2nds 2025 VFL thread

[Nunez]

I like the way he plays but just don't think he will get a chance here at The Lions. If he doesn't have interest from other clubs, I see him delisted at the end of the year.

He won't be delisted.

 

[Crusha]

Clips of Luke Beecken and Zane Zakostelsky from VFL Round 7.
(Note: ZZ's ruck clips are not representative of the whole game - there were as many, if not more, where he was beaten)

Zane Zakostelsky #21



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Luke Beecken #17

 

[Nathan Barley]

ZZs nimbleness seemingly works well in ruck contests to avoid contact in getting to the drop of the ball and taking it clean out of the ruck. A smarter ruck would likely work this out but it’s a unique asset

 

[Section 5]

ZZ looks a far better ruck prospect than Gallop.
Very mobile around the ground which you want to see.

He started very slowly in 2024 but came good in the back half of the year.
This year a similar start but the last 3 games he has come good two being helping out in the ruck
Looks like he prefers more freedom around the ground that a ruck gets, rather than the limited defense structure.

Beecken also putting his hand up should the selectors want to take a risk while we have Starch, Kiddy and Doedee not quite ready, although Doedee and Kiddy are close.

 

[Quigley]

ZZ was a very decent ruck at wafl so not a surprise he would do okay in the VFL. He would be a very nice AFL ruck prospect if he was 5-10 cms taller.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I like the way he plays but just don't think he will get a chance here at The Lions. If he doesn't have interest from other clubs, I see him delisted at the end of the year.

We have a top 10 player to match this year. Even if Beecken doesn't want to stay on here, it'd be silly to delist him when he could fetch a pick upgrade to help us match a bid.

 

[briztoon]

We have a top 10 player to match this year. Even if Beecken doesn't want to stay on here, it'd be silly to delist him when he could fetch a pick upgrade to help us match a bid.

Probably need dlanod help here.

There are some specific rules/conditions that have to be met, to be able to trade a rookie. Pretty sure we have to offer Beecken a contract and senior list spot, to be able to then trade him, if he doesn't want to take up the offer. Otherwise he walks as a delisted free agent.

 

[dlanod]

Probably need dlanod help here.

There are some specific rules/conditions that have to be met, to be able to trade a rookie. Pretty sure we have to offer Beecken a contract and senior list spot, to be able to then trade him, if he doesn't want to take up the offer. Otherwise he walks as a delisted free agent.

Rookies are tradeable same as anyone else. Been for years, Sam Jacobs got traded off the rookie list. The key part is that the club trading for the player has to put them on their senior list. The only other part is the same as any other out of contract player - they need to be offered a new contract otherwise they're delisted and hence a DFA, albeit with one exception for rookie players - if they've spent two years on the rookie list and you're offering them a third on the rookie list, they can decline it and automatically become a FA.

There's a funky rule about how MSD rookies become free agents automatically but that doesn't seem to apply to Beecken since he's not on the list.

Edit: dug up Massimo D’Ambrosio since I knew it applied to him - it's the same rule as the rookie one I mentioned above, it's just that 1.5 seasons counts as 2 for MSD rookies. So we'll need to offer a senior list spot to avoid Beecken having the option to delist himself, or we can offer a rookie spot if we're comfortable that he won't want out.

 

[Perrip]

Few VFL players have nominated for the MSD:
Tahj Abberley, Harry Arnold, Ryan Gilder, Wyatt Greenaway, Fergus McFadyen, & Benjamin Thomas

 

[MSB ROYS]

Finally another VFL game: in Melbourne against Box Hill Hawks at 11.05 am AEST on Saturday.

 

[davemc_lions]

VFL Team Announcement: Doedee and Reville headline changes for Box Hill

The Brisbane Lions VFL side will welcome back Tom Doedee and Bruce Reville among five changes to its side ahead of their Round 9 clash with Box Hill.

www.lions.com.au

 

[irel]

Game has started.

 

[irel]

Bruce with first goal

 

[Mayestro]

No Sam Marshall I think he said- ridiculous disparity between the volumes of the two callers.

Great start by Bruce.

 

[irel]

Gallop, great contested mark and goal

 

[Mayestro]

Gallop, great contested mark and goal

I thought it was McFadyen? The app says Gallop though but the commentators were talking McFadyen and I’m pretty sure I saw his number.

 

[irel]

No mistaking this time. Gallop with a goal..

 

[Mr Ripper]

Yeah, the champion data nerds on duty have credited a McFadyen goal to Gallop. Nerds.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Fancy starting a game this early. I missed quite a bit of the first quarter but Torrent looked pretty good from what I saw.

 

[irel]

Great first quarter, led by Zakostelsky, Torrent and Craven.

 

[LongLion]

Great first quarter, led by Zakostelsky, Torrent and Craven.

Liking ZZ more every time I see him now he is playing ruck. Good leap and very mobile.

 

[Section 5]

Got the last half of that quarter.
Is a wind favoring one end or were we just better.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Liking ZZ more every time I see him now he is playing ruck. Good leap and very mobile.

This was his strength coming through the draft, didn't have a lot of game time under his belt but from memory he was top 5 in almost every speed and jump test.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Ramsden looks handy for the Hawks. Unfortunately our record at getting talls from them hasn't been great lately. But if they get Oscar Allen

4

Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

it might be an interesting question to ask.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Box Hill love a preemptive tackle. Tunstill getting mauled.