Player Watch #22 Nick Blakey

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Putrid 2020 for blakey
I thought he has been alright since going to the midfield / his return to seniors.

During those 5 games he has averaged 13.4 disposals, 2.6 marks, 2.6 tackles, 3.2 inside 50, 1.2 rebound (and missed 3.6 clearances) all at around 70% game time.
 
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I thought he has been alright since going to the midfield / his return to seniors.

During those 5 games he has averaged 13.4 disposals, 2.6 marks, 2.6 tackles, 3.2 inside 50, 1.2 rebound all at around 70% game time.
Agreed. His impact on games has been far better the last 5 weeks where he's taking far more inside midfield time than ever than his first 10 games which were terrible (understandable in some respect but also just not what is expected). Having so many injuries to talls this year really didn't help him to start the year as he was forced to play KPF rather than where he was doing really well at the end of last year (wing/midfield).
 

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I thought he has been alright since going to the midfield / his return to seniors.

During those 5 games he has averaged 13.4 disposals, 2.6 marks, 2.6 tackles, 3.2 inside 50, 1.2 rebound all at around 70% game time.
I thought he was the best of our youngsters against Melbourne, now one bad game later and he's back on the scrap-heap.

What I will say is he needs to eat steak. Steak for breakfast. Steak for lunch. Steak for dinner. And maybe a tartare for his midnight snack. Because the biggest thing restraining his capacity to play at the minute is just his body. It's not yet right for any of the positions we would like him to play.
 

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Agreed. His impact on games has been far better the last 5 weeks where he's taking far more inside midfield time than ever than his first 10 games which were terrible (understandable in some respect but also just not what is expected). Having so many injuries to talls this year really didn't help him to start the year as he was forced to play KPF rather than where he was doing really well at the end of last year (wing/midfield).
I agree. I think we forget this is only his second season, and a disjointed one at that.
 

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I thought he has been alright since going to the midfield / his return to seniors.

During those 5 games he has averaged 13.4 disposals, 2.6 marks, 2.6 tackles, 3.2 inside 50, 1.2 rebound (and missed 3.6 clearances) all at around 70% game time.
His stats lifted of late agreed

But for the hype he doesn’t look likely most of the time, does some stupid things

Just concerning for the great hope

I’m sure he will be better next year and yes agree last patch is better but the year as a whole is a d minus imo
 

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Let's rate him again when he ways more than 90kg. I'm convinced he will be a gun, he's shown signs already, but he's not physically ready yet. I think we tend to forget that most draftees take a few years to develop, kids like Rowell and Walsh are so rare because they are league ready. The vast majority of kids will fade in and out over a season. Especially the taller ones like Blakey who all of a sudden have to go up against grown men that are 25kg of pure muscle bigger than them. Especially when they don't have senior guys around them to take the number 1 and number 2 opponents.
 

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Is there a better defence Than he shouldn’t be a star yet?

He hasn’t deserved senior footy most of this year imo

I think he can be a star one day I like the tools he has but this year despite age weight etc etc is a disappointment imo

He got a contract extension before playing a game let’s not forget this, he is highly rated
 

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Is there a better defence Than he shouldn’t be a star yet?

He hasn’t deserved senior footy most of this year imo

I think he can be a star one day I like the tools he has but this year despite age weight etc etc is a disappointment imo

He got a contract extension before playing a game let’s not forget this, he is highly rated
What defense of Blakey are you looking for? He's a young KPF, they take time. That's the reality. Has he progressed as much as we would like this year? No. But there was a significant stretch where he was the tallest player that we had in the starting lineup, he had to carry a burden that not many players are ready for at his age so he struggled.
 

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What defense of Blakey are you looking for? He's a young KPF, they take time. That's the reality. Has he progressed as much as we would like this year? No. But there was a significant stretch where he was the tallest player that we had in the starting lineup, he had to carry a burden that not many players are ready for at his age so he struggled.

Something like what you wrote is more reasonable

I might Be to wary/worried about draft busts too, just not seeing star qualities much

Maybe I’m too harsh sorry
 

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Is there a better defence Than he shouldn’t be a star yet?

He hasn’t deserved senior footy most of this year imo

I think he can be a star one day I like the tools he has but this year despite age weight etc etc is a disappointment imo

He got a contract extension before playing a game let’s not forget this, he is highly rated
You keep going back to how highly he is rated though, he was a top 10 pick, he's meant to be a star, etc etc. Which tells me that your view is still being skewed by what you want him to be rather than just accepting what he currently is, which is a talented youngster who has had a pretty textbook case of the second year blues this year.

No use comparing him to the players he was drafted with as it's just way too early. If you looked at the top 10 players from that draft right now (let's say Walsh, Smith, Rozee, Butters, King, King, Rankine, Lukosius, Rowbottom and Duursma) I will almost bet my hat that at least half of those won't be the best 10 from that draft when it's looked back on in 5-10 years time. Some will fade, others will come out of nowhere, others will just take longer than others.
 

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You keep going back to how highly he is rated though, he was a top 10 pick, he's meant to be a star, etc etc. Which tells me that your view is still being skewed by what you want him to be rather than just accepting what he currently is, which is a talented youngster who has had a pretty textbook case of the second year blues this year.

No use comparing him to the players he was drafted with as it's just way too early. If you looked at the top 10 players from that draft right now (let's say Walsh, Smith, Rozee, Butters, King, King, Rankine, Lukosius, Rowbottom and Duursma) I will almost bet my hat that at least half of those won't be the best 10 from that draft when it's looked back on in 5-10 years time. Some will fade, others will come out of nowhere, others will just take longer than others.

He is highly touted and rated and is promoted by the club as such so Ok yes I except to see signs of it and I don’t see much of it

Seems not to have a position, seems to do stupid things and mis read the play the odd flash is good but I’m not that impressed , but ok maybe I am expecting star I’ll reconsider that

I definitely didn’t compare him to anyone though


Forgot what he should be could be eyc

This year is a pretty woeful year for an AFL player imo
 

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Here are the first two seasons of Blakey, Ben King, Charlie Curnow, Nick Reiwoldt, Nick Larkey, Josh Schache, and Lance Franklin. I could have picked any number of others but ultimately I felt they provided a decent sample of players with similar pedigree who were roaring successes, developing prospects, and one bust.

The reality is the numbers aren't that different across the board. Reiwoldt and Franklin started to move on in year 2, but those two are up in the discussion for greatest forwards of the 21st century and even then they didn't properly kick on until season 3 or 4. Schache I thought was a good example of a young skinny forward who had to develop in a forward line with zero senior support, and we all know how he turned out.

Blakey just needs time.
 

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He is highly touted and rated and is promoted by the club as such so Ok yes I except to see signs of it and I don’t see much of it

Seems not to have a position, seems to do stupid things and mis read the play the odd flash is good but I’m not that impressed , but ok maybe I am expecting star I’ll reconsider that

I definitely didn’t compare him to anyone though
I don't meant to psychoanalyse you here Kingy but you kind of are comparing him to others when you bring up that he's a top 10 pick. It implies you are expecting him to perform as one of the best kids in his draft like Rozee, Walsh etc are, and he is currently not.

I do agree with you on his form this year though. A few really impressive weeks aside, it's been a disappointing showing. I think two things need to happen if we are to ever get anything close to elite footy out of Blakey:

1. Needs to bulk up, obviously. Far too lean to be an inside mid, and far too lean to be a key position player either. If he doesn't change his body shape and size I am genuinely concerned he will continue to struggle to assert himself on games physically.

2. Needs to find his natural position and settle on it, and learn to nail it. Wing looks his best position like the GWS match, but even then he doesn't look a natural runner like say McInerney, who gets into space and wins easy balls. Blakey has to actually generate his run from the contest, which still relies on him being able to use his physicality and win some hard balls, which he struggles with.

In a nutshell I think he's a tricky prospect. We're gonna have to get a lot right with him as he has a lot more superstar-or-bust material than some of our other kids. But if we do get it right then he will be such a massive asset for us that pick 10 will look like a steal.
 

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I don't meant to psychoanalyse you here Kingy but you kind of are comparing him to others when you bring up that he's a top 10 pick. It implies you are expecting him to perform as one of the best kids in his draft like Rozee, Walsh etc are, and he is currently not.

I do agree with you on his form this year though. A few really impressive weeks aside, it's been a disappointing showing. I think two things need to happen if we are to ever get anything close to elite footy out of Blakey:

1. Needs to bulk up, obviously. Far too lean to be an inside mid, and far too lean to be a key position player either. If he doesn't change his body shape and size I am genuinely concerned he will continue to struggle to assert himself on games physically.

2. Needs to find his natural position and settle on it, and learn to nail it. Wing looks his best position like the GWS match, but even then he doesn't look a natural runner like say McInerney, who gets into space and wins easy balls. Blakey has to actually generate his run from the contest, which still relies on him being able to use his physicality and win some hard balls, which he struggles with.

In a nutshell I think he's a tricky prospect. We're gonna have to get a lot right with him as he has a lot more superstar-or-bust material than some of our other kids. But if we do get it right then he will be such a massive asset for us that pick 10 will look like a steal.
Some pre draft articles compared him to Nick Reiwoldt and so far I think that's a pretty good comparison/plan for how he should be developed. I definitely like him moving up into the middle to get the ball moving forward, providing inside 50's and kicking goals. I'm not so sure I like him as a pure winger as I think he can have more impact on a game at CHF.

Ideally, I'd have Heeney and Blakey on the HF line attacking from all angles, with McCartin or somebody like McDonald, McLean, Thilthorpe as a pure KPF providing the target for them. Throw in small forwards like Papley, Wicks, and Bell at their feet and that is a dangerous forward line.
 

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