Senior 23. Jacob Weitering - 2020 John Nicholls Medallist

juddanaught09 · Sep 24, 2020

theoneyed said:
Unlucky for Weiters, but if you look at the stats there's nothing between them. I can only say they got over the line due to making finals.

2020 Player Stats
# Player GM KI MK HB DI DA GL BH HO TK RB50 IF50 CL CG FF FA CP UP CM MI50 1% BO GA %P
23 Weitering, Jacob 17 146 74 42 188 11.1 1 17 63 18 5 36 13 13 87 97 15 128 1 1 96.6
31 Andrews, Harris 14 97 60 52 149 10.6 16 34 8 2 14 14 8 70 81 15 133 1 95.2
30 Moore, Darcy 16 130 79 85 215 13.4 13 57 19 3 36 12 11 73 122 12 1 112 6 1 91.7

At least Weiters hit the scoreboard.

thylacine60 · Sep 24, 2020

you idiot

Sea fog · Sep 25, 2020

I can understand the Blues fans feeling a bit miffed but Weitering is young enough to make plenty of AA teams. To be honest I thought that he and Moore could both have been in the team because Andrews effectively missed four matches and got towelled up by Hawkins and Tom Lynch. I don't know why he had to be an automatic selection which everyone seemed to think he was.

Judd1400 · Sep 25, 2020

Lace_Out said:
Ryan would be my 1st choice small forward, an absolute gun.

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No issue with ryan came home like a train.
Danger Bont half towards ?
Moore who plays more like a flanker whilst Roughead takes the big boys.
Weitering was stiff I had him the no 1 defender.
Andrews missed games and got smashed by Lynch.

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Sea fog · Sep 25, 2020

bluemahogany said:
Collingwood v West Coast earlier in the year. Moore getting beaten so badly by JJK they had to move him forward.

Think you should know though that most of the goals were kicked on Roughead and a couple on Scharenberg.

FRUMPY · Sep 25, 2020

ferrisb said:
Andrews and Moore had very good seasons. Better than Weiters? WTF would I know.

I don't watch enough non-carlton matches these days to be critical of the final AA side.

I do know that Weiterbot had an outstanding year, nullifying key forwards almost every single week.

HHe'll make plenty of AA teams over his career. Just be thankful he is as awesome as he is and the awards will look after themselves.

I dont watch enough games these days to know who was AA or not. But i have watched a lot of football over my life, especially when i was 15-30. I can tell what an AA quality season is like and Weitering had one. Was he better than Moore and Andrews, i dont know but there couldnt be much in it. The fact Andrews misses 3.5 games during the year tells me Weitering should have his spot. I cant see how anyone can be that much better than Weitering that they miss 18% of the season and still get in ahead of him.

FRUMPY · Sep 25, 2020

Sea fog said:
I can understand the Blues fans feeling a bit miffed but Weitering is young enough to make plenty of AA teams. To be honest I thought that he and Moore could both have been in the team because Andrews effectively missed four matches and got towelled up by Hawkins and Tom Lynch. I don't know why he had to be an automatic selection which everyone seemed to think he was.

Come on mate, dont be a colingwood supporter and make sense, we like to hate you guys

Bennyboy7777 · Sep 25, 2020

bigm386 said:
Even Sheppard???

Very odd

Would’ve thought Maynard over Sheppard and DBJ?

Sea fog · Sep 25, 2020

Bennyboy7777 said:
Would’ve though Maynard over Sheppard and DBJ?

Maynard was the only general defender to rate elite in all categories.

The Dominator7 · Sep 25, 2020

Could be the strangest AA team I’ve seen in a long while, no idea how they constructed it.

Weiters unlucky but Andrews, Moore and also Blicavs from the 40 man squad all had gun years too so well done to them. Next year son, when we start making the 8 you’ll be a lock!!!

The biggest WTF’s for me were reserved for the omissions of Maynard and Gunston...plus no wingmen (Menegola, McLugg, Walsh the top 3) no small fwd (Ryan for me is a bit of everything), 5 flanker/small DEF, 2 ruckmen (in a year where no-one really excelled) and the plethora of inside mids.

2020 just keeps delivering weird sh*t.

Faz 2000 · Sep 25, 2020

Sea fog said:
I can understand the Blues fans feeling a bit miffed but Weitering is young enough to make plenty of AA teams. To be honest I thought that he and Moore could both have been in the team because Andrews effectively missed four matches and got towelled up by Hawkins and Tom Lynch. I don't know why he had to be an automatic selection which everyone seemed to think he was.

Would have thought if the selectors went on the SEASON not so much reputation, could easily have gone Moore and Weitering, with a “hey, Andrews, you’re a gun and try not to get injured next time”.

But really for this role I think there were three guys, two spots, Weiters stiff but not screwed.

Ryan should have been in for sure. Huge year.

BTW I’m actually really glad they picked Adams, Petracca and some others who I really think DID have the best seasons in their position vs some more established “usual suspects”.

Opine · Sep 25, 2020

out of interest; who selected the selectors?

thylacine60 · Sep 26, 2020

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David King

@davidking34
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Sep 25

Selecting the 2020 All Australian team is a very difficult task, made harder by selecting players in positions they didn’t play. HFF and Wing roles are specialist positions they’ve failed to recognise. It’s not an opinion on a player, it’s on the position. Disappointing.

LanceRomance · Sep 26, 2020

Arr0w said:
Andrews and Moore are worthy recipients

Weits had a great year, continues to improve

Navy blue sunglasses on... Andrews missed too much of the season.

Arr0w · Sep 26, 2020

LanceRomance said:
Navy blue sunglasses on... Andrews missed too much of the season.

Doesn't diminish the quality of a player

LanceRomance · Sep 26, 2020

Arr0w said:
Doesn't diminish the quality of a player

Kreuzer played one half a game.

Arr0w · Sep 26, 2020

LanceRomance said:
Kreuzer played one half a game.

Interesting comparison

LanceRomance · Sep 26, 2020

Arr0w said:
Interesting comparison

Quality counts

Bennyboy7777 · Sep 27, 2020

Reckon these were the players most ripped off for AA: Maynard, Butler, Goldstein, and Pendlebury. Weitering is really stiff also. Papley had a pretty quiet second half of the season which cost him.

Faz 2000 · Oct 8, 2020

Arr0w said:
Doesn't diminish the quality of a player

Why wasn’t Buddy considered, then? Best forward in a long time.

Because it’s about this season only - the 2020 “body of work”. Andrews might have been the best but he did it for games less than the other options. Could easily have gone the other way.