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Hypocrisy in the media is astounding

In the same paper they will criticise our handling of hollands’ mental health episode but have for weeks ( and still are) criticizsing the mental strength of the group cause they have coughed up big leads

They couldn’t give a **** about Lij or our other players’ mental health cause otherwise they wouldn’t be carrying on the way they are

They just care about tearing down the club

**** them
 
I generally think her reporting is credible, but it starts to lose weight when she leans into over-sensationalising certain points.

“Why didn’t Chris Davies or Graham Wright step in to overrule Voss and the coaches and prevent him from playing?”

“The Collingwood players saw him shank that kick in the warm-up” - that just doesn’t stack up.

“There are claims Collingwood players said he admitted to drinking” - yet she then concedes she couldn’t verify that directly, and is only raising it because Carlton didn’t explicitly rule out alcohol in their statement.

In such a sensitive situation to use it to dribble shit like that for her own jollies is just disgraceful. I forgot how much I hated her for a while there. Then it all comes back to me.

This is gutter of the gutter journalism.

She so desperately wants to stir controversy here that she's willing to throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.

She doesn't realise - whatever Carlton did or didn't do here pales in comparison to her own actions.

Carlton might have been negligent. She is malicious.
 

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Gotta say Caro Wilson is an absolute soulless ghoul. That Leigh Matthews and that other bloke sat next to her and let her run with this stuff is an indictment on them too.

"This is coming strongly from Collingwood players" but when questioned, she backs away and says she hasn't confirmed any of it??? Then why are you saying it you dried up sack of arse hair.


I only got 10 seconds into it. “It was a different sort of sick feeling…”, I couldn’t watch any more. Was Caroline saying that she felt sick? Because what I believe is the idiot would have been absolutely rapt to see Elijah in that state. She can get more clicks out of it and dress it up as concern.
 
In such a sensitive situation to use it to dribble shit like that for her own jollies is just disgraceful. I forgot how much I hated her for a while there. Then it all comes back to me.

This is gutter of the gutter journalism.

She so desperately wants to stir controversy here that she's willing to throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.

She doesn't realise - whatever Carlton did or didn't do here pales in comparison to her own actions.

Carlton might have been negligent. She is malicious.

I like that (bolded). Perfectly said.
 
I only got 10 seconds into it. “It was a different sort of sick feeling…”, I couldn’t watch any more. Was Caroline saying that she felt sick? Because what I believe is the idiot would have been absolutely rapt to see Elijah in that state. She can get more clicks out of it and dress it up as concern.

Yep. She's a ghoul. As I say - can't believe Lethal sat next to her and let it pass. Should have been called out in real time.
 
The whole crowd didn’t know, that’s just a rubbish statement.
I sat there aware he was statless saying to my family it’s actually a really difficult thing to do, aware that teammates were completely ignoring him even though he was miles in the clear on multiple occasions and being angry about it but only became aware of the situation when I got home and read it on here.
Need to interview each and every player from both sides... the umpires too frankly.

All have a duty of care (as does the Club etc.).

This was more than just a failure by Voss and co.
 
Yeah that's most likely what she's basing it off. Either verify it or shut up.

Yep, that’s where I am at. Either verify it or don't speculate.

These media personalities can’t say “Well, the club never ruled out alcohol, so you have to wonder if Elijah consumed alcohol.” That’s not how an AFL club statement works. No club will sign off with

“Oh, by the way… Elijah Hollands didn’t drink any alcohol before the game.”
 
Maybe we don’t rate the assistants?

Assistants are running game day atm…
Not to blow my own tr...um hoof,
But I too am a Horse - and could if asked

*Take players for a ride around the field
*Show them evasive tactics
*How to buck up when needed
*When and how to gallop in 4th q's
*The difference between small and big sticks.
*How to aim a good solid kick.

Stables phone is usually free.🐎🌿
 
Does anyone on here have any experience with alcoholics and the tricks they use to hide their addiction?
I do and it doesn’t surprise me in the least what Caro has said. I’ve been told similar, 2nd hand but I’ve no reason to dismiss it. Happy to PM a Mod with details if necessary

His eyes were bloodshot too. That can happen with alcohol, though also lack of sleep which was brought up.

Anyway I'm not sure why anyone is attacking Caro. If he said that to Pies players its pretty damning. Could he have made it up? Sure. Possible if going going through some type if episode. But it would be an odd lie since its such a bad look.

Ideally for the sake of Elijah, this would all be dealt with privately. But after we let that happen in front of 80,000 people the gennie is out of the bottle. Let's not kid ourselves. No way to brush this under the carpet. We need to be realists.

The club and Elijah (depending on the circumstances), only have themselves to blame for that.
 
Voss presser repeating umpteen times that lij felt like he let team down…

Did he ever consider that he let lij down …big time ???

This guy is so far out of his depth it’s not funny.
First he said that Elijah felt he had let Voss down,
 

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Not to blow my own tr...um hoof,
But I too am a Horse - and could if asked

*Take players for a ride around the field
*Show them evasive tactics
*How to buck up when needed
*When and how to gallop in 4th q's
*The difference between small and big sticks.
*How to aim a good solid kick.

Stables phone is usually free.🐎🌿

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Anyway I'm not sure why anyone is attacking Caro. If he said that to Pies players its pretty damning.
Why didn't the Pies players say anything at the time? Did they say anything?

Caro is trading a snippet of information to get her thread into the fabric of the story.

Could he have made it up? Sure. Possible if going going through some type if episode. But it would be an odd lie since it's such a bad look.
If the alternative is worse, people can say things like that to mask the truth. Shifting the cause of behaviour into a realm where it's more acceptable. But we don't know either way.
 
For almost 60 years I've been following this club and this is the lowest point I can ever remember. Even during the salary cap scandal I kidded myself we weren't the only club doing it and at least we were trying to keep a very good batch of players together.

But now, I have nothing to hang my hat on. It's been like watching a slow moving train wreck over the last few years and on Thursday night that train just found another gear.

I don't know what will or even what should happen from here but I do know that for the first time I am embarrassed to say I support the Carlton Football Club. I've been getting more and more disinterested in our games and Thursday might just have tipped me over the edge. Pretty sure I now don't give a **** about Carlton and I'm starting to worry that i never will again.
 
Caroline is pretty much completely irrelevant these days, no one cares about her “inside” political gossip any more.
She has been completely phased out & replaced in the media.
It actually pretty sad that she thought she had to throw this mud - if the Caro from 10yrs ago saw the shit she was producing now, I think she would be ashamed of herself.
 

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I really do find it difficult to believe that if he had been drinking that no one noticed, team mates, coaches, medical staff, others even his brother. That Collingwood footage could be ‘looks like he’s been drinking’
 
She is as you say - but unfortunately her mail is correct - that she chose to air it means your description of her is correct.

Which is why I mentioned in an other thread she won’t let this go till the AFL penalise us our access to Cody Walker.
What the …?

Sorry but that’s rubbish on two fronts - you have no idea why the C’wood players said, let alone if it was truth.

AFL penalising CFC somehow by stopping access to Cody is creative (putting it nicely) thinking of the highest order.
 
Hope lij is ok but it’s very hard to deal with even if you do know… we had a guy at our work with mental health issues and came in one day and thought he was working at nasa and we pulled him aside and called the Cat team but we knew … have also had a friend which we didn’t know and took us a while to figure it out … wasn’t a quick fix .. for all Carlton knew lij was a coke and drunk so they had no clue of the the mental health issues going on .. dude rocks up to play and Carlton for all their knowledge dealt with it the best they could…it’s the first time it’s happened , remember that … dealing with someone going through an episode is probably the hardest thing to deal with !!! I have been there.. everyone needs to chill
It’s not the first time. He openly admitted he had an episode against Sydney last year.

I have spent years managing teams big and small and agree mental health issues are incredibly challenging to mange in a workplace … but it’s part of the responsibility you take as a leader.

There’s lots of people with important titles and roles at the footy club … where were our leaders on Thursday night?
 
The whole crowd didn’t know, that’s just a rubbish statement.
I sat there aware he was statless saying to my family it’s actually a really difficult thing to do, aware that teammates were completely ignoring him even though he was miles in the clear on multiple occasions and being angry about it but only became aware of the situation when I got home and read it on here.
You are spot on. It’s very easy to see what happened after the fact.

If it was that obvious to all, why was it not mentioned during the game. Not that I kept up with every comment of the “in game” thread but I can’t recall it being mentioned.

Don’t recall it being mentioned during the game by TV commentators either.

My concern during the game was no stats, even said to my wife if Hollands kicks 2 goals in the last we will win.
 

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