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This is a great list. I would also love the following.My mental meanderings post PF loss have been around ways we can improve, so I thought I'd put it out there for you all.
What I'd like to see coming into next year:
Love others to add their thoughts.
- Improved clearance ratios - goes without saying, there will be personnel changes of course but I'm hoping to see improvement from the youngsters. Ward, McKenzie and Buttler all have potential to step up another level.
- Day on the park consistently. Move heaven and earth to get his foot right.
- Weddle to become a dominant player.
- Team's maturity in their ability to absorb pressure and attain / hold territory during these periods.
- Strength over the ball. IMO this is an area Geelong really controlled the PF, they rarely lost their feet, and moved the ball to advantage to find a free player. This ties in with the first point.

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Ironically, we lost a game to Port Adelaide last year when he did precisely that. He tapped the ball clear rather than just drop it at his feet and lock the ball in. Time and placeAlso get Meeky to improve his taps to advantage, and get a bit more campaigner about him.
Well for starters we have to improve this below, or not let it be a thing in pressure games. Our ball handling was iffy at times in 2025, and it needs to improve. We were bottom 6 for 2025 in regards to 1st possession becoming a clearance.
Our rebound 50 rate is top 3 in the comp and our intercept possessions top 2, so we have done a lot right defensively. Add to this that we are the number 1 team for defensive 1v1 loss% and 2nd for defensive pressure acts.
What has dried up in our defensive end is our run and drive. I think we were sat on the closer we got to finals, and that our transition suffered.
For example, over the 2025 season we were rated 5th in the compm for scores from kick ins. Filter down to the last 10 games, and we were 17th.
It might surprise people to know we are below league average for ground ball gets in the F50, and I think that marries up with our intent for another small with pace and pressure(Butler?). 4th for tackles inside 50, 2nd for loose ball gets, but also 5th for groundball gets around the ground. We are doing a lot right it must be said.
We are bottom 4 for Hardball gets, but top 5 for contested possessions. 5th for Loose ball gets and 5th also for uncontested possessions. I think this is how we intend to play at this point. We don't want a contested game, we look to space, we look to get the ball on the outside and we like to play uncontested footy on our terms.
Bottom 6 for centre clearances(10th for stoppage clearances). Below league average for total clearances. This is a clear deficiency we need to address which we all know about.
3rd in the comp for marks inside 50, and 2nd for Marks inside 50 per Inside 50 and to add fuel to my point that I will get to, is that we are also top 5 for Scores from centre clearance.
In summary, and surprising no one, we need to improve in the middle.
We can score well from centre clearance, but we don't give ourselves enough chances to do so when we are bottom 6 for winning them.
Our potency inside 50 is a strength, but we also have improvement to be found when it comes to winning the ball on the deck.
A mid/forward hybrid is a necessity to my eyes, which we pretty much all already know. Someone who can win a clearance but also provide a marking option when resting forward.
The return of Day will also help with centre clearances, but he's likely going to be protected a little at times, so we need improvement regardless( 2 mids at trade week is pretty much a necessity IMO).
I'm not sure how we improve our ball handling at the stoppage, but whether its personnel or simply training more often with soapy footys it's a clear problem that I've observed, backed up by the stats.
Our midfield depth is a watch and we need to improve this too, but I still think Ward, MacKenzie and Butler can help out there.
Wishlist for 2026:
1-2 mids being added.
Marking forward.
Return of the speed and ground ball winning in the backhalf.
Another small forward.
Centre clearances.
Would you out of interest entertain Bobby Hill?Not really the thread for it. I think Wiz and Moorey are locked in and I'd like Butler to push his case. Competition for spots is not a bad thing at all.
Pretty much that is the expectation at this stage. But i'd imagine his pre-season will be about managed loads and constant monitoring. He missed the start of 2024 due to the issue, then came good and played out the year, then had a big preseason only to last just 4 games, then recover for 2 and out again.Just curious on what is the timeline for a Will Day return? Is he expected back for a full pre season and a round 1 return?
No point wishing for the moon.Consistent umpiring and match review findings would be nice
Yes! I think we need to make the opposition have to answer the question of how to manage Weddle, not play him as a negator.Weddle playing 15+ games on the wing/CHF or on the ball.
Get him out of the backline. Let him do his damage forward of centre.
Well for starters we have to improve this below, or not let it be a thing in pressure games. Our ball handling was iffy at times in 2025, and it needs to improve. We were bottom 6 for 2025 in regards to 1st possession becoming a clearance.
Our rebound 50 rate is top 3 in the comp and our intercept possessions top 2, so we have done a lot right defensively. Add to this that we are the number 1 team for defensive 1v1 loss% and 2nd for defensive pressure acts.
What has dried up in our defensive end is our run and drive. I think we were sat on the closer we got to finals, and that our transition suffered.
For example, over the 2025 season we were rated 5th in the compm for scores from kick ins. Filter down to the last 10 games, and we were 17th.
It might surprise people to know we are below league average for ground ball gets in the F50, and I think that marries up with our intent for another small with pace and pressure(Butler?). 4th for tackles inside 50, 2nd for loose ball gets, but also 5th for groundball gets around the ground. We are doing a lot right it must be said.
We are bottom 4 for Hardball gets, but top 5 for contested possessions. 5th for Loose ball gets and 5th also for uncontested possessions. I think this is how we intend to play at this point. We don't want a contested game, we look to space, we look to get the ball on the outside and we like to play uncontested footy on our terms.
Bottom 6 for centre clearances(10th for stoppage clearances). Below league average for total clearances. This is a clear deficiency we need to address which we all know about.
3rd in the comp for marks inside 50, and 2nd for Marks inside 50 per Inside 50 and to add fuel to my point that I will get to, is that we are also top 5 for Scores from centre clearance.
In summary, and surprising no one, we need to improve in the middle.
We can score well from centre clearance, but we don't give ourselves enough chances to do so when we are bottom 6 for winning them.
Our potency inside 50 is a strength, but we also have improvement to be found when it comes to winning the ball on the deck.
A mid/forward hybrid is a necessity to my eyes, which we pretty much all already know. Someone who can win a clearance but also provide a marking option when resting forward.
The return of Day will also help with centre clearances, but he's likely going to be protected a little at times, so we need improvement regardless( 2 mids at trade week is pretty much a necessity IMO).
I'm not sure how we improve our ball handling at the stoppage, but whether its personnel or simply training more often with soapy footys it's a clear problem that I've observed, backed up by the stats.
Our midfield depth is a watch and we need to improve this too, but I still think Ward, MacKenzie and Butler can help out there.
Wishlist for 2026:
1-2 mids being added.
Marking forward.
Return of the speed and ground ball winning in the backhalf.
Another small forward.
Centre clearances.
I do wonder if we would consider doing what Port did with Rozee and shifting him to half back, but it's not as if we're bereft of good distributors off half back.1: Mitch Lewis to play like Riley Tilthorpe.
2: A Fit Will Day either at HB, HF or wing, keep him away from the midfield to protect him.
3: Top 4 finish.
4: An Absolute killer instinct...make a statement...win enough games to rotate like the cats do.
5: Bring back the unsociable hawks...we're better with abit of mongrel about the club.