan in particular reeks class when he gets it. When you only get it 3 times in a full game as he did against GWS he has to work on his positioning and running patterns off the ball and why he was put back into the VFL. For the first 2 1/2 quarters of the VFL he was not getting enough of the ball. In the last quarter and a half he had some influential possessions. Whether the coaches believe he has shown enough consistency will determine when he is back in the AFL.

However, to say 'its not about possessions whatsoever' is at best a very naïve understanding of what is required at AFL level for that role

 

[Bulldogs85]

Footscray has swung six changes for its Round 8 Sir Doug Nicholls Round clash with Williamstown.

Senior-listed Bulldogs Oskar Baker

13

Oskar Baker

Age

28

Ht

184cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.7

4star

MG

277.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

333.6

5star

, Jedd Busslinger, Harvey Gallagher and Caleb Poulter have been recalled.

Phoenix Spicer has also been included, while Fred Valpied will make his debut.

Taylor Duryea

15

Taylor Duryea

Age

35

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

10.7

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.0

4star

K

9.6

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.8

4star

and Arthur Jones have been elevated to the AFL side, David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

and Ted Middleton will miss through injury, and Diesel Moloney and Matt Belbasis have been omitted.

The first bounce will be at 3:05pm AEST on Saturday 17 May, and be live streamed via the AFL website and AFL Live Official app.

They will also debut the 2025 First Nations guernseys designed by Kamilya Lowana White.



VFL Round 8

Williamstown v Footscray
Saturday 17 May, 3:05pm AEST
DSV Stadium, Williamstown

B	A. Scott (28)	W. Lewis (64)	L. Jaques (11)
HB	O. Baker (13)	B. Young (67)	C. Hynes (6)
C	P. Spicer (63)	C. Poulter (25)	J. Dolan (26)
HF	H. Gallagher (12)	J. Busslinger (5)	D. Orgill (50)
F	N. Coffield (17)	L. Smith (40)	B. Crofts (54)
R	R. Gardner (43)	C. Craig-Peters (61)	L. Kennedy (35)
INT	T. Maple (65)	E. Hunt (56)	C. Smith (55)
	C. Hargraves (52)	F. Valpied (53)
23rd Player	F. Valpied (53)
EMG	D. Moloney (75)	M. Belbasis (78)	C. Dahms (59)
IN	O. Baker	J. Busslinger	H. Gallagher
C. Poulter	P. Spicer	F. Valpied
OUT	T. Duryea (AFL)	A. Jones (AFL)	D. Cuningham (injured)
T. Middleton (injured)	D.

 

[PocketRocket08]

Actually if you had any understanding of player development you would understand that part of that development as a small forward is to actually get the football enough times as well as create pressure to influence the scoreboard. They currently do not get enough of the football for their role, therefore they are back in the VFL to work on that. That is both factual and is part of their development.

At no stage has any poster here not said said they do not have Bright Futures.

Dolan in particular reeks class when he gets it. When you only get it 3 times in a full game as he did against GWS he has to work on his positioning and running patterns off the ball and why he was put back into the VFL. For the first 2 1/2 quarters of the VFL he was not getting enough of the ball. In the last quarter and a half he had some influential possessions. Whether the coaches believe he has shown enough consistency will determine when he is back in the AFL.

However, to say 'its not about possessions whatsoever' is at best a very naïve understanding of what is required at AFL level for that role

pipe down. i have read countless times on here supporters constantly be negative about out players it’s pathetic. Luke cleary best example got no afl traits and so on.
Most of the people on here wouldn’t get of the couch. Unlike you i have been involved in the game at a very high level and in development.
As a small fwd yes they need to get the ball and hit the scoreboard i didn’t say it wasn’t important but its less important than them
keep the defensive structures and running patterns while providing plenty of pressure and being competitive. Possessions and goals will come.

 

[lachy]

pipe down. i have read countless times on here supporters constantly be negative about out players it’s pathetic. Luke cleary best example got no afl traits and so on.
Most of the people on here wouldn’t get of the couch. Unlike you i have been involved in the game at a very high level and in development.
As a small fwd yes they need to get the ball and hit the scoreboard i didn’t say it wasn’t important but its less important than them
keep the defensive structures and running patterns while providing plenty of pressure and being competitive. Possessions and goals will come.

'Unlike you i have been involved in the game at a very high level and in development.'

Massive assumption there Champ

You chose my comment noting nothing more than they both need to get more of the football.

A reminder:

Hynes definitely and Dolan too

Jesus a lot of our supporters have zero understanding of player development and understanding playing small medium fwd is the toughest position in the game and harder at vfl level
than AFL level. it’s not about possesions what so ever. Both boys have showed enough and as they get fitter and understand the system and their role better they will continue to get better. Bright futures the both of them.


You said "it's not about possessions whatsoever" which is what I quoted. Where did I say anything about you saying "As a small fwd yes they need to get the ball and hit the scoreboard i didn’t say it wasn’t important but its less important than them"

So stop making pious judgements about others opinions, particularly when YOU have no understanding about all posters, and on a lot of your points they actually agree with you, such as Cleary, I will also add L Kennedy and Buss, as they do have a very good understanding from experience about developing players in various positions on the ground

 

[lachy]

Beautiful day to be playing at Willy!!!

It will be a slog down there, pocket a win and move on to next week