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Must be a common theme in my life. I was at that RA gig too...

First time in my life I was actually given a refund by the promoter/venue. Apparently his artist payment was withheld due to OHS breaches in the artist contract for his behaviour towards venue staff.
Did someone ask him to play Summer of 69?
 
Cripps is a poor captain. Always has been...

Can't kick a clutch goal to save himself
His skills are quite poor
Can't rally the troops
Tries to do everything himself...does not trust team mates
Rarely takes first option
Thinks he owns the CBAs
His interviews are just waffle and platitudes and his (and the team's actions) on the field bear no resemblance to what comes out of his mouth pre-game

If that triggers people, press IGNORE and move on
How ironic. Ignore function is available to you as well.
 

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Ah, classic. Yes - it's just a media witch hunt.

Let's ignore:

  • His bizarre body language pre-game & warm up
Body language.
  • His failure to register a single stat for 3.5 quarters
This is the only thing quantifiable.
  • His teammates ignoring him at every turn - both in terms of interacting & giving him the ball
Body language, not Elijah's but his teammates.
  • His clear confusion out on the field
Body language.
  • His behavior that clearly demonstrated he was not fit to be out there
Body language again.
  • The fact he's had a history with substance abuse
Care to take a guess at the amount of people, in society, on the football field, or on this website with a history of substance abuse, CS?

You willing to judge all of them, too?
  • The fact his body language is pretty much a text-book example of someone on some type of substance - particularly the footage from the bench at the end of the game (and Tom Morris' propaganda video).
And this is where Tom Morris got you: he led you to the poison, and you're drinking it whole.
'Yes, curse Tom Morris and the 2 minute video footage, and curse all you Carlton fans for buying into this witch hunt, you should all have a good, hard look at yourselves!'

Whatever Elijah is going through is his own battle - and I wish him well - but this club needs to explain itself to the league, fans & their own players (who also have a role in this).

So quit trying to gaslight us into thinking we're falling for propaganda, and that this is just a non-story.
Yeah, I ain't the one gaslighting you. Morris has already done it, got it covered.

If you want to play the fool further, don't let me hold you back. Headbutting walls is the slowest way to learn, but pain is sometimes a teacher none the less.
Agree Re Harry. The rest of what you wrote is absolute rubbish.
'I disagree' does not equal rubbish. Someone really should've taught you the difference, but I suppose it is still school holidays; there's time for you to understand.
There was 80k at the game last night, most of us with 2 working eyes.

We don't need Tom Morris to tell us what we witnessed.
So you must be one of those body language savants I mentioned before. Tell me, did you use the technique where someone rubs their eyes at the wrong time to prove their dishonesty?

What does the lifeline on my palm dictate about my love life, Bell Ringer? Do you know what's in my tea leaves?

Care to cast my horoscope? How is your grasp of phrenology; can you tell what Elijah's predilection to crime is from measurements to his skull?

Seriously. Body Language is bunk science under the best circumstances, and you were at best 10+ metres away from him. Go tell what you know to those who are gullible enough to listen. Or - better yet - don't.
 
Let's be honest. There is a lot to unpack but primarily we lost because we were playing with 17 men out there, not 18.

I'm tired of the the 'let's all support him...again' narrative. He is a grown man with the best resources, care and support around that you could possible ask for. At what point does a grown adult accept the privileged life they lead and take responsibility - particularly one that has had so many indiscretions?

Harry Perryman - his opponent - is a mediocre footballer and Collingwood quickly identified our man was "off" and played through Perryman as much as possible. He's had a top-5 career high 27 touches because Collingwood were smart enough to exploit our "non playing" number #20.

Being responsible for that last 6-6-6 infringement when Ainsworth was screaming at him to get back in the forward line just summed up our footy club.

So, so sad & disappointing. Feel for #4 in particular.
 
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Body language.

This is the only thing quantifiable.

Body language, not Elijah's but his teammates.

Body language.

Body language again.

Care to take a guess at the amount of people, in society, on the football field, or on this website with a history of substance abuse, CS?

You willing to judge all of them, too?

And this is where Tom Morris got you: he led you to the poison, and you're drinking it whole.

Yeah, I ain't the one gaslighting you. Morris has already done it, got it covered.

If you want to play the fool further, don't let me hold you back. Headbutting walls is the slowest way to learn, but pain is sometimes a teacher none the less.

'I disagree' does not equal rubbish. Someone really should've taught you the difference, but I suppose it is still school holidays; there's time for you to understand.

So you must be one of those body language savants I mentioned before. Tell me, did you use the technique where someone rubs their eyes at the wrong time to prove their dishonesty?

What does the lifeline on my palm dictate about my love life, Bell Ringer? Do you know what's in my tea leaves?

Care to cast my horoscope? How is your grasp of phrenology; can you tell what Elijah's predilection to crime is from measurements to his skull?

Seriously. Body Language is bunk science under the best circumstances, and you were at best 10+ metres away from him. Go tell what you know to those who are gullible enough to listen. Or - better yet - don't.

FMD, you're coming across as someone who can't understand something unless it's spelled out in a text book or peer-reviewed study for them.

His behavior was highly erratic, the club has asked the media to treat it with severe sensitivity, Voss admitted they had to manage him throughout the week, every movement from him out on the field points to a guy who's either on the gear or heavily coming off it. Yet you're trying to say it's a non-story, whilst the rest of the football world are in disbelief.

And yes, I've been around plenty of people who've experienced substance abuse. I'm guessing you haven't, because if you had, you wouldn't be smugly sitting here saying Elijahs behavior was normal and there's nothing to see here.

Wake up, because this will be the biggest story of the week and it's going to be very tiring for you if you're going to keep calling it fake news.
 

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Lewis Young is comfortably in the top 5 worst footballers I've seen in the Navy Blue in the ~35 years I've been watching.

It's laughable he is still on our list, let alone being gifted snr games.

That's the problem with half the guys on our list, they all have their flaws, now if the coaches can't hide or fix their flaws, agree, they shouldn't be on our list. However, he is on our list, so use him to his strengths and not expose them in the backline where here is like a dear in head lights when he has the ball. They are destroying the player and his team mates.

Lachie Fogerty, 90 games as a small forward, 30 goals? WTF? Our system is flawed on how we use these players, why not try him as a shut down tagger, has the strength and power, but no, we use him as a shutdown forward who doesn't kick goals? I could go on.

Does Voss & Co know, that to win games we need to kick goals? Every time we got a quick break last night out of defence we had to stop because there was no one in our forward 50?

Our coaches are fixated as to where these players should play and it is clearly not working. One tagger for Daicos? Mix it up and have multiple players tag him
 
Others are calling it out but Matty Carroll is taking the next steps. Good to see.

Some other positives for the night.

Williams and Newman back to their best.

Hayward responded somewhat to a shocking game last week.

Dean will play 200+.
Is it just me, or does anyone else see leadership qualities in Carroll.
I've been super impressed in his development.

Dean is an amazing get for us.
 
Turned it off halfway through the last, didn't even know we missed after the siren till just now. How is it a war crime every ****ing week with this team, its actually getting worse :drunk:

Adam Cerra is such a strange player, obviously naturally gifted and can be quite skillful on occasion but you simply will not see a worse decision maker getting regular AFL games across the whole comp.

Matt Carroll is perplexing too, supposed to be one of our better kicks yet literally every time you think he'll be a league standard player within the next 10 mins he's missing a slight angle set shot 20m out on his preferred side, or spraying a close to 0 pressure forward 50 entry skyward/sideways. Can set ya watch to it.

Feel for Byrne, poor kid. Reckon he had some potential, hell of a way to get Carlton'd in your 4th game. Looks like we've already done the job on Jagga, doesn't take us long does it :rolleyes:
 
Everyone calling for Voss' head but after last night, Cripps can stand down too. I read Walsh was seen firing up at Elijah. Give him the captaincy. At least he hates losing and might fire a ticket up the players.
not for me, time to break the cycle. Give it to Florent or someone else we trade for this year for 12-24 months.

Too long we make our 'best' player the captain, not the best leader.
 
FMD, you're coming across as someone who can't understand something unless it's spelled out in a text book or peer-reviewed study for them.

His behavior was highly erratic, the club has asked the media to treat it with severe sensitivity, Voss admitted they had to manage him throughout the week, every movement from him out on the field points to a guy who's either on the gear or heavily coming off it. Yet you're trying to say it's a non-story, whilst the rest of the football world are in disbelief.

It could also be the behaviour of someone having a severe mental episode in front of 80,000 people.
 
The more I think about hollands, the worse our reality is. Reeks of lack of leadership and unprofessionalism. What a rotten club.

The lack of care for a player.

The lack of responsibility by anyone on field or off it, to let it continue.

The lack of accountability post match by Voss.

The lack of decency by our leadership players to get him off.

The lack of foresight by the medical staff to let him keep playing, and not take him to the rooms and get him sorted off camera.

The lack of professionalism by hollands to turn up like it. Drugs, anxiety, panic attack. Whatever it was. If he wasn't right he should have said something. That's why we have emergency players.

He has no sympathy from me, but our club also failed him last night and that's disgraceful.

We are a weak, broken club to allow any of it.

Everyone calling for Voss' head but after last night, Cripps can stand down too. I read Walsh was seen firing up at Elijah. Give him the captaincy. At least he hates losing and might fire a ticket up the players.
TBH if I'm GW I'm shopping Weitering, Walsh and Cripps around at the end of the year. And from what we know of GW previously this is something that has reasonable probability to transpire.
 

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Is that 5 of our players that have suffered concussions this year already.
Maybe if we had a gameplan where we actually run a bit more, create space and get separation from our opponents, we may lessen the chances of concussion

And I'm not talking about H. Our entire gameplan is based around kicking to a contest. No spread, no overlap run, no keeping fwd line clear, no leads.

Gameplan

Voss must go
 
Feel for Byrne, poor kid. Reckon he had some potential, hell of a way to get Carlton'd in your 4th game. Looks like we've already done the job on Jagga, doesn't take us long does it :rolleyes:
He missed a shot after the siren and now suddenly he "had" some potential? And Jagga clearly being managed but still had some massive moments especially in that third. Stood out.
 
Issue is they don’t seem to be coming from big knocks either. Very concerning
This was not a minor knock. Fist to the side of the H's head while running at full pace from a player running at full pace .

Not like say the instance in the final v Swan which was a head clash from 2 players running the same direction
 
There's a big difference between 'body language' and behaviour - behaviour which included flipping off team mates, sitting on an opposition player and then rolling backwards with a big grin on his face, ending up in the Collingwood huddle, and seemingly running aimlessly.

None of that is typical behaviour of a footballer. Regardless of the reason for it, whether it's being under the influence, a mental health break, or some other cause, he was not effective on the field and he appeared to be unwell.

For no one in the club to notice or take any action until the last quarter is grossly disappointing to me and, I believe, negligent. Far more disappointing than any loss in my opinion.
 
Cowan could play mid and be a tough tag but unfortunately our coaching panel doesn't have that type of imagination or foresight. Pathetic.
Agree
He should've been given the challenge of being Naicos' +1 for the game from last Monday
If it failed, so be it. I would've appreciated the imagination
Voss must go
 
What do you mean by 'elitism' ? Do you think it's some sort of class issue ?


Corporate elitism. and an "all about me" culture.
1. Priestley living in Sydney who rejects Mike Fitzpatrick as president
2. Priestey's wife on the Swans board where Curnow happens to land
3. Greig Williams appointed as paid director to sure up Luke Sayers Presidency
4. Sayers Attempting to change the constitution to win an extra yr.


I see the above reflected in the behaviour of Charlie Curnow, Sam Docherty, JSOS and currently where the board first priority is "itself" instead of "selflessness"
 

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