2nd Ashes Test: England v Australia, Lord's July 18-22.

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moto748

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So? Our bowlers are actually good. This is what you do against good bowling. You pull your head in, harden your technique and fight. Unlike our pathetic ####en batsmen who for the past 4 or 5 years fold like a deck of cards soon as it gets a little bit hard.


That's quite right, but England's bowlers are that bit better again. Still, it doesn't excuse some very poor batting displays in this match. And not all of them by Aussies, either.

BTW, what happened to Great White Hope Mitchell Johnson? :p Is he not in the frame any more?
 

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Well that was simple incompetence. Hill just didn't know how to correctly interpret the visual data presented to him. Warne has explained it beautifully, and it just beggars belief that they don't go through this sort of thing with these 'elite' umpires in advance. Certain things look a certain way on the replay. When the ball doesn't carry, it never looks like that.

In all honesty, this one is unlikely to really cost us much more than annoyance, and it's not as if all the bad/questionable calls have gone against us. But it's not good enough at this level. I've got no issue with Bell either, he's entitled to have it checked whether it carried.
 

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so tony hill is on the 'elite' panel of icc umpires. as is dar.

they must give those out pretty easy.

third umpire should be forced to explain why they give decisions or way or the other. tony hill should explain why that was not a catch even though smith's hands were under the ball.
 

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I hope someone in our team has the balls to speak up about this crap.
probably not. Clarke will come out being the little girl she is and say something like" smith thought it was out and it kinda looked out but obviously it wasn't out because the 3rd umpire thought that......I'm soft.....the umpires are always right.......England don't cheat ect" he should man up and say something about this corrupt shiit
 

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Is Simon Taufel still on the elite list? I'd have no problem with him standing in Ashes games. I have no idea who the best English Test umps are because I rarely see them. I don't watch the one day stuff.
 

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Cricket is much worse with DRS and 3rd umpires. I thought the idea was to get the right decisions more often than not - it clearly is failing in this regard. It's become a tactical thing and is confusing the public and players more than ever. Either fix it or scrap the bloody lot of it.
 
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