Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

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You made me google a little more..

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/2015-2016 CBA FINAL.pdf

No AFL Club shall exchange any Player unless the Player has been given as much notice as possible by the AFL Club of its intention to trade without any duress being applied by the AFL Club, its employees or agents to the player and the Player genuinely consents to the trade.
Yes I noticed this and think it's about as good as it gets. Other rules from the AFL clearly state about the clubs having to sign forms but here it doesn't which is far different than I thought it would be. It's one of those AFL "fuzzy" rules which indicates to me it's one of those laws that's more in the fashion of "spirit of the game" than explicitly written. I think it leaves it open to the power being with the AFL more than the player if the AFL (for example in mediation) thinks the player is being unreasonable.
 

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“We respect Carlton’s position . . . they feel Chris is worth a first-round pick.

“Obviously, in the initial stages, our first-round pick is either pick 12 this year, or you could look at future picks as well.

“We think he’s worth a pick around the 16-17 mark, perhaps even early 20s. But Carlton have asked for a first-rounder . . . We respect that and that’s what we’re working to do.”
Tigers football manager Dan Richardson on... Chris Yarran!

On my calculator that values JC at picks 1+2. Get in done Saints!
 
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Nah you've got me wrong - I don't underrate defenders - just think they are more "makeable" than mids or forwards so therefore aren't worth the same at draft time. History of the draft (and player contracts) is unambiguously on my side.

Best side in the comp for the last 20 years in reality had a Pick 71 (Lake) and Pick 7 rookie draft (Gibson) as their key defenders.

How many ordinary defenders have become forwards later in their career - not many - usually works the other way because of the simple fact that playing defence is easier than playing forward.

Come on down Zac Dawson.
Maybe. The bloke about to go pick 1 is a key back and he's never played a game of AFL
 

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Nah you've got me wrong - I don't underrate defenders - just think they are more "makeable" than mids or forwards so therefore aren't worth the same at draft time. History of the draft (and player contracts) is unambiguously on my side.

Best side in the comp for the last 20 years in reality had a Pick 71 (Lake) and Pick 7 rookie draft (Gibson) as their key defenders.

How many ordinary defenders have become forwards later in their career - not many - usually works the other way because of the simple fact that playing defence is easier than playing forward.

Come on down Zac Dawson.
How many have gone forward and kicked 8 goals in a game or taken 19 marks at CHF?
 

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You made me google a little more..

http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/2015-2016 CBA FINAL.pdf

No AFL Club shall exchange any Player unless the Player has been given as much notice as possible by the AFL Club of its intention to trade without any duress being applied by the AFL Club, its employees or agents to the player and the Player genuinely consents to the trade.
So you seriously don't think Jake will go to Hawks if this trade turns to crap? You're kidding yourself
 

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So you seriously don't think Jake will go to Hawks if this trade turns to crap? You're kidding yourself
You'll have to point out exactly where i said that? All i did was quote the CBA where it said a player must agree to the trade.

Don't assume something because of the team i support! It's any ones guess right now where he end up and for what.
 

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Carlisle took 13 marks playing at chf against Brisbane in 2010 when he was still 18 years old. A little prior to that he took 10 marks and kicked 3 goals in the 1st half on a wet and windy day at Williamstown. He can seriously play at a high level anywhere on the ground. The saints are attempting to commit daylight robbery.
 

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kelvin_sheedy clear/clean air mate, how's it smelling?[/QUOTE]
Smells like sunshine. No turbulence.

Just concentrate on football.

That is why it is a pity Jake could not be talked into staying a Bomber. Particularly given all this unreasonable StKilda crap.
 
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Im starting to like this pick 10 deal.
assuming it's this, Port would have to be nuts

Stk lose: pick 5
Stk gain: carlisle and PA 2016 1st rounder

GC lose: dixon
GC gain: pick 5

PA lose: pick 10 and 2016 1st rounder
PA gain: dixon

EFC lose: carlisle
EFC gain: pick 10
 

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assuming it's this, Port would have to be nuts

Stk lose: pick 5
Stk gain: carlisle and PA 2016 1st rounder

GC lose: dixon
GC gain: pick 5

PA lose: pick 10 and 2016 1st rounder
PA gain: dixon

EFC lose: carlisle
EFC gain: pick 10
Saints would have to give up something to go back to Port I imagine.
 
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