Retired #29: Patrick Ambrose - Officially retired - 11/8

[Lore]

Contract Status: Retired. 11/8
Last Game Played: Elimination Final 2019 (injured)
Injury Status: Injured, stayed in Vic with a young baby - 18/7
Sore, finished the VFL game on the bench - 29/6

 

[Towno78]

So early in the week I heard Justin Crow comment that he wanted Ambrose to be able to kick a big torp to prove his quad was ok...it appears he tried to do so and bang he's done it again...surely the high performance team should have a better way to determine if he's ready to go? Surely a scan of the muscle etc...asking to perform an action that could re-injure it doesn't sound ideal...

Running, kicking and jumping are things that place demands on the quad and potentially injure... if the high performance team WEREN'T asking Ambrose to do these things through his rehab and testing his capacity to do so prior to return to sport, there would be serious problems.

 

[efcboy]

Running, kicking and jumping are things that place demands on the quad and potentially injure... if the high performance team WEREN'T asking Ambrose to do these things through his rehab and testing his capacity to do so prior to return to sport, there would be serious problems.

The smart team doesn't rush it and manages his load to avoid re-injury. He has re-injured it obviously so questions must be asked how this occurred in a controlled training program. If they were asking him to do too much too early then there are serious problems

 

[Lore]

The smart team doesn't rush it and manages his load to avoid re-injury. He has re-injured it obviously so questions must be asked how this occurred in a controlled training program. If they were asking him to do too much too early then there are serious problems

Surely you ask questions about patterns of behaviour, rather than one-off incidences? He's the only 'potentially reinjured' player on the list this year, and one of very few who have been injured at all. If I didn't know better I'd think you just liked being outraged.

 

[Towno78]

The smart team doesn't rush it and manages his load to avoid re-injury. He has re-injured it obviously so questions must be asked how this occurred in a controlled training program. If they were asking him to do too much too early then there are serious problems

Obviously something has gone wrong here. It is an inexact science, it happens. If it was a pattern, then there would indicate problems. It's not a pattern, our list in recent times has been healthier than it's been since I remember baracking for this club.
I think Lore has hit the nail on the head.

 

[Aeglos]

Sack Crow (in fairness though I agree with the above post)

 

[jmoo wan]

Crow looked pretty cut up about it in the injury update video

 

[efcboy]

Reminds me of this:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/da...h/news-story/0737fbb8e321b38c41cb9bc4e2108f00

And I think Hurley had an extended period recovering from a quad injury

 

[yaco55]

Hurley injured his quad a training after his first game. Think he missed 4 or 5. Training injuries frustrate me no end.

Sent from my SM-G9250 using Tapatalk

 

[TheBrightSide]

Hurley injured his quad a training after his first game. Think he missed 4 or 5. Training injuries frustrate me no end.

Sent from my SM-G9250 using Tapatalk

I think most of our injuries have occurred during training this year.
Take it easier fella's.

 

[the PILL]

Reminds me of this:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/da...h/news-story/0737fbb8e321b38c41cb9bc4e2108f00

And I think Hurley had an extended period recovering from a quad injury

I actually met Zaka during this period and he was genuinely shattered and worried about the time it was taking to heal from that article...

I remember thinking, "ohhh no!!!" He has a reacurring problem simply from his frustration and rehab setbacks...

Like Hurls, it's kind of encoraging that they seem to repair over time and mostly not plague careers...

Play it safe with him!

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Hurley injured his quad a training after his first game. Think he missed 4 or 5. Training injuries frustrate me no end.

Sent from my SM-G9250 using Tapatalk

Many times though if there were no training session the player quite possibly would have had the same injury on game day.

 

[Ambrosia]

Surely you ask questions about patterns of behaviour, rather than one-off incidences? He's the only 'potentially reinjured' player on the list this year, and one of very few who have been injured at all. If I didn't know better I'd think you just liked being outraged.

Agree with this although it may now be time to add a week or two to the expected recovery time of a quad seeing as this has happened multiple times now.

 

[Aeglos]

Many times though if there were no training session the player quite possibly would have had the same injury on game day.

There is a lot of literature out there that says if you reduce training loads you're MORE likely to get injured during a game

 

[Maddogm]

Reminds me of this:

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/da...h/news-story/0737fbb8e321b38c41cb9bc4e2108f00

And I think Hurley had an extended period recovering from a quad injury

under a different fitness department

 

[efcboy]

under a different fitness department

Same medicos though

 

[quotemokc]

Almost would have preferred him in tonight over Hooker so that we could have had some inside grunt.

 

[blitzer]

For years Ambrose was never much good and yet he was always fit. This year he finally became a good player and nearly the entire year on the sidelines.

Life's just not fair sometimes.

 

[Despair]

Please come back! Ill mow your lawns for the rest of the year.

 

[daffo]

I'm guessing he is still a couple of weeks away.

 

[Lore]

I'm guessing he is still a couple of weeks away.

Yup. Current ETA is about round 18, but I'm guessing he'll need some VFL minutes after that lay off. Should be back training maybe this week or next week? I think the 6 weeks usually includes building up training time in the last couple of weeks.

 

[Lore]

Yup. Current ETA is about round 18, but I'm guessing he'll need some VFL minutes after that lay off. Should be back training maybe this week or next week? I think the 6 weeks usually includes building up training time in the last couple of weeks.

Ha, so '6 more weeks' has become 8, and his ETA is now Round 20.

 

[blitzer]

Ha, so '6 more weeks' has become 8, and his ETA is now Round 20.

No surprises there. When he reinjured it they basically said it was a similar injury to the first time and since its a re-injury that was always likely to add a week or 2 as they try to be more cautious.

In this case they can even see on the scan it hasn't fully healed yet, plus he's now missed a lot of footy and while he's always fit, his conditioning would have taken a hit.

I'd think we might only see him for a game or 2 at AFL level (after maybe 2 VFL games) before the end of the year.

 

[Number_17]

Bumped into Ambrose while he was completing some 1 on 1 drills in the car park of the 1000 steps walk in ferntree gully this morning. He's still a little way off a return I'd say.

 

[Jobe is King]

Bumped into Ambrose while he was completing some 1 on 1 drills in the car park of the 1000 steps walk in ferntree gully this morning. He's still a little way off a return I'd say.

So you hit him with your car?

 

[dnbassador]

Love how footy works people were calling for his head not long ago and now so many want him back into the team so bad. One thing Ambrose does give that most don't is toughness we are a pretty soft team.