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It’s almost like they realise that it’s only one extra stop on a train, an indoor stadium with no elements and MCC members do actually get access to th ground.
Meanwhile at Melbourne and Richmond…
Strikes me as fanbases far too spoilt for games.
I go between Adelaide, Melbourne and Canberra to watch mine given the lack of games here . . . To go another stop over on a train would be amazing.
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Aren't you answering your own question? There's what, 100k or so MCC members that would get free entry to an MCG game but need to book a seat at Marvel. Combined with a much smaller AFL members reserve you can quite easily see how crowds are 10 to 15k lower just from that. With Melbourne having the largest MCC member supporter base its fair to assume that they'd be the most affected.
I agree its a shade bizarre, because generally the view is a lot better at Marvel.
Precisely. I know Carlton and Richmond have sold the odd game but it’s unbelievable how caviar Hawthorn is with selling their home games — which ultimately is the product.
Completely unnecessary as it’s now impossible to lose money on Melbourne based games under the new Marvel / MCG stadium deals.
The Victorian clubs have all become good at signing up MCC members as club members too. That gives MCC members access to Docklands games too.
I think we overstate the difference in crowds between MCG and Docklands games…unless it’s between two blockbuster Victorian clubs.
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Sure, but Hawks would only have about 15k MCC members among the 150,000 all membership type members. Some of them would at least be passionate enough that cost alone isn't going to prevent you from buying a new ticket. I get that there's a pool of neutral supporters in Melbourne who only go to MCG and not Marvel games, but it's really not all that significant - not more than a couple of thousand. Given neutral people go to Docklands games too - after all, it was the only game on in Melbourne today. Hawks did well to minimise that crowd difference to merely be only about 10k for what an MCG crowd "would have" been, but that can often go into the 15k-25k range for other sometime MCG team games when they play at Docklands.
Because the MCG is such an outstanding stadium, it leads to a level of pretentiousness by comparison for Marvel, people over-highlighting its weaknesses as a stadium as a result. Like you say, you get a fantastic view of the game from every seat in the house, and a variety of choice as to what angle you want to watch a game in - unlike literally every other AFL stadium there is.
Spoilt is not the right word especially given Melbourne’s performance over the last 60 years.
It is an ingrained irrational hatred of the place since it was built and the idea that the MCG is “Home.”
Having said that, Melbourne did lose over 20 games in a row there between 2007-2015) which used to be an excuse.
Maybe.. I think it’s a cultural thing more. Richmond fans were told by their coach it’s a hole. Demons fans tell each other we don’t go there. Hawks fans…. They just go there without fanfare.
If wanting your home games to be at your home venue is spoilt. Consider me a spoilt brat.
In such a inequitable fixture of different teams twice, different game breaks you’d think by letting clubs play their home games where they want - it would be an an easy win.
Meanwhile Richmond continue to pour Petrol on the hate Marvel fire. 
I'd love to be that spoilt. Would cost me much less than going to Canberra, Adelaide and Melbourne.
On the plus side the latter two allow me to get 4-5 games in me to tie me over until the next trip
The absolute refusal to let clubs do just that, lol.
Meanwhile Richmond continue to pour Petrol on the hate Marvel fire.
I will say it again… Richmond can go public with its dislike of Marvel but it’s detrimental to its interests. It should be promoting its games there and trying to pull a crowd. I don’t understand its ongoing ‘relationship’ with the stadium. It’s counterproductive to its interests.
Why should they? Besides some people hanging onto a quarter of a century Waverley grudge
I don’t subscribe to the club being this intelligent, but i believe that the Tassie deal is north of $1 million for one game a year.
Fair or not, the tiger members hate Marvel and the idea of moving a game from Marvel to Tassie was accepted with open arms by 99% of members. So maybe it is in their interest.
Or maybe Richmond created such a toxic situation with Marvel they were forced to look to sell a game interstateI don’t subscribe to the club being this intelligent, but i believe that the Tassie deal is north of $1 million for one game a year.
Fair or not, the tiger members hate Marvel and the idea of moving a game from Marvel to Tassie was accepted with open arms by 99% of members. So maybe it is in their interest.
Hawthirn drew 37,000 to their game yesterday. If Richmond wanted to be proactive it could’ve created a little opportunity from day one. It drew 38,000 against the Power in that Ben Cousins game. It had an opportunity back then to create something. A Tiger home away from home. Fast forward to 2026 and it’s forced down to Tassie to play in front of 12,000. It could’ve been different if the club took a different path years earlier.
Hawthorn now have an opportunity to create something, it should look to build on the strong crowd yesterday.
I think one thing that hasn’t been mentioned in the Hawks-Tassie deal is the competitive advantage the ground gives the team. You can almost always bank 3 wins a year there, often the full 4, which makes it worth continuing, even at just 1-2 games, in my opinion.
Or maybe Richmond created such a toxic situation with Marvel they were forced to look to sell a game interstate
Hawthirn drew 37,000 to their game yesterday. If Richmond wanted to be proactive it could’ve created a little opportunity from day one. It drew 38,000 against the Power in that Ben Cousins game. It had an opportunity back then to create something. A Tiger home away from home. Fast forward to 2026 and it’s forced down to Tassie to play in front of 12,000. It could’ve been different if the club took a different path years earlier.
Hawthorn now have an opportunity to create something, it should look to build on the strong crowd yesterday.
All it would take it opening the roof all the time and I’m there.
Today, cold soulless, dark and that’s not even mentioning the on field performance.
I don’t understand why but having it open transforms the stadium feel and look completely.
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I agreeAll it would take it opening the roof all the time and I’m there.
Today, cold soulless, dark and that’s not even mentioning the on field performance.
I don’t understand why but having it open transforms the stadium feel and look completely.
I don’t like it much either tbh!
So the Richmond membership preferred to make the match far less accessable to them by approving a home game in Tasmania than having a home game a few kms from the MCG. Am I understanding that correctly?I don’t subscribe to the club being this intelligent, but i believe that the Tassie deal is north of $1 million for one game a year.
Fair or not, the tiger members hate Marvel and the idea of moving a game from Marvel to Tassie was accepted with open arms by 99% of members. So maybe it is in their interest.
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Hawthorn crowds at Waverley were dreadful anyway. The best thing they ever did was leave the dump and move to MCG. It literally saved the club.
Sorry old article (2009) which has been taken down from the Herald Sun website…
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Wow that is very, very good for North. I note they opened up the full top deck too which must be a first for a non Coll / Carl / ESS game since Covid?
The Dees v Lions crowd looks every bit as big (if not bigger) than the Dees v Saints game.
The Hobart game is just dumb.
I do like the idea of an SCG ‘home’ game against the Giants at the start of the year though (ie Easter). Great way to get 10,000 Richmond fans to Sydney over the long weekend and a great way to help the Giants over a difficult time of year. I would love Hawthorn to do something like that with the new Olympic Stadium in Brisbane too (just not at Easter, maybe Kings Birthday).
It works quite well for North in Perth…
