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Hes arguably the form player in the comp this year or at least the most valuableRuck - Jackson![]()
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Hes arguably the form player in the comp this year or at least the most valuableRuck - Jackson![]()
Hes in AA form. I just want him to clean up with the dropped fumble marks ets. But Hes def in discussionRegarding Aliir Aliir
Ranks No.2 in the League for marks (10 per game), contested marks (2.4 per game), intercept marks (4.1 per game) and intercept possessions (9.1 per game).
This bloke is clearly in the top few key defenders in the league, AA lock at this point of the season, would have to be.
Is your model rank for the season ir rolling 40 games and how far back? Is it adjusted for games.2026 All-Australian Team - updated from Round 6
As some of you may know, I have a player rankings model which weights the most important metrics to winning football.
This version is model purity first, with enough positional honesty that it doesn’t look silly. It keeps every player currently ranked 1 to 20, then adds the required defensive structure: two key defenders and one genuine small/general defender.
Line Position Player Team Model Rank Role Note B BP Jack Sinclair St Kilda 41 Genuine general defender B FB Callum Wilkie St Kilda 58 Key defender B BP Nick Blakey Sydney 18 Attacking defender HB HBF Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera St Kilda 4 High half-back / wing distributor HB CHB Aliir Aliir Port Adelaide 63 Key defender HB HBF Max Holmes Geelong 12 Wing / half-back transition C W Bailey Smith Geelong 9 Midfielder C C Isaac Heeney Sydney 5 Midfielder C W Justin McInerney Sydney 7 Midfielder / wing HF HFF Christian Petracca Gold Coast 3 Mid-forward HF CHF Josh Treacy Fremantle 11 Key forward HF HFF Shai Bolton Fremantle 6 Mid-forward F FP Nick Watson Hawthorn 13 General forward F FF Jeremy Cameron Geelong 20 Key forward F FP Charlie Cameron Brisbane 16 General forward FOLL R Max Gawn Melbourne 19 Ruck FOLL RR Marcus Bontempelli Western Bulldogs 2 Midfielder FOLL RO Kysaiah Pickett Melbourne 1 Midfielder / forward impact INT INT Zac Bailey Brisbane 8 Mid-forward INT INT Jason Horne-Francis Port Adelaide 10 Mid-forward INT INT Nick Daicos Collingwood 14 Midfielder INT INT Zak Butters Port Adelaide 15 Midfielder INT INT Connor Macdonald Hawthorn 17 General forward / high forward
Changes from the Round 6 version
In Out Jack Sinclair Harris Andrews Aliir Aliir Jack Ginnivan Jeremy Cameron Luke Davies-Uniacke Charlie Cameron Caleb Serong Connor Macdonald Josh Rachele
Main positional changes
Player Round 6 Role Updated Role Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera Back pocket Half-back Isaac Heeney Centre half-forward Centre Shai Bolton Interchange Half-forward Kysaiah Pickett Forward pocket Rover Nick Daicos Rover Interchange Zac Bailey Half-forward Interchange
Reasoning for the week
The biggest adjustment is defensive balance.
The previous version was probably too loose positionally. It had elite players everywhere, but it was light on genuine defensive structure. This version fixes that by adding two proper key defenders in Wilkie and Aliir, plus Sinclair as a genuine general defender.
NWM is the tricky one. He is not really a pure defender. He is more wing / high half-back / transition midfielder. But half-back is a fair compromise because he has a slightly defensive field position, provides rebound, and fits the modern attacking half-back role.
Player Rank Position AFP Read NWM 4 Midfielder -3.6 Wing / high half-back / transition mid Max Holmes 12 Midfielder -13.3 Wing / half-back-ish Nick Blakey 18 Gen. Defender -19.4 Real attacking defender Jack Sinclair 41 Gen. Defender -27.9 Real defender Wayne Milera 47 Gen. Defender -27.4 Real defender
So yes, Milera is more of a true defender than NWM. But if the aim is model-first selection, NWM at half-back is defensible.
The forward line also makes more sense now. Treacy plays CHF, Jeremy Cameron gives the side a proper full-forward, and Charlie Cameron comes in as the small forward after leading the goals plus assists table.
King and Gunston are still close to the discussion because they fit the traditional full-forward role, but the model is not just counting goals. Cameron gives more all-round value in this version.
Final read
Is your model rank for the season ir rolling 40 games and how far back? Is it adjusted for games.
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Missing 3 games for a start hurts the talk in terms of 'rolling'.Genuine question.
Xerri's clearance and contested possession averages lead the competition. For a ruckman that is just WOW. I can't believe he isn't spoken about as a lock so far. Jackson has all the tools including forward craft so if your picking a side would take him number 1.
5 on the bench means X has to the 2nd ruck on current form. Maybe its because he plays for North i don't know. If it was your ruckman putting up these numbers, and having this effect, how would you see it?

Amazed you're the first to have brought him up.I think we need to see more Jack Crisp in teams.
Apparently, he is ranked No 2 for wingman in 2026 according to Champion Data ratings.
So it must be true![]()
AA being about universal positivity for the AFL, why he missed 3 games will be a bigger reason than the actual number missedMissing 3 games for a start hurts the talk in terms of 'rolling'.
Maybe by the end of the season who knows. Right now he is top 5 but I wouldn't have him 1, 2 or 3
I think we need to see more Jack Crisp in teams.
Apparently, he is ranked No 2 for wingman in 2026 according to Champion Data ratings.
So it must be true![]()
Only the masterminds of CD know how to read the tea leaves and conjure up their reasoning with how they come up with their ratings.The question is what defines a wingman? Crisp has a attended nearly a quarter or centre bounces this year, and tends to cover most of the ground like a rover.
Only the masterminds of CD know how to read the tea leaves and conjure up their reasoning with how they come up with their ratings.
I love Crispy but I cannot come to any conclusion where he is No 2 in any particular position.
As a genuine ruckmen I’m picking him last out of all of Gawn, Grundy, Jackson.Genuine question.
Xerri's clearance and contested possession averages lead the competition. For a ruckman that is just WOW. I can't believe he isn't spoken about as a lock so far. Jackson has all the tools including forward craft so if your picking a side would take him number 1.
5 on the bench means X has to the 2nd ruck on current form. Maybe its because he plays for North i don't know. If it was your ruckman putting up these numbers, and having this effect, how would you see it?
As far as genuine wingmen, Crisp has often been up there. But outside of 2023, they are very rarely even in consideration. Stoppage midfielders get the nod on the wings. I haven't seen the breakdown on Crisp this season for wing vs midfield minutes. He does move around a fair bit.I think we need to see more Jack Crisp in teams.
Apparently, he is ranked No 2 for wingman in 2026 according to Champion Data ratings.
So it must be true![]()
As far as genuine wingmen, Crisp has often been up there. But outside of 2023, they are very rarely even in consideration. Stoppage midfielders get the nod on the wings. I haven't seen the breakdown on Crisp this season for wing vs midfield minutes. He does move around a fair bit.
| Rank | Player | Team | Score | Overall Rank | CBA % | AFP | Disp | MG | I50 | R50 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Brayden Cook | Adelaide | 0.381 | 65 | 0.0 | -12.1 | 17.6 | 380 | 2.5 | 2.4 |
| 2 | Jase Burgoyne | Port Adelaide | 0.259 | 109 | 5.8 | -6.1 | 19.4 | 285 | 3.3 | 1.6 |
| 3 | Jack Bowes | Geelong | 0.252 | 112 | 9.7 | +2.9 | 18.2 | 318 | 3.6 | 0.6 |
| 4 | Jarrod Berry | Brisbane | 0.208 | 131 | 9.2 | -12.6 | 19.0 | 353 | 2.8 | 2.2 |
| 5 | Matt Roberts | Sydney | 0.205 | 133 | 0.0 | -8.4 | 20.1 | 444 | 3.9 | 2.1 |
| 6 | Lachie Weller | Gold Coast | 0.178 | 141 | 0.0 | -6.7 | 16.4 | 378 | 2.9 | 1.8 |
| 7 | Bradley Hill | St Kilda | 0.164 | 151 | 0.0 | -16.4 | 23.1 | 465 | 3.8 | 2.4 |
| 8 | Matthew Carroll | Carlton | 0.162 | 152 | 0.0 | -3.9 | 16.0 | 378 | 3.6 | 1.9 |
| 9 | Massimo D’Ambrosio | Hawthorn | 0.158 | 155 | 0.0 | -8.6 | 18.7 | 424 | 3.3 | 1.8 |
| 10 | Ed Langdon | Melbourne | 0.148 | 162 | 0.0 | -12.6 | 18.4 | 267 | 2.3 | 2.5 |
| 11 | Harvey Thomas | GWS | 0.145 | 164 | 0.0 | -7.8 | 20.1 | 279 | 2.6 | 2.3 |
| 12 | Bailey Williams | Western Bulldogs | 0.139 | 168 | 0.0 | -13.4 | 21.4 | 381 | 2.5 | 2.3 |
| 13 | Oliver Dempsey | Geelong | 0.130 | 170 | 1.2 | +10.8 | 17.5 | 255 | 2.3 | 1.0 |
| 14 | Harvey Langford | Melbourne | 0.121 | 173 | 3.0 | +8.7 | 15.3 | 293 | 2.4 | 0.5 |
| 15 | Mason Wood | St Kilda | 0.121 | 174 | 0.0 | -2.8 | 15.4 | 274 | 2.6 | 1.3 |
| 16 | Ryan Maric | West Coast | 0.072 | 200 | 0.0 | -13.5 | 19.3 | 331 | 2.3 | 0.7 |
| 17 | Bruce Reville | Brisbane | 0.058 | 205 | 0.0 | -1.9 | 15.3 | 367 | 3.8 | 1.3 |
| 18 | Josh Weddle | Hawthorn | 0.049 | 212 | 5.5 | -4.4 | 15.6 | 328 | 3.4 | 1.9 |
| 19 | Jai Culley | Melbourne | 0.021 | 232 | 9.2 | +4.8 | 12.3 | 191 | 2.0 | 0.6 |
| 20 | Tom Blamires | North Melbourne | 0.015 | 236 | 0.0 | -17.5 | 18.4 | 339 | 2.7 | 2.4 |
Yeah I do understand the rationale generally. Although in the past I also think Isaac Smith, Duncan, Crisp and McCluggage (before the midfield move) did actually have outstanding seasons on the wing without real AA consideration. To a lesser degree, Massimo, Dempsey, N.Martin, Menegola, B.Hill (Hawthorn), Sidebottom and Embley had some pretty good wing seasons too.That's because pure-wingmen aren't that impactful in the modern game. There are no Dipper or Flower type players truly being best on ground.
Top 20 Wingmen Global Model Score
Criteria:
Position = Midfielder
Centre bounce attendance ≤ 15%
Average Field Position between -20 and +12
3+ matches
That AFP band keeps them in the wing corridor: not deep defenders, not permanent forwards. Minus AFP = more defensive-side wing. Plus AFP = more forward-side wing.
Rank Player Team Score Overall Rank CBA % AFP Disp MG I50 R50 1 Brayden Cook Adelaide 0.381 65 0.0 -12.1 17.6 380 2.5 2.4 2 Jase Burgoyne Port Adelaide 0.259 109 5.8 -6.1 19.4 285 3.3 1.6 3 Jack Bowes Geelong 0.252 112 9.7 +2.9 18.2 318 3.6 0.6 4 Jarrod Berry Brisbane 0.208 131 9.2 -12.6 19.0 353 2.8 2.2 5 Matt Roberts Sydney 0.205 133 0.0 -8.4 20.1 444 3.9 2.1 6 Lachie Weller Gold Coast 0.178 141 0.0 -6.7 16.4 378 2.9 1.8 7 Bradley Hill St Kilda 0.164 151 0.0 -16.4 23.1 465 3.8 2.4 8 Matthew Carroll Carlton 0.162 152 0.0 -3.9 16.0 378 3.6 1.9 9 Massimo D’Ambrosio Hawthorn 0.158 155 0.0 -8.6 18.7 424 3.3 1.8 10 Ed Langdon Melbourne 0.148 162 0.0 -12.6 18.4 267 2.3 2.5 11 Harvey Thomas GWS 0.145 164 0.0 -7.8 20.1 279 2.6 2.3 12 Bailey Williams Western Bulldogs 0.139 168 0.0 -13.4 21.4 381 2.5 2.3 13 Oliver Dempsey Geelong 0.130 170 1.2 +10.8 17.5 255 2.3 1.0 14 Harvey Langford Melbourne 0.121 173 3.0 +8.7 15.3 293 2.4 0.5 15 Mason Wood St Kilda 0.121 174 0.0 -2.8 15.4 274 2.6 1.3 16 Ryan Maric West Coast 0.072 200 0.0 -13.5 19.3 331 2.3 0.7 17 Bruce Reville Brisbane 0.058 205 0.0 -1.9 15.3 367 3.8 1.3 18 Josh Weddle Hawthorn 0.049 212 5.5 -4.4 15.6 328 3.4 1.9 19 Jai Culley Melbourne 0.021 232 9.2 +4.8 12.3 191 2.0 0.6 20 Tom Blamires North Melbourne 0.015 236 0.0 -17.5 18.4 339 2.7 2.4
Brayden Cook is the best rated but is ranked 65th, so he wouldn't even make the squad. To be fair, most of the top mids can play pure wing if asked and would also perform better, but they're so valuable they're needed around the ball.
Speaking of genuine, I think there are more true mid/forwards this year to choose from.As far as genuine wingmen, Crisp has often been up there. But outside of 2023, they are very rarely even in consideration. Stoppage midfielders get the nod on the wings. I haven't seen the breakdown on Crisp this season for wing vs midfield minutes. He does move around a fair bit.
''may be a lock''Luke Jackson may be a lock for the ruck spot at this rate.
I do but I'm going to choose to ignore it.''may be a lock''
Do you understand the problem with this phrasing ?
2 rucks is fine with the extended bench. Jackson as the utility/university corn, Grundy or Gawn as the more conventional ruck. It's probably Grundy at the moment.
2 for me.can easily pick 3, not saying they will but Jackson on the HF line or HFF isn't the worst. They did pick Nic Nat there one year.
There has been a lot less forwards that are saying please pick me, King probably gets in via default, and would it be Naughton? Apart from that yikes. Don't say Bont or Heeney, I swear to goodness sakes no...which of course means they plonk them there. Trac they more likely pick on one HFF line.