2nd Test; Australia v Pakistan @ Adelaide Over (D/N) November 29-December 3

[Richard Pryor]

Yep. And he’s said some things so many times that now even when he has something fairly innocent to say it’s hard to tell if he has an agenda or not - ie. before when he said he learned more from Ian Chappell than anyone else, was that a dig at Buchanan or Waugh in some obscure way?

This just jogged my memory of Warne saying he thought Hauritz was a great spinner and offering to have net sessions to coach him (even though he's a fingerspinner, so not sure how many tips he could give him), but his real motivation was made clear when he said the thing holding Hauritz back was Ponting setting bad fields for spin (with the implication of course being that Ponting had robbed Warne with his shitty captaincy).

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If anyone can gift Abbas a test ton, Paine can with his awful captaincy

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Tim Paine would have gone off the ground looking for a clue.

 

[PT Bar None]

There were some pretty impressive Cossie vs bucket stories getting around.

Didn't he have empty buckets piled up in his academy room?

 

[Richard Pryor]

Can Braedesman please pipe up to jinx Cummins a wicket?

 

[PhatBoy]

'Criminal' please.. they guy's attitude has always completely stunk.

100% correct decision to overlook him.

Yeah look ok, if you’re told to get fit to get picked, you’re an idiot for not doing it, but the bottom line is that runs or wickets are currency, everything else should be of secondary importance.

West Indies have ignored Cornwall.Who aside from the curiously ignored Nikita Miller has been the best spinner in WI first class cricket for some time, based on his size.

he comes in, takes 7 wickets (yeah ok it was against Afghanistan but the fact was he bowled well) in an innings and a handful of good catches. Utilise then skill first then look at the other stuff.

 

[PhatBoy]

You are making it sound that if they play OK, well who cares.... Well what about if they actually were fit? How much better could they be? Do you reckon he's running to the boundary as easily as Warner? He's still gotta run between the wicket with the bat...

what is fitness going to do for a leg spinner? Tell me.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

If anyone can gift Abbas a test ton, Paine can with his awful captaincy

I haven't been a fan of Paine's captaincy for some time, but today is the last straw. He has all the tactical nous of an African dung beetle.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Finally caught one...

Pity it was nowhere near the bat

 

[DaRick]

This just jogged my memory of Warne saying he thought Hauritz was a great spinner and offering to have net sessions to coach him (even though he's a fingerspinner, so not sure how many tips he could give him), but his real motivation was made clear when he said the thing holding Hauritz back was Ponting setting bad fields for spin (with the implication of course being that Ponting had robbed Warne with his shitty captaincy).

I actually think Warne has a point on both counts, though more so with Hauritz.

Hauritz was fairly limited, but the fields Ponting set quite often didn't help him much.

Warne wasn't so affected by that because he had more control over the fields that were set when he was bowling, but I do think that at times Ponting held him back from the attack for a little bit too long.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Hopefully Paine's right hand is sore enough to keep him out. Unbelievable rubbish.

 

[PhatBoy]

Cummins doesn’t need to lower himself to that.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I haven't been a fan of Paine's captaincy for some time, but today is the last straw. He has all the tactical nous of an African dung beetle.

That’s harsh on the beetle

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Jesus, boys. We're a bog average side still and not good enough for today's arrogance.

 

[PAFC_1870]

Yeah look ok, if you’re told to get fit to get picked, you’re an idiot for not doing it, but the bottom line is that runs or wickets are currency, everything else should be of secondary importance.

West Indies have ignored Cornwall.Who aside from the curiously ignored Nikita Miller has been the best spinner in WI first class cricket for some time, based on his size.

he comes in, takes 7 wickets (yeah ok it was against Afghanistan but the fact was he bowled well) in an innings and a handful of good catches. Utilise then skill first then look at the other stuff.

So your defence is a West Indian and Pakistani player are fat but they played OK so it's all good....

Where are they ranked? Somewhere between laughing stock and has been?

That says everything about their standards and why both teams will never amount to anything....

 

[Gough]

There were some pretty impressive Cossie vs bucket stories getting around.

Didn't he have empty buckets piled up in his academy room?

Warner was the other who was kicked out of the academy over that bedroom saga.

 

[danielnajdek]

Wouldn't be a bad thing if he got a broken finger. Captaincy is s**t, keeping is s**t and his batting is below s**t.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Lyon more shocked he turned one

 

[PAFC_1870]

what is fitness going to do for a leg spinner? Tell me.

What good does 3 extra rolls do?

You don't think fitness plays a part in concentration? Stamina? Fielding? Running between wickets? Agility?

You reckon his team mates would appreciate him the same if he was pigging out while they were eating their veggies?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Wouldn't be a bad thing if he got a broken finger. Captaincy is s**t, keeping is s**t and his batting is below s**t.

Not if the alternative is Carey...

And we have no one else to captain

 

[Richard Pryor]

I actually think Warne has a point on both counts, though more so with Hauritz.

Hauritz was fairly limited, but the fields Ponting set quite often didn't help him much.

Warne wasn't so affected by that because he had more control over the fields that were set when he was bowling, but I do think that at times Ponting held him back from the attack for a little too long.

Yeah I'm a big believer that Hauritz was very hard done by to be dropped when he was, but it's hard to tell if Warne actually had a real reason for arguing the point beyond wanting to attack Ponting because he never got over not getting the captaincy. The blur between actual analysis and personal spats severely limits Warne as a pundit.

 

[PT Bar None]

If the roles were reversed, I'd be loving this.

 

[PAFC_1870]

And we have no one else to captain

I dunno, I've moved on and we have one of the best in the world...

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

That’s harsh on the beetle

You've got a quick with 6 wickets, he's only bowled 3 overs in his last spell, but you take him off because the second new ball is 12 overs away??!!! WTF is that? Then you open the new session with Smith and Lyon? That bowling was embarrassing, I couldn't take any more so I switched it off.

 

[NSWCROW]

Could see this coming a mile off when Starc and co were *en joking around and hamming it up at the 1st drinks break