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Was anyone complaining about his physique when he played for the dogs? His current condition says more about the club than it does him.What part of Jake Stringers personality that you've seen so far leads you to believe he'd react well to ultimatums around skin folds and being pushed hard?
No because they were winning and he was kicking goals.Was anyone complaining about his physique when he played for the dogs? His current condition says more about the club than it does him.
No one cared until BRUCE anyway.No because they were winning and he was kicking goals.
Nobody complained before he did his ankle either. Because he was kicking goals and we were winning.
Jake's never been a physical specimen and he doesn't need to be. And he knows it, "pushing" him doesn't work, it's been tried
My original point is that standards need to be set for the whole team, instead having special exemptions for some players and not others.Jake's never been a physical specimen and he doesn't need to be. And he knows it, "pushing" him doesn't work, it's been tried
Maybe the blue was more thinning?My original point is that standards need to be set for the whole team, instead having special exemptions for some players and not others.
Also objectively he looked much better in a bulldogs jumper and his lack of conditioning isn't a recent thing at Essendon. Do you recall his first season in 2018? To his credit he looked better in 2019.
I just want to see the best possible version of Jake. He has been a very good player for us, but could be even better if he was a bit lighter.
I think after 138 games and 8 seasons in the comp people are well aware of what Jake is about.Seems people forgot that at the start of 2020, and post-resumption, he looked fine.
He was very underdone when he came back, probably shouldn't have come back at all.
Jake is obviously not a guy who's ever going to look like a thoroughbred, but taking his shape at the end of the season, post-injury where he wouldn't have been able to run, as an indication he's not dedicated is very short term thinking.
I think after 138 games and 8 seasons in the comp people are well aware of what Jake is about.
It's not short term thinking when you also consider his 2018 season.Taking his shape at the end of the season, post-injury where he wouldn't have been able to run, as an indication he's not dedicated is very short term thinking.
It's not short term thinking when you also consider his 2018 season.
I think technically black should be more slimming than blue.Maybe the blue was more thinning?
I'm not disagreeing that he would be better if he got fit. But he doesn't respond to being pushed, you're more likely to see him do the opposite. A one size fits all approach in standards works if everyone is the same size.
We aren't the only club that let things slide for specific players.
It was 30 goals in a forward line with McKernan and Brown, lol.You mean the one where he lead our goalkicking?
I think technically black should be more slimming than blue.
And maybe we agree to disagree about the standards.
Yeah but he had injury and fitness trouble at the bulldogs. If you look at the games he played at the bulldogs without injury and fitness trouble he was a very consistent performer.If he doesn't perform on the football field that is one thing, but when he is on the field (not coming off a bad lower leg injury in a stuffed up season with no off field structure) he has been performing. In fact he has been more consistent here than he ever was.
Nothing wrong with getting him fitter than he’s ever been for us for next season. But it’s not about shaming him into it with skinfolds etc. It’s about setting him up to succeed. He knows himself, so sit him down and work out how to do that. If he struggles to get motivated himself - plenty do - then get him in an off season running program with others who’ll make sure he does every session.
He wasn’t fit when he arrived at the club and obviously wasn’t when coming off his injury this year. He seems to a bloke who gets his fitness on raceday.
Nothing wrong with getting him fitter than he’s ever been for us for next season. But it’s not about shaming him into it with skinfolds etc. It’s about setting him up to succeed. He knows himself, so sit him down and work out how to do that. If he struggles to get motivated himself - plenty do - then get him in an off season running program with others who’ll make sure he does every session.
Not sure if Ambrose is fit yet but I like the idea of him dragging around Stringer and Francis over summer.
But was he as strong as a tackle breaker in the midfield?Just watched some highlights of Stringer back in 2016 at the Dogs, he was notably trimmer and had outstanding accelleration and speed, not to dissimilar to a De Goey/Martin. He'd need to drop at least 5kgs to get back to that sort of condition but I woudn't put it beyond him.
But was he as strong as a tackle breaker in the midfield?
As a Dogs supporter who always loved Jake it is so obvious that he has put on a heap of weight since he was with us. He was always quite lean but still strong. I reckon you tried to bulk him up to be that burst player in the midfield but he has struggled to lose the weight. He always has struggled to get over injuries and apparently he is not the best eater and trainer. He was fat last year and in the pre season before the injury. It just seems to be his current level. He had that horrific leg break as a junior that I always feared would reappear. Hopefully this extra weight doesn’t cause any further worries with the leg. Would love to see him back at his 2015 best. Not sure if we will ever will.I'd say yes from the footage I saw. The benefit of being a bit lighter is that extra yard of pace that allows him to burst away from opponents. Carrying the extra bulk makes him stronger and harder to tackle but limits his speed and acceleration. 5kgs off would still put him as one of the heavier mids in the competition.
This is the sort of thing that happens at the more successful clubs right....Cotchin taking Martin under his wing is one example, Players putting it on GAJ to lift at Geelong is another.He wasn’t fit when he arrived at the club and obviously wasn’t when coming off his injury this year. He seems to a bloke who gets his fitness on raceday.
Nothing wrong with getting him fitter than he’s ever been for us for next season. But it’s not about shaming him into it with skinfolds etc. It’s about setting him up to succeed. He knows himself, so sit him down and work out how to do that. If he struggles to get motivated himself - plenty do - then get him in an off season running program with others who’ll make sure he does every session.
Not sure if Ambrose is fit yet but I like the idea of him dragging around Stringer and Francis over summer.