2nds 2025 VFL thread

[Bucking Beads]

Encouraging comeback for Smith, it seems.
Not so Coleman?

Smith clunked a few nice marks. Coleman shocking.in every way..

 

[Lace Out]

Smith clunked a few nice marks. Coleman shocking.in every way..

If it is to be we will be be doing it without Kiddy this year…run out of time I reckon

 

[twhowler]

for those able to watch, does smith look ready?

Day strikes me as the sort of player who will not do any better in 2s compared to 1s

Why does kiddy seem so far off it? fitness? confidence?

 

[Section 5]

 

[martinson]

for those able to watch, does smith look ready?

Day strikes me as the sort of player who will not do any better in 2s compared to 1s

Why does kiddy seem so far off it? fitness? confidence?

Smith looks like he can ruck at least and is mobile for his size. Plus he improves a lot for the hitout. Looks very promising considering his prep.

Kiddy looked nowhere near it but maybe he just wanted to get through a game.

 

[knaf]

Smith looks like he can ruck at least and is mobile for his size. Plus he improves a lot for the hitout. Looks very promising considering his prep.

Kiddy looked nowhere near it but maybe he just wanted to get through a game.

Smith looked like he spent a lot of time in the gym while off with the foot injury. Could be a turning point for him.

 

[Bucking Beads]

If it is to be we will be be doing it with Kiddy this year…run out of time I reckon

He looks a mile off but gee it would be good to get him back this year. His best is phenomenal but his kicking today was pretty poor by his standards.

 

[Lace Out]

He looks a mile off but gee it would be good to get him back this year. His best is phenomenal but his kicking today was pretty poor by his standards.

*without (of course)

 

[irel]

Stats indicate Prindable did OK.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Stats indicate Prindable did OK.

He looked pretty comfortable without standing out. Could be another Toby Triffet

 

[HereIGoAgain]

Stats indicate Prindable did OK.

Can get his hands on the ball and hits the ball at pace at the stoppages which is a good sign. Another one on the production line. Looking forward to see if he can go on with it.

 

[martinson]

I know it's a VFL game and there are many other factors at play but on what we saw today I'd prefer Smith over Day.

Whether Smith is presently seasoned enough for a 4 quarter AFL game is the issue.

 

[irel]

I know it's a VFL game and there are many other factors at play but on what we saw today I'd prefer Smith over Day.

Whether Smith is presently seasoned enough for a 4 quarter AFL game is the issue.

He won't get seasoned playing VFL.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Is the VFL game next week at the Suns training oval?

 

[harvester]

Maybe Coleman's feeling a bit flat. Been a difficult year for him

 

[M Malice]

Maybe Coleman's feeling a bit flat. Been a difficult year for him

Great point, I still have confidence he can turn it around in the next month and be a weapon for us in the seniors for finals.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Is the VFL game next week at the Suns training oval?

Yep.

Would have required a 9am start if it was played inside the stadium.

 

[BuntonRules]

Great point, I still have confidence he can turn it around in the next month and be a weapon for us in the seniors for finals.

I'm still maintain that the injury Kiddy had was more akin to a car crash than a normal ACL and we should temper our expectations. I would be happy if Kiddy is set for next season, to take over from Zorks rather than compete with him. Get yourself 100% then we fly again.

 

[Comeback Lions]

for those able to watch, does smith look ready?

Day strikes me as the sort of player who will not do any better in 2s compared to 1s

Why does kiddy seem so far off it? fitness? confidence?

I’d give Smith one more week.. but he was probably the most desperate player on the field from what I saw. Played with sustained intensity.

Kiddy doesn’t seem to be playing with enough pace. He can still kick well, but the defence got smashed in the first quarter and he (and everyone else) couldn’t stop the carnage. Needs to find some form to demand a spot… don’t think he’s there yet.

 

[GenericUsername202]

Not everyone is a world beater at VFL level, not to mention Coleman has spent basically his whole career playing AFL level games. VFL is a lot different and players like Morris struggled in the VFL as well because it lacks structure and a lot of people play for themselves. This is why you will see a lot of players in the past rack up almost 40 possessions in the VFL, but struggle to replicate it in an AFL game. Coleman is facing poor injuries and coming into a system that is completely different from the AFL system. So he is having to get used to a lot of things at once.

 

[Sunny Land]

Not everyone is a world beater at VFL level, not to mention Coleman has spent basically his whole career playing AFL level games. VFL is a lot different and players like Morris struggled in the VFL as well because it lacks structure and a lot of people play for themselves. This is why you will see a lot of players in the past rack up almost 40 possessions in the VFL, but struggle to replicate it in an AFL game. Coleman is facing poor injuries and coming into a system that is completely different from the AFL system. So he is having to get used to a lot of things at once.

Coleman played a lot of VFL/NEAFL footy before he got his opportunity in the seniors. The VFL team and competition now is a significantly better competition to play footy in now that when it was NEAFL.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Not everyone is a world beater at VFL level, not to mention Coleman has spent basically his whole career playing AFL level games. VFL is a lot different and players like Morris struggled in the VFL as well because it lacks structure and a lot of people play for themselves. This is why you will see a lot of players in the past rack up almost 40 possessions in the VFL, but struggle to replicate it in an AFL game. Coleman is facing poor injuries and coming into a system that is completely different from the AFL system. So he is having to get used to a lot of things at once.

This is revisionist history, Coleman has played a lot of reserves matches, especially when he was 19. And Morris didn't struggle there at all, he kicked 16 goals in 8 games.

 

[GenericUsername202]

This is revisionist history, Coleman has played a lot of reserves matches, especially when he was 19. And Morris didn't struggle there at all, he kicked 16 goals in 8 games.

Morris himself said on the podcast that he did struggle more in VFL than AFL, and that it was easier to jump into an AFL game because everyone was playing for each other. Rather than for themselves in the VFL.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Morris himself said on the podcast that he did struggle more in VFL than AFL, and that it was easier to jump into an AFL game because everyone was playing for each other. Rather than for themselves in the VFL.

Maybe he found it relatively easier at AFL level, but 16 goals in 8 games isn't struggling by any means.

 

[LoganMorrisFan]

Kiddy moved quite well but his kicking was average. He didn't really take any handball receives and mostly bombed it long or dished it off to Beecken. I think he and Tom looked decent on intercept in the second half when we bothered to put pressure on up the field. Smith has a higher ceiling than Day both ruck and forward but whether he can crash in for a full game against the bigger bodies is the question for me.