AFL Toast 22 point win against Brisbane

[Mootsy]

We now take a long time to move the ball from defence to attack, gives the opposition plenty of time to get numbers back and cover up the empty space that our forwards should be leading into. Too much of our midfield and our half back plays reactive and not proactive in that they wait until the last minute to lead into space instead of pre-emptively creating that space for the next link in the chain to kick it to.

When the tigers beat us, they almost always had players right where they needed to be and we didn't.

Yesterday was a pretty textbook example of just that too, lost count of how many times we'd take an uncontested mark and instead of wheeling around and kicking or just playing on, we held up the play and waited for a perfect opportunity which never came.

Agree with others, yesterday we got out of jail. Even though we won, we still can't avoid going to pieces against inferior teams. That was well below the standard of football we brought to Geelong and GWS.

You would hope that behind doors, the coaches were going "what the hell was that". You'd think.

 

[Beerfish]

We now take a long time to move the ball from defence to attack, gives the opposition plenty of time to get numbers back and cover up the empty space that our forwards should be leading into. Too much of our midfield and our half back plays reactive and not proactive in that they wait until the last minute to lead into space instead of pre-emptively creating that space for the next link in the chain to kick it to.

When the tigers beat us, they almost always had players right where they needed to be and we didn't.

Yesterday was a pretty textbook example of just that too, lost count of how many times we'd take an uncontested mark and instead of wheeling around and kicking or just playing on, we held up the play and waited for a perfect opportunity which never came.

Agree with others, yesterday we got out of jail. Even though we won, we still can't avoid going to pieces against inferior teams. That was well below the standard of football we brought to Geelong and GWS.

We are also so slow to switch the ball that more often than not the opposition has already set up on the other side of the ground by the time we're ready to attack that side and we end up crabbing it back the other way for the inevitable turnover.

 

[DapperJong]

Maybe all we need is someone like a Caracalla type experience to come in and say, "This list will work", "This player is suited to this", "Shift this to there and it'll help". "No, try it this way".

Wtf

 

[Mootsy]

Wtf

aye

 

[Donakebab]

Does Essendon have a kicking/skills/precision coach or is it just something assumed for all assistant coaches to implement??

Because i gotta say, it's not all that great.

Our forward coaching needs to be training the players to lead the ball..

So frustrating.

Paul Corrigan is the forward coach and Mark Corrigan is the performance coach, so it would be covered by both of them.

St Kilda brought in Ben Dixon as a specific kicking/goal kicking coach and they have actually regressed. A specialist coach isn't needed for every aspect of the game, unless a player has serious mechanical problems with their kicking action that needs specific attention then it's probably best that they just get the okay from the high performance managers and medicos to kick more at training.

As for our structure and the lack of movement, it has been just about the most infuriating part of our season. Our inside 50 numbers are virtually identical to last year (averaged 0.1 more in 2017) yet our conversion rate from entries has gone from being one of the best to one of the worst. Yes a part of this is Joe being out, Raz missing a chunk of games etc, but our lack of leading movement further up the ground along with the slow ball movement has meant out F50 is so crowded that there's no space to lead into meaning hacked kicks to big packs. Maybe get Skippy to hand over his notebook from last year to Corrigan, he had it performing like a well oiled machine rather than the clunky Flintstones car we currently have.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Kudos to Brown for being skilful enough to kick the goal anyway, but his decision to run toward the boundary instead of the goalsquare has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a footy field.

 

[Eleven 38]

Kudos to Brown for being skilful enough to kick the goal anyway, but his decision to run toward the boundary instead of the goalsquare has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a footy field.

If I was coach and he missed that i would have benched him for the rest of the game.

 

[Beerfish]

Kudos to Brown for being skilful enough to kick the goal anyway, but his decision to run toward the boundary instead of the goalsquare has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a footy field.

I was unsure whether his smile after was '* yeah what a goal' or 'thank * that went through'.

 

[blitzer]

At least we are doing a hell of a lot better at winning the ball through the midfield. In fact our midfield as a whole has been tons better over the past month. It feels like our structures are a lot more solid and everyone is more confident in their roles and positioning.

Unfortunately the connection between our forward line and midfield still remains an issue but its certainly still easier to score if you don't have to rebound all the way from the back half all the time. Its also easier to get the ball into the hands of damaging players like Saad and McKenna to run off half back if the ball isn't always locked in our defensive 50.

Honestly we would have blown Brisbane out of the water if our guys could kick simple 30 metre kicks at goals and if our forward line was performing just a fraction better. 23 inside 50s in the 3rd quarter for 1 goal 7 is horrendous. I also reckon that our forward line as a whole was not desperate enough. Not desperate enough to bring the ball to ground and stop their intercept marks and not desperate enough to apply pressure to cause forward line turnovers.

From a list perspective we really lack guys that are accurate goal kickers. From the ones that play forward I would maybe say Tippa, Fantasia and Begley were pretty reliable/good. Green is OK. The rest are shockers. There's certainly no one that I would want to put my house on to kick a goal 30m straight in front. Makes me miss the days of Lloyd/Lucas - we used to expect them to kick straight from set shots outside 50.

 

[JayJ20]

3rd Quarters since round 5

Round 5 vs Collingwood
0.4

Round 6 vs Melbourne
1.2

Round 7 vs Hawthorn
0.1

Round 8 vs Carlton
2.5

Round 9 vs Geelong (Only win)
1.6

Round 10 vs GWS
1.5

Round 11 vs Richmond
1.1

Round 12 vs Brisbane
1.7

All up - 7.31

This is beyond a psychologist

 

[astrowizzle]

Some of our players need to work harder. End of the 3rd Quarter. Myers has the ball (bottom right). Bellchambers, AMT, Green and Stringer are all just standing with a hand in the air calling for the ball. Is this our set play for the forward line? No Leads, no movement and this went on for a while (Myers received the ball from Merret in the bottom left corner who also received no leads).
I am sorry to out these players, but it is just very lazy football.
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I was going to try and work out how to make it into a gif, but there was no need as no one was moving anyway.

PTY for mine. Made me laugh hard

 

[Darealrath]

Kudos to Brown for being skilful enough to kick the goal anyway, but his decision to run toward the boundary instead of the goalsquare has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a footy field.

He was on Geelong's list remember. That move was probably a staple of practise with Stevie J and GAJ.

 

[hotkorma]

Wtf

Is this your bestest opinion?

 

[DapperJong]

Is this your bestest opinion?

It actually is.

 

[Bombermania]

Kudos to Brown for being skilful enough to kick the goal anyway, but his decision to run toward the boundary instead of the goalsquare has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a footy field.

Not sure if anyone else did but as he did that, a mental picture of Jason came to mind, serious WTF was he doing, he had time and space to run towards goal.

I differently place it on the same level as Joey's handball from 10 meters out.

 

[Bombermania]

Some of our players need to work harder. End of the 3rd Quarter. Myers has the ball (bottom right). Bellchambers, AMT, Green and Stringer are all just standing with a hand in the air calling for the ball. Is this our set play for the forward line? No Leads, no movement and this went on for a while (Myers received the ball from Merret in the bottom left corner who also received no leads).
I am sorry to out these players, but it is just very lazy football.
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I was going to try and work out how to make it into a gif, but there was no need as no one was moving anyway.

That's been standard for years, so often I have seen us bringing the ball forward only to see forwards behind waving their arms for the ball, if you look at that screenshot, its poorly set up with little space for a forward to lead too, surely Woosha has a defender would be saying, hey guys as a defender I would love to play you forwards, not only do they over crowd the space but the lack of movement and the usually high floating kick forward play into defenders hands all day long.

 

[lenny2013]

Just noticed Hodge has been cleared for taking out Hep.

 

[Doss]

Just noticed Hodge has been cleared for taking out Hep.

As he should have been.

 

[Mercurial89]

As he should have been.

Its an embarrassment its even a question

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

I see your Harrison Andrews and Taylor Walker, and raise you Easton Wood.

Indeed!

 

[Eleven 38]

Just noticed Hodge has been cleared for taking out Hep.

Fair enough too. However I hope Heppell fines the whole team for not going in and standing up for him.

 

[Don35]

The positives from a largely wasted Sunday afternoon stroll around the Gabba.

Redman - don’t know if he’ll make it but showed enough to suggest he’s worth persisting with.

Stringer growing in confidence. Still waiting for the bomb to explode but competes and mega talent

We can automatically improve our side by taking brown out and replacing with fresh air his presence and effort is that non existent. His role playing ability of single half effort junk with the ball landing in his hands every now and then isn’t much different to plucking a bloke from the bush and telling him to stand there and hope for the best. Was at the game bemused watching him.

Winning with green in is another hats off to the other guys..

Plucking away with heppell going down was pleasing

The 10 odd b grade contributors didn’t reduce themselves to c and d grade contributors which ultimately was enough for the chocolates.

 

[Doss]

Redman - don’t know if he’ll make it but showed enough to suggest he’s worth persisting with.

I'd be stunned if he doesn't make it.

 

[Vander18]

Performance was blighted by horrific kicking for goal....plenty of positives I thought.

Redman was excellent - provides run and ball use plus some height. Guelfi was good and Langford was creative.

Midfield seems to be transitioning better defensively, unsurprising given we have more guys in there who can actually cover ground than we have for years.

Hurley beat his man all day and Zorko and Beams were well controlled - how many times have guys like that killed us in the past??

Forward line is the concern. Neither Smack nor Brown draw enough attention or create enough contests. We may need to look at Hooker forward until JD returns.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Another positive was McGrath, he was very good after quarter time. Took them on through the middle, good foot skills and good to see more kicks go forward rather than sideways. A real glimpse of what he can do for us in the mid going forward.