2nd Test; Australia v Pakistan @ Adelaide Over (D/N) November 29-December 3

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what is fitness going to do for a leg spinner? Tell me.
What good does 3 extra rolls do?

You don't think fitness plays a part in concentration? Stamina? Fielding? Running between wickets? Agility?

You reckon his team mates would appreciate him the same if he was pigging out while they were eating their veggies?
 

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I actually think Warne has a point on both counts, though more so with Hauritz.

Hauritz was fairly limited, but the fields Ponting set quite often didn't help him much.

Warne wasn't so affected by that because he had more control over the fields that were set when he was bowling, but I do think that at times Ponting held him back from the attack for a little too long.
Yeah I'm a big believer that Hauritz was very hard done by to be dropped when he was, but it's hard to tell if Warne actually had a real reason for arguing the point beyond wanting to attack Ponting because he never got over not getting the captaincy. The blur between actual analysis and personal spats severely limits Warne as a pundit.
 

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That’s harsh on the beetle
You've got a quick with 6 wickets, he's only bowled 3 overs in his last spell, but you take him off because the second new ball is 12 overs away??!!! WTF is that? Then you open the new session with Smith and Lyon? That bowling was embarrassing, I couldn't take any more so I switched it off.
 

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So your defence is a West Indian and Pakistani player are fat but they played OK so it's all good....

Where are they ranked? Somewhere between laughing stock and has been?

That says everything about their standards and why both teams will never amount to anything....
where were Australia ranked when Warne was playing? Where were they ranked at the back half of Merv’s career? David Boon? SA with Kallis, who while not exactly a slob was generally carrying a bit more than he needed to on his already large frame? Inzamam led a very good Pakistan side with the bat.
I think if you’re basing your argument on the world rankings of the WI (who incidentally won their last series against England. India and Australia didn’t) and Pakistan, its feeble.

skill first, fitness second
 

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What good does 3 extra rolls do?

You don't think fitness plays a part in concentration? Stamina? Fielding? Running between wickets? Agility?

You reckon his team mates would appreciate him the same if he was pigging out while they were eating their veggies?
has Shah run anyone out with his lack of fitness? Doesn’t matter how fit he gets, he will be slow. So unless his fatigue is costing someone it’s irrelevant. He’s bowling a thousand overs an innings at the moment so there’s a fair chance he’d boast better match fitness than anyone in this thread.
 

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where were Australia ranked when Warne was playing? Where were they ranked at the back half of Merv’s career? David Boon? SA with Kallis, who while not exactly a slob was generally carrying a bit more than he needed to on his already large frame? Inzamam led a very good Pakistan side with the bat.
I think if you’re basing your argument on the world rankings of the WI (who incidentally won their last series against England. India and Australia didn’t) and Pakistan, its feeble.

skill first, fitness second
Irrelevant. This is 2019.

We know better now.

Every athlete owes it to themselves to be at peak fitness.

Some sports are slower to catch on.
 

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Sorry, why was Cummins held back for so long?

Starc/Cummins is a nightmarish combo for most tailenders because the former has a brilliant yorker while the latter has brutal short deliveries, but Paine has used both relatively sparingly.
 

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Irrelevant. This is 2019.

We know better now.

Every athlete owes it to themselves to be at peak fitness.

Some sports are slower to catch on.
irrelevant? Half the blokes on that field played against Jacques Kallis. Statistically probably the greatest cricketer the game has seen.

Oh we’ve moved on that far in 4 years have we?

Christ on a bike.
 

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has Shah run anyone out with his lack of fitness? Doesn’t matter how fit he gets, he will be slow. So unless his fatigue is costing someone it’s irrelevant. He’s bowling a thousand overs an innings at the moment so there’s a fair chance he’d boast better match fitness than anyone in this thread.
He must have alotta pies to make up for that workload...

Meanwhile his team is shit.

How you can defend overweight athletes in 2019 is beyond comprehension.
 

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Sorry, why was Cummins held back for so long?

Starc/Cummins is a nightmarish combo for most tailenders because the former has a brilliant yorker while the latter has brutal short deliveries, but Paine has used both relatively sparingly.
Feels like Paine has flip flopped between wanting to enforce the follow-on or not, so we got a lot of spin to rest the quicks, but now he's having to bowl them and we'll probably bat again anyway, so we basically just gave Yasir a generous amount of time not having to deal with the quicks.
 

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