Past #24: Levi Greenwood - officially traded to Collingwood FC for pick 25 (2014)

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Greenwood would take the heat off Cotchin, whose basically a lone hand on the inside, with a little help from Miles.
You won't get any argument there, we wouldn't be after him if there wasn't a clear benefit to our team. I just draw the distinction between him being a need vs a want at the cost of our first round pick. If we're talking second round pick, it probably elevates to a need, but like I said earlier that's not enough for what he's worth.

Second pick and swap of firsts? Maybe still not enough but that's why the questions was asked earlier about what it would realistically take given he almost walked out at his first offer and you can apparently easily replace him if he's gone.
 

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You won't get any argument there, we wouldn't be after him if there wasn't a clear benefit to our team. I just draw the distinction between him being a need vs a want at the cost of our first round pick. If we're talking second round pick, it probably elevates to a need, but like I said earlier that's not enough for what he's worth.

Second pick and swap of firsts? Maybe still not enough but that's why the questions was asked earlier about what it would realistically take given he almost walked out at his first offer and you can apparently easily replace him if he's gone.
IMO you need help on the inside.

Would you pick up a player at #11 that would give you the same sort of impact that Greenwood would?

I'm not sure they would.
 
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IMO you need help on the inside.

Would you pick up a player at #11 that would give you the same sort of impact that Greenwood would?

I'm not sure they would.
Not for at least 4 years, at least.

You don't draft the type of body Greenwood has. You can develop it, but then you need to get it used to senior footy.
 

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You won't get any argument there, we wouldn't be after him if there wasn't a clear benefit to our team. I just draw the distinction between him being a need vs a want at the cost of our first round pick. If we're talking second round pick, it probably elevates to a need, but like I said earlier that's not enough for what he's worth.

Second pick and swap of firsts? Maybe still not enough but that's why the questions was asked earlier about what it would realistically take given he almost walked out at his first offer and you can apparently easily replace him if he's gone.

From all reports he is on the borderline of signing with us and all things being equal he would stay.

If the Richmond deal becomes too good to refuse, he may WANT to go there in favour of North based on that offer and the deal getting done. BUT, North hold all the chips. Well most of them.

If Richmond start stuffing round with offering second round picks for a guy they are willing to give 3 years to at nearly 400k, I have no doubt North will let him walk where he we likely be snapped up by St Kilda or Melbourne and spend the next 5 years contending for a spoon, rather than playing deep finals and maybe a flag.

It would be your first rounder or bust IMO, which, as much as I would hate to see Greenwood go, a very good result for North as we would have gotten a pack of twisties this time last year.

But I think the deck is stacked in the Roos favour to retain him with the deal offered.
 

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NORTH Melbourne is hopeful it can advance contract negotiations with midfielder Levi Greenwood over the weekend and secure the uncontracted Roo as rival clubs circle.

Greenwood, who enjoyed a career-best season in 2014, has attracted interest from Richmond and also been linked to Collingwood since coming out of contract.

Kangaroos football manager Geoff Walsh said the club had been able to satisfy the terms requested by Greenwood and his manager Liam Pickering, but they would continue talks.

"We don't feel we're far away, but we understand the competitive tension in the market while he remains officially uncommitted," Walsh told NAB AFL Trade Radio.

"Hopefully in the next 48-72 hours we get to a stage where we talk with Liam Pickering again, and are we able to come to terms with their requirements and where we feel we can go.

"We will endeavour to keep working on that and hopefully by the time the weekend unfolds we've got a position."

The Kangaroos unveiled free agent recruit Jarrad Waite on Friday in a move that will boost their tall stocks.

The move to secure the former Carlton spearhead has clouded the future of North Melbourne's fringe talls, with Majak Daw, Robbie Tarrant and Aaron Black all battling for opportunities.

Walsh, however, said the club was not looking to move any on, with Tarrant (leg) and Black (shoulder) shaping as new recruits in 2015 after injury-effected seasons.

"We think Robbie will have a good summer – the post-operative diagnosis is good, and we think he's got the versatility to play [forward] or back," he said.

"'Blacky' played under some significant difficulty during the year with a shoulder injury.

"He'll have that repaired and we admired him so much for his willingness to get out there each week.

"Majak is still a developing player … he's still very much a player we will put a lot of time into."

Walsh said contracted half-back Aaron Mullett was a required player, while the club would help facilitate a move for midfielder Liam Anthony if there was interest from rival clubs.
 

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IMO you need help on the inside.

Would you pick up a player at #11 that would give you the same sort of impact that Greenwood would?

I'm not sure they would.
Long term, yes, our first pick is always best available. Like I said before, we have a lot of kids yet to show anywhere near their potential. We'll get Conca's first full preseason into him since he's been on our list and he can easily play that role, Ellis will be increasing his contested work, Vlastuin will increase his tank and can spend more time in the midfield, Miles will actually play the whole year, McDonough gets another year into him. Natural development and experience will fulfil our needs just as much as getting Greenwood would, plus whatever output we get from our first round pick. Basically we won't be forced into paying more than we want for him.
From all reports he is on the borderline of signing with us and all things being equal he would stay.

If the Richmond deal becomes too good to refuse, he may WANT to go there in favour of North based on that offer and the deal getting done. BUT, North hold all the chips. Well most of them.

If Richmond start stuffing round with offering second round picks for a guy they are willing to give 3 years to at nearly 400k, I have no doubt North will let him walk where he we likely be snapped up by St Kilda or Melbourne and spend the next 5 years contending for a spoon, rather than playing deep finals and maybe a flag.

It would be your first rounder or bust IMO, which, as much as I would hate to see Greenwood go, a very good result for North as we would have gotten a pack of twisties this time last year.

But I think the deck is stacked in the Roos favour to retain him with the deal offered.
We won't only offer our second round pick, that would be silly, but as I said above there's no way we'll pay our first for the exact reason you just mentioned, this time last year you would have got a pack of twisties. If St Kilda or Melbourne want to offer North more than us, simply put we don't care.
 

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You can't let a player like greenwood go to another team but allow someone like Higgins come in (get paid more and longer contract)

We can not send this kind of message to the playing group we just can't.

No offence to RICHMOND but they are way off wining big finals, I'm not sure the contract would be attractive enough for greenwood to leave but stranger things has happened
 

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The thing is, Greenwood's the type of player they dream of Vlastuin becoming but you can bet they wouldn't consider even putting him on the table.
 

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Will pick 20 odd work? No.

Will pick 20 odd and some Richmond spud work? No.

So, if Levi wants Richmond want Levi it will be up to them to come up with an appropriate deal for a player who had a year equivalent to their best and fairest. Otherwise Levi can walk for free to St. Kilda.

Unless of course he re-signs.
 

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Vlastuin we want to be a Hodge type

Conca is probably a better comparison, except Conca has played 3 more games than Greenwood but is 3 years younger. At the same age:
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...1=3452&tid2=13&pid2=2332&type=A&fid1=O&fid2=O
The same age thing means nothing. Greenwood's had his breakout year now.

Vlastuin doesn't have the skills or poise of Hodge. Has the hardness, though, and should find the footy in the midfield (doesn't read the play well enough to impact offensively from the backline). Hey, kinda like Greenwood.
 

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Will pick 20 odd work? No.

Will pick 20 odd and some Richmond spud work? No.

So, if Levi wants Richmond want Levi it will be up to them to come up with an appropriate deal for a player who had a year equivalent to their best and fairest. Otherwise Levi can walk for free to St. Kilda.

Unless of course he re-signs.
Assuming he doesn't re-sign, what works better for North?
1. Richmond's second pick
2. St Kilda in the PSD

You have a lot less leverage to us than you're making out
 
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