Training 2026 Training Reports

[ferball]

Wikipedia is 1000x better than any AI.

 

[Ura]

Friday Sim game… wants.

1. No injuries!!! Self explanatory. I don’t want a Banch and Chom coming together though I concede it’s good intensity.

2. Good pressure around the ball and continued pressure when the ball does get out of the contest.

3. Good ball movement. I want pressure. But also want to see players skills involve hitting up targets well.

From a player POV

Goater to run out well and show confidence in his body. I think last sim he had started to show this.

JK, Banch and Dov to continue to push eachother for best 23 spots. All 3 have show good skills I probably have Dov, JK then Banch.

Duurs to show some of that swagger and Confidence he had when he started with us. Get abit more of the ball.

Continued growth from Matlock, Dawson and Goad. These 3 are really important for our growth.

Pipe dream but still a wish. Dawson to start pushing Pink or Logue to take there spot…

 

[Rod Stroker]

Friday Sim game… wants.

1. No injuries!!! Self explanatory. I don’t want a Banch and Chom coming together though I concede it’s good intensity.

2. Good pressure around the ball and continued pressure when the ball does get out of the contest.

3. Good ball movement. I want pressure. But also want to see players skills involve hitting up targets well.

From a player POV

Goater to run out well and show confidence in his body. I think last sim he had started to show this.

JK, Banch and Dov to continue to push eachother for best 23 spots. All 3 have show good skills I probably have Dov, JK then Banch.

Duurs to show some of that swagger and Confidence he had when he started with us. Get abit more of the ball.

Continued growth from Matlock, Dawson and Goad. These 3 are really important for our growth.

Pipe dream but still a wish. Dawson to start pushing Pink or Logue to take there spot…

I'd like Urqs to play well, we need an inside bull with grunt who tackles, something we've lacked since Cunners. An animal around the ball, even more so with Wardlaw's body continuing to let him down.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Cats, Lions, Dockers, Crows the only teams I have little hope in North beating.

Confident we can grow from the lessons learned over the last decade and finally beat Dons, Dogs, Swans, Saints, Pies.

We should beat Richmond, Blues, WC, Dees comfortably.

Chalk us up for an 11 win season finishing 10th.

I'm not sure we'll rise that quick, but I'd take it. Think we'll be bottom 6 and around 8 wins.
Depends which Dockers turn up. If they move it quick they have too much talent for us, but slow they give you a chance.
I think there's a bit of a class gap between us and the Dogs, Crows and Swans in terms of talent.
Saints likely just a bit stronger than us given their new additions, but we should be in the game.
I actually think WCE game may be tougher than expected over there in Rd 2, but they are young, so who knows.
We just haven't done a very good job of closing out games when we probably should comfortably like the Blues @ MCG.
Sometimes you can catch a finals team at the right time and get an unexpected win, but we haven't closed those out.

 

[Tiberius]

never trust AI or wikipedia, both can be horribly inaccurate

I used to think this as well, but then I googled it and AI said that it was true, so now I don't believe it anymore.

 

[Makeshift Park]

never trust AI or wikipedia, both can be horribly inaccurate

I love wikipedia. Its the best of internet culture.

Both wiki and generative AI are only as good as their references. Even still, I use both nearly every day.

 

[Merlin007]

We need to beat those bottom 7 teams around our level like Blues, Dees, Tigers, WCE, Port,*
A good chance against Finals or fringe finals teams - Pies, Dockers, Saints, Crows (if in Melb).
Should be top 8 sides that are likely just too good for us - Lions, Cats, Dogs, Suns, Giants, Swans? Hawks?
Want to see us deep into games against those top 8 sides, maybe we pinch one if they have a poor one.

I know this won't satisfy anyone, but where I can see definite progress up a ladder is the VFL side. We'll be leaving out some good young players from the AFL side who could really take a step up (Urquhart, Whitlock, Dawson, Goad etc) and the recruiting has been outstanding imo

 

[ferball]

I love wikipedia. Its the best of internet culture.

Both wiki and generative AI are only as good as their references. Even still, I use both nearly every day.

That's true.

Generative AI is straight up evil tho. Steals people's work, drives up basic resource prices around data centres and is an environmental nightmare.

 

[Makeshift Park]

That's true.

Generative AI is straight up evil tho. Steals people's work, drives up basic resource prices around data centres and is an environmental nightmare.

I think AI is singled out a fair bit on the environmental front because its new, when in reality things like video streaming, mining bitcoin, and playing multiplayer games are pretty damn resource intensive too.

In the spirit of providing good citations:

One hour of streaming video uses about 66-77 watt hours of electricity (International Energy Agency & BBC).

Gemini uses about 0.24 watt hours per text prompt (Google). ChatGPT is reportedly around 0.3 per query. So if you were cranking out 40 prompts an hour that's about 12 watts.

One hour of video generation is obviously much more higher - can be into the hundreds of watt hours.

One hour of online gaming uses 34 - 410 watts for desktops, 11 - 158 watts for consoles (Californian Energy Commission).

So there's obviously a fair bit of variance depending on use case, but clearly text queries are not worse than popular online activities that already exist (and suck up shitloads of energy).

Having said all that, I'm skeptical about the motivations of the tech bros pioneering the technology. Sam Altman has some pretty kooky ideas about the human race. I wouldn't touch Grok and Musk is a reprehensible human.

Stealing copyrighted works is pretty shit too, but lets face it, exploiting content makers is how video and music streaming services became dominant too.

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Duurs trialing for the cats with a headband

Was gonna say Urqs looks a Cats player drafted at pick 60 who becomes an All Australian that torches us every year.

 

[ferball]

I think AI is singled out a fair bit on the environmental front because its new, when in reality things like video streaming, mining bitcoin, and playing multiplayer games are pretty damn resource intensive too.

In the spirit of providing good citations:

One hour of streaming video uses about 66-77 watt hours of electricity (International Energy Agency & BBC).

Gemini uses about 0.24 watt hours per text prompt (Google). ChatGPT is reportedly around 0.3 per query. So if you were cranking out 40 prompts an hour that's about 12 watts.

One hour of video generation is obviously much more higher - can be into the hundreds of watt hours.

One hour of online gaming uses 34 - 410 watts for laptops, 11 - 158 watts for consoles (Californian Energy Commission).

So there's obviously a fair bit of variance depending on use case, but clearly text queries are not worse than popular online activities that already exist (and suck up shitloads of energy).

Having said all that, I'm skeptical about the motivations of the tech bros pioneering the technology. Sam Altman has some pretty kooky ideas about the human race. I wouldn't touch Grok and Musk is a reprehensible human.

Stealing copyrighted works is pretty shit too, but lets face it, exploiting content makers is how video and music streaming services became dominant too.

Training takes more energy doesn't it?

But I don't disagree about the bolded.

 

[amaz199]

I'm actually relieved we didn't have AI during university. I think it would've killed any form of critical thinking which has become an issue in today's society.

Technology is supposed to challenge the mind not become a solutionism fest for people that are too lazy to understand the problem.

 

[DuckYeah]

I think AI is singled out a fair bit on the environmental front because its new

Do you understand how much water they use? Its something ridiculous of up to 20 million litres a day per data centre. Where are they getting the water from? Our reserves. AI is the most useless rubbish that anyone has come up with. Im in the group “ban all AI” but think the CSIRO should have access to it not the general public.

Maybe if they built their own desalination plants and their own pipelines, maybe I could get around the environmental thing. Maybe.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Training takes more energy doesn't it?

Totally. But AFAIK there's bugger all transparency when it comes to how much the likes of Google and OpenAI consume in doing that. (Could say the same about render farms for CGI in games too)

To vaguely bring it back to footy, cause we're in the preseason thread, I just asked Chatgpt to compare the energy consumption required for training GPT-4 with how much it takes to power the MCG for the entire month of September (busiest time of year).

It said if you use third-party estimates of how much energy GPT-4 took to train, it would be equivalent to about 14 MCG Septembers.

 

[year of the roo]

Take your AI horseshit elsewhere.

 

[giantroo]

Track watch: Roos midfielder leaves track with injury concern

Another Kangaroo looks to have picked up an ailment ahead of the new season.

www.zerohanger.com

 

[roos_fanatic08]

well that's fantastic....

 

[giantroo]

well that's fantastic....

He's back out there.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

He's back out there.

well that's fantastic....***in a far less sarcastic tone

 

[Chip Scab1]

Track watch: Roos midfielder leaves track with injury concern

Another Kangaroo looks to have picked up an ailment ahead of the new season.

www.zerohanger.com

Wow. Could it be the surface?

well that's fantastic....

Powell and McCartney down... what's another 2?

Just hope we get to Round 1 with some soldiers left.

 

[SnowRoo]

.Maybe if they built their own desalination plants and their own pipelines, maybe I could get around the environmental thing. Maybe.

Colossus II, will have its own water treatment plant. Literally cooled with recycled Hawthorn colours. Thats a pretty creative approach to the problem.

 

[toepoker]

Am I the only one who's mildly concerned with "track watchers" who love to jump online with every little scratch a player gets in a preseason training session making desperates like us fly into a panic?

 

[Masked Avenger]

I know this won't satisfy anyone, but where I can see definite progress up a ladder is the VFL side. We'll be leaving out some good young players from the AFL side who could really take a step up (Urquhart, Whitlock, Dawson, Goad etc) and the recruiting has been outstanding imo

I'm more hoping our VFL team will improve significantly on the back of McDonald, Darling, Fisher, Corr, Scott, CCJ, and Spargo playing regularly in the twos.

 

[Ether]

He's back out there.

Later in the session he pointed at his knee, then the football, a pigeon and three other north melbourne players. All were taken off for assessment and have had to be euthanised.

 

[the big lebowski]

Match ups are going to be interesting on Friday

No Xerri opens up the ruck. Goad obviously the number 1. CCJ was actually very good in the ruck in the limited minutes he played last week. Hopefully he gets more than half this week. Then Trembath and darling will fill in. Maybe even Dawson if he’s struggling down back again.

Mids might be looking light on in you don’t have Wardlaw, Urq’s and potentially Powell being managed.

Expect FOS to be fulltime mid. Maybe Kerch to have more than a cameo in the guts as well.