2nd Test; Australia v Pakistan @ Adelaide Over (D/N) November 29-December 3

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - feeling for them circumstantially is just another way of saying they were UNLUCKY - but I'm not sure how you can feel for them circumstantially with a straight face while at the same time saying their circumstances haven't changed - that is peak Phatboy!

A few interesting stats

Session 1
Australia 2/168
Pakistan 4/245

Session 2
Australia 1/183
Pakistan 7/156

Session 3
Australia 0/159
Pakistan 9/158

I guess Australia where just unlucky they didn't get to bat under lights more or they might have made 0/1000
answer the question Pauline Hanson:

is it harder to face a new pink ball under lights based on day-night test evidence?

yes or no?
 

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answer the question Pauline Hanson:

is it harder to face a new pink ball under lights based on day-night test evidence?

yes or no?
Given it doesn't chance circumstances according to you I would have to answer no.

In any case - the second new ball in their first innings it was still being played in daylight and they were already 8 down - L O f*n L at that having an impact on the match.
 

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Given it doesn't chance circumstances according to you I would have to answer no.

In any case - the second new ball in their first innings it was still being played in daylight and they were already 8 down - L O f*n L at that having an impact on the match.
It didn’t have an impact on the match you idiot.

do you need me to scrawl it across the nude poster of David Warner On your bedroom ceiling? I’ve never said it had any impact on the match! 15 hours later you’re still arguing a point that never existed!

I said I feel for them because it’s harder to bat against a new pink ball under lights and they were on track to do it 3 times in 3 days!

where does that mention any impact on the game, its outcome, its margin!

if I said I feel for them facing a red hot Mitchell Starc who’s come back into form, would that be saying that they were somehow unlucky not to win? No of course it wouldn’t. It wouldn’t change the fact that I don’t envy them having to face a 150km/h bowler swinging the ball around after having a relatively lean period beforehand

I’m sure in one of the other threads someone has made a comment about how they feel for Naseem missing his first test wicket due to a no ball which you can take personally and start a petition about.
 

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As another poster said - if you are getting bowled out for around 90 overs you are going to face a lot of new balls - and given this is a DAY/NIGHT test on average at least half of those will be at night anyway.

Phatties whole promise on this topic is completely irrelevant and a waste of time.

They got smashed because they were absolute garbage - day, night, rain, dry, batting, bowling

#qed
 

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Did you see how slowly they bowled in Brisbane? Those 4 overs at the end of day 1 wouldn't have made a difference.
Again, just for those playing at home, I never said it would make a difference.
I’m sure they’d have at least liked the chance, though.
 

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As another poster said - if you are getting bowled out for around 90 overs you are going to face a lot of new balls - and given this is a DAY/NIGHT test on average at least half of those will be at night anyway.

Phatties whole promise on this topic is completely irrelevant and a waste of time.

They got smashed because they were absolute garbage - day, night, rain, dry, batting, bowling

#qed
my premise that I feel for them?
What, so you’re not allowed to have sympathy for a sportsman unless it gets run by you first?
 

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lol, what is even the point of this debate?
tbh I kind of don’t even know any more.

basically at the core of it is the fact that basically anyone can say whatever the hell they want, as soon as a self professed non Aussie fan says they feel for the opposition, it’s accused of being some sort of anti australian troll.
 

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my premise that I feel for them?
What, so you’re not allowed to have sympathy for a sportsman unless it gets run by you first?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

in that case you may as well just feel sympathetic for any team that loses the test toss these days.

Name a more pointless debate than this in this test series....i'll wait
 

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tbh I kind of don’t even know any more.

basically at the core of it is the fact that basically anyone can say whatever the hell they want, as soon as a self professed non Aussie fan says they feel for the opposition, it’s accused of being some sort of anti australian troll.
That's the premise - my point is i can't see how you can feel sympathy for a team that were utterly pathetic and put in one of the worst displays in a test series we have seen on these shores for some time. If you think that isn't the case then good luck to you...but you are wrong.
 

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As a Aussie team what did we learn?

Bowling attack best in the world, knew that.
Warner likes flat decks,knew that..
Found our number 3!
Wade sowed up his spot


Still question marks on Paine, head,
 

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against a new ball 3 nights on the bounce, having missed the chance to bowl with a new ball of their own at night due to weather.
You missed my point.They largely put themselves in that position. In any case the end result was more or less the same as the first test. No pink ball or night play in that match to blame was there?

We'll find out soon (when we play NZ) how much of this series result was due to Australia playing well as opposed to Pakistan being poor.
 
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You missed my point.They largely put themselves in that position. In any case the end result was more or less the same as the first test. No pink ball or night play in that match to blame was there?

We'll find out soon (when we play NZ) how much of this series result was due to Australia playing well as opposed to Pakistan being poor.
I know their ineptitude with the ball got them in that position in the first place, it doesn’t mean I can’t have some sympathy for the batsmen
 

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Fair point, if I was Pak I would look at converting him to specialist bat. If only they had a decent experienced keeper (cough Sarfaraz cough)
A top 7 of Azhar, Shan Masood, Babar, Shafiq, Rizwan and Sarfraz with just one other adequate player would look quite reasonable. I’m still baffled as to why they played Musa
 

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I actually came away thinking that Pakistan have the bones of decent side despite the one sided score.
It was pretty much just the same tour from three years ago though, the batting did ok on flat tracks but the bowling was ineffective and pummeled at 4 an over.

This myth about pakistans endless bowling riches needs to die off as it's them not the batsmen who are the biggest issue on these tours.
 

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It was pretty much just the same tour from three years ago though, the batting did ok on flat tracks but the bowling was ineffective and pummeled at 4 an over.

This myth about pakistans endless bowling riches needs to die off as it's them not the batsmen who are the biggest issue on these tours.
I don’t think it’s a myth as far as ability goes but f*** me they know how to mismanage them
 

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I actually came away thinking that Pakistan have the bones of decent side despite the one sided score.
That's the Pakistan conundrum isn't it? On talent they look to have enough pieces to compete/build around but somehow the sum of it's parts always ends up less than you would expect.
 

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