22 Under 22 - 2016

[Mitchell54]

My Team:

 

[Eagleboy2011]

My Team:
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3 Essendon player from a side that won 2 games.

 

[Apex36]

You are being ultra anti Essendon, you have even got Peter Wright in ahead of Daniher lol.

Merrett will be one of the first mids picked in this team, anyone leaving him out is absolutely clueless.

If Daniher wasn't the worst set shot at goal in history I'm sure he'd be a lock.

 

[The Prosecutor]

3 Essendon player from a side that won 2 games.

And? It's the AA, it's an under 22 team.

 

[LB#16]

3 Essendon player from a side that won 2 games.

That's got little to do with individual talent and effort of these players. They're some of the best in this age category.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

If Daniher wasn't the worst set shot at goal in history I'm sure he'd be a lock.

If Daniher was such a shit player you would've thought Moore or Wright or Stringer would've kicked more goals than him this season. Oh well.

 

[Apex36]

If Daniher was such a shit player you would've thought Moore or Wright or Stringer would've kicked more goals than him this season. Oh well.

Reading comprehension? I said he was a terrible set shot at goal, not a terrible player. I even said if he could kick straight he'd be a lock...

 

[LB#16]

If Daniher wasn't the worst set shot at goal in history I'm sure he'd be a lock.

He's not the worst shot in history. However, I can think of a bloke on your side who is.

 

[Apex36]

He's not the worst shot in history. However, I can think of a bloke on your side who is.

I'm fairly sure that Cloke never resorted to kicking snaps from set shots directly in front, but whatever floats your boat.

 

[LB#16]

I'm fairly sure that Cloke never resorted to kicking snaps from set shots directly in front, but whatever floats your boat.

Cloke just continues to stab at the ball and miss wide every time.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

Reading comprehension? I said he was a terrible set shot at goal, not a terrible player. I even said if he could kick straight he'd be a lock...

He's a lock regardless.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

I'm fairly sure that Cloke never resorted to kicking snaps from set shots directly in front, but whatever floats your boat.

I'm sure Daniher could've kicked a drop punt from 15m out. He's an excellent field kick but needs to realise he has a natural arc to his set shot ala Buddy Franklin. If he adapts to that he'll be a decent shot.

 

[Halftimehero]

If Daniher wasn't the worst set shot at goal in history I'm sure he'd be a lock.

How about worrying about what he has done rather than what he hasn't.

Taken the 3rd most contested marks in the league this year, well ahead of any of the under 22 players and has kicked 2 less goals than Hogan, well ahead of the rest of the under 22's

He already is a lock.

 

[Apex36]

He's a lock regardless.

Quite a few people seem to disagree.

Cloke just continues to stab at the ball and miss wide every time.

Yep. He's a rubbish set shot. He's not under 22 though, so he's kind of irrelevant to the discussion aside from being a deflection from Danihers god awful kicking by butt.hurt Essendon supporters.

 

[Apex36]

I'm sure Daniher could've kicked a drop punt from 15m out. He's an excellent field kick but needs to realise he has a natural arc to his set shot ala Buddy Franklin. If he adapts to that he'll be a decent shot.

And if he adapts he'll be a lock.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

Quite a few people seem to disagree.

Yep. He's a rubbish set shot. He's not under 22 though, so he's kind of irrelevant to the discussion aside from being a deflection from Danihers god awful kicking by butt.hurt Essendon supporters.

Disagree without any basis other than 'oh he's a shit set shot' and 'he plays for Essendon and they're shit'. Cloke was a well-deserved All-Australian despite being a shit shot at goal.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

And if he adapts he'll be a lock.

For AA centre half forward.

 

[LB#16]

Quite a few people seem to disagree.

Yep. He's a rubbish set shot. He's not under 22 though, so he's kind of irrelevant to the discussion aside from being a deflection from Danihers god awful kicking by butt.hurt Essendon supporters.

He's got plenty of time to work on his set shot. The fact that he's a bad set shot but the AFL made him available for this shows he's got everything else in check.

 

[Apex36]

Disagree without any basis other than 'oh he's a shit set shot' and 'he plays for Essendon and they're shit'. Cloke was a well-deserved All-Australian despite being a shit shot at goal.

I don't think that I ever said anything about Essendon being shit? You're just imagining things now...
Cloke probably could have snagged a couple more AA's if he wasn't such an awful set shot at goal. Funny that...

For AA centre half forward.

Lets hope for his sake he adapts then. At this point though, it looks like he's going to have a frustratingly Cloke-esque type career.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

I don't think that I ever said anything about Essendon being shit? You're just imagining things now...
Cloke probably could have snagged a couple more AA's if he wasn't such an awful set shot at goal. Funny that...

Lets hope for his sake he adapts then. At this point though, it looks like he's going to have a frustratingly Cloke-esque type career.

Not you but other posters have put forth that Essendon players aren't deserving of spots because of how many wins we've had this season. Daniher will do much more in his career than Cloke. Bookmark it.

 

[Apex36]

Not you but other posters have put forth that Essendon players aren't deserving of spots because of how many wins we've had this season. Daniher will do much more in his career than Cloke. Bookmark it.

I'm not sure why you even initially felt the need to include the 'Essendon are shit' bit in response to my post specifically, but at least you've backtracked. I agree that quality youth and wins for the season are mutually exclusive in this case.

If he can clean up his kicking I have no doubt he will end his career with a superior goal kicking ratio, but bookmarking that he'll be a best & fairest, AA, premiership winning forward is quite the call. He's a good player, but still has a long way to go, and has stiff competition given the number of quality key forwards who are emerging.

 

[robertg22]

Not you but other posters have put forth that Essendon players aren't deserving of spots because of how many wins we've had this season. Daniher will do much more in his career than Cloke. Bookmark it.

He's off to a slow start in that regard, by Joe's age Cloke already had a B&F in the bag in a side that narrowly missed out on making a grand final, whereas Joe couldn't even knock a star like Shaun McKernan out of your top 10 last year..

 

[Bomberblitzer]

He's off to a slow start in that regard, by Joe's age Cloke already had a B&F in the bag in a side that narrowly missed out on making a grand final, whereas Joe couldn't even knock a star like Shaun McKernan out of your top 10 last year..

Cloke was already near his best by that point in his career. Thanks to the type of player he his we won't see the best of Daniher until he is 27 or so - but it'll be worth the wait for Bomber fans.

 

[robertg22]

Cloke was already near his best by that point in his career.

Incorrect. Cloke was at his best in 2010 to 2013 which is a few years after that. 2011 and 2013 (his AA years) the standouts. 2007 was a bit of a surprise in that he won the B&F, but was very good in a good side. Joe has been OK in a poor side.

Thanks to the type of player he his we won't see the best of Daniher until he is 27 or so

I don't even know what this means.

 

[Bomberblitzer]

Incorrect. Cloke was at his best in 2010 to 2013 which is a few years after that. 2011 and 2013 (his AA years) the standouts. 2007 was a bit of a surprise in that he won the B&F, but was very good in a good side. Joe has been OK in a poor side.



I don't even know what this means.

I said 'near' his best, not that he was already peaking.

You see it all the time in tall, lanky, ruckman-like players. Many don't hit their best until they've filled out and become used to their size. Daniher is far from his best but once he puts on more muscle and gets used to being able to push his opponents around, he'll dominate. Already in 3rd for contested marks in the competition at 22.