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Relax everybody.

Terry Tan has put a stop to it!

Wallace’s concerns with Saints’ reported Goldstein chase

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Terry Wallace can’t see how veteran North Melbourne ruckman Todd Goldstein would fit in at St Kilda, amid reported interest in the soon-to-be free agent. Goldstein, 30, is being monitored by the Saints who are looking to bolster its ruck stocks to support up-and-coming big man Rowan Marshall.

With the likes of Marshall, Tim Membrey, Josh Bruce, Max King and Paddy McCartin already on its books, Wallace says St Kilda would run the risk of becoming too top-heavy if they acquire the 2015 All-Australian. “I thought they’ve actually found their ruckman for the future. I think Rowan Marshall is really starting to grow and evolve as a player,” the AFL Hall of Famer told SEN Afternoons. “I can only think that St Kilda are looking to play tandem rucks … but how are they going to fit everyone in? “How would they be able to have Goldstein as their No.1 ruckman, have Rowan Marshall as your forward/ruck, then have (Tim) Membrey and (Josh) Bruce, who are the two key forwards at the moment? “You’re trying to bring Max King into the line-up in the next 12 months, and that’s not even accounting for Paddy McCartin. “There’s too many to be able to service.” Goldstein has played 223 games across a 13-year career with the Roos.
 
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I was one of the vocal opponents of trading Preuss ahead of Goldstein.

Well, while Melbourne do have Gawn and that's a big factor - Preuss has played 2 AFL games this year and the last month in the VFL.

Finding a really good ruckman isn't as easy as people think.

If allowing Todd free passage was almost certainly getting us say pick #3 (say if he was as good as James Frawley and we were as ****e as the 2014 demons..) then sure, I'd be listening.

But this isn't going to happen. The reward on offer is nowhere near enough to actively encourage this situation.
 

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I was one of the vocal opponents of trading Preuss ahead of Goldstein.

Well, while Melbourne do have Gawn and that's a big factor - Preuss has played 2 AFL games this year and the last month in the VFL.

Finding a really good ruckman isn't as easy as people think.

If allowing Todd free passage was almost certainly getting us say pick #3 (say if he was as good as James Frawley and we were as ****e as the 2014 demons..) then sure, I'd be listening.

But this isn't going to happen. The reward on offer is nowhere near enough to actively encourage this situation.
It's a salary cap pressure stunt.

StKilda doesn't want us getting a march on them again this year.
 
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Relax everybody.

Terry Tan has put a stop to it!

Wallace’s concerns with Saints’ reported Goldstein chase

By SEN

Terry Wallace can’t see how veteran North Melbourne ruckman Todd Goldstein would fit in at St Kilda, amid reported interest in the soon-to-be free agent. Goldstein, 30, is being monitored by the Saints who are looking to bolster its ruck stocks to support up-and-coming big man Rowan Marshall.

With the likes of Marshall, Tim Membrey, Josh Bruce, Max King and Paddy McCartin already on its books, Wallace says St Kilda would run the risk of becoming too top-heavy if they acquire the 2015 All-Australian. “I thought they’ve actually found their ruckman for the future. I think Rowan Marshall is really starting to grow and evolve as a player,” the AFL Hall of Famer told SEN Afternoons. “I can only think that St Kilda are looking to play tandem rucks … but how are they going to fit everyone in? “How would they be able to have Goldstein as their No.1 ruckman, have Rowan Marshall as your forward/ruck, then have (Tim) Membrey and (Josh) Bruce, who are the two key forwards at the moment? “You’re trying to bring Max King into the line-up in the next 12 months, and that’s not even accounting for Paddy McCartin. “There’s too many to be able to service.” Goldstein has played 223 games across a 13-year career with the Roos.
Crikey this will just make St Kilda chase him even harder. They've recently adopted a George Costanza-like "do the opposite of every Terry Wallace decision" strategy.
 

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Then we get him and someone else.

Goldstein is going ok, but is not the future.
he'll also be a lot cheaper than he was previously.

what do you propose instead? get a speccy pick as compo that probably won't amount to much? or try and trade in another ruckman that we'll have to pay overs for? the only ruckman better than goldy are gawn, grundy and possibly lycett - the rest of them are equal or worse.
 

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Is this Goldstein's manager playing funny buggers?

Goldstein has been good lately. Is he one of those 'contract on the line, time to pull the finger out' types of players?

If so, no need to rush the contract. A dawdling Goldstein is worth nothing to the team. We've seen that.

Let him keep playing for his contract. One-year contracts.
 

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Is this Goldstein's manager playing funny buggers?

Goldstein has been good lately. Is he one of those 'contract on the line, time to pull the finger out' types of players?

If so, no need to rush the contract. A dawdling Goldstein is worth nothing to the team. We've seen that.

Let him keep playing for his contract. One-year contracts.
Yep.Goldy has hit form when it most matters, the last year of his contract. Perceived rival interest gives his management leverage in contract negotiations.
 

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what do you propose instead? .
Dunno as I'm not sure who is available.

I think we should continue to prioritise building a quality, fast midfield.

I'm happy to keep him on a cheaper contract, but wouldn't fuss me at all if left

People have short memories. He's been very ordinary last couple of years overall.
 

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Dunno as I'm not sure who is available.

I think we should continue to prioritise building a quality, fast midfield.

I'm happy to keep him on a cheaper contract, but wouldn't fuss me at all if left

People have short memories. He's been very ordinary last couple of years overall.
was still solid last year, this year has been even better.

i think you've forgotten that he was AA in 2015, half of 2016 until his injuries. 2017 was a write off due to off-field issues and he was back in form in 2018, that's only about a season and a half of ordinary form - and most of that not due to injuries.

fast midfielders are good but goldy has been dishing up silver service to our mids in the last few weeks, was a major reason for the midfield domination and wins.
 

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i think you've forgotten that he was AA in 2015

the last few weeks, was a major reason for the midfield domination and wins.
2015 is 4 years ago.

Played against 2 teams without an AFL standard ruckman. He should have dominated.

As previous I'm happy to keep him. But there is no rush whatsoever to extend.
 

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2015 is 4 years ago.

Played against 2 teams without an AzfL standard ruckman. He should have dominated.
i love how you pick and choose what to reply to to suit your narrative, very much like a a polly.

he had a good 2018 and has had a great 2019 - also has a great tank that gives flexibility with other players and rotations.
 

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He's got attractive offers from rival parties - or he's certainly got interest from rival parties

Or in other words, I'm just making ***** up.

2015 is 4 years ago.

Played against 2 teams without an AFL standard ruckman. He should have dominated.

As previous I'm happy to keep him. But there is no rush whatsoever to extend.
Dominated like 28 possessions 7 marks and 57 hit outs?
 
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This rubbish is based upon the comments of a sacked coach:

"The Kangas are undertaking “a strategic shift,” as former coach Brad Scott put it."

One of the better space cadets on the Richmond board has the "inside word" that Cunnington is off to Tigerland next year.
Oh, I've gotta go and read this.
 
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