Past #3 Dylan Stephens

[Kennedy Parker]

Dylan Stephens
The Sydney Swans used their first pick five since Jarrad McVeigh

Jarrad Mcveigh

Age

40

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184cm

Wt

84kg

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Def

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19.3

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11.1

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8.2

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4.0

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3.1

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MG

327.8

4star

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9.4

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6.0

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3.4

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1.6

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1.8

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in 2002 to lock in a talented midfielder from South Australian club Norwood at the 2019 AFL Draft. Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

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10.3

3star

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7.0

3star

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3.3

3star

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3.0

3star

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1.7

4star

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0.0

1star

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10.3

3star

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7.0

3star

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3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

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1.7

3star

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0.0

1star

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10.3

3star

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7.0

3star

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3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

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0.0

1star

is a prolific ball-winner and creative user of the footy by hand and foot. He played predominantly on a wing in the early matches of the 2019 AFL Under-18 Championships before starring on the inside in the final match, gathering 33 disposals in a best-on-ground performance. A penetrating left-footer, he averaged 23.8 disposals and 4.8 tackles across the 2019 AFL Under-18 Championships and was rewarded with All Australian honours. He also played some excellent football at senior level with Norwood, averaging 18.2 disposals and 4.6 tackles in 12 matches. Stephens enjoyed a breakout season for the Bloods in 2020 with a memorable AFL debut in Round 6 against Richmond alongside fellow debutant, Chad Warner

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Chad Warner

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

M/F

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7.0

2star

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4.5

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2.5

2star

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1.5

2star

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1.5

3star

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0.0

1star

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7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

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2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

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0.0

1star

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7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

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1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

. Stephens finished the campaign with eight appearances, averaging 12.5 disposals and 3.4 marks per game, while also kicking two goals.

Dylan Stephens

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Dylan Stephens

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

DOB: 08 January 2001
DEBUT: 2020
DRAFT: #5, 2019 National Draft
RECRUITED FROM: Red Cliffs (Vic)/Walkerville (SA)/St Peter's College (SA)/Norwood (SANFL)

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[DeathlyAccurate]

I look forward to the inevitable flood of Bigfooty posts in 3 years time bemoaning the club’s decision to let him go.

Three years? You’re being generous to this board.

Wait for his first decent game for North and the same people who think he’s average and soft now will be telling us how we f’d up again and how it’s Longmire’s fault.

There’s nothing surer.


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[Jewelsbon]

Three years? You’re being generous to this board.

Wait for his first decent game for North and the same people who think he’s average and soft now will be telling us how we f’d up again and how it’s Longmire’s fault.

There’s nothing surer.


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Yep, no doubt at all......

 

[TheMase]

Don’t know about players, but there’s plenty of supporters who think he’s outstayed his welcome

Given the club and players keep backing him in, I know which one is more likely to have no idea…

 

[Caj]

Given the club and players keep backing him in, I know which one is more likely to have no idea…

Do you mean in the same way that Longmire has no idea how to use the tactical sub?

 

[TheMase]

Do you mean in the same way that Longmire has no idea how to use the tactical sub?

Maybe if we had depth that he thought would contribute more than the 22 already out there he’d use them. Like he did when Stephens was sub ( 20+ mins each time) or Fox (20+ mins each time). Clarke wasn’t often given a lot of time as sub (you think he’d be the difference?). Corey Warners 3 touches starting the game in Round 18 sure gave Horse confidence he’d come on a make an impact if used as sub and Clarke sure did make an impact in that game with 2 disposals in his 29 mins. Roberts had a good game at the start of the year as sub

What has a bigger impact, a tactic sub (imo mostly overrated impact) or losing a rotation or structure? Especially when you have players who don’t make a big impact as subs.

We don’t have a player to benefit from a tactical sub basically, so better to cover the rotation loss which would be more damaging.

I personally think the impact of the sub is mostly overrated.

 

[Caj]

Maybe if we had depth that he thought would contribute more than the 22 already out there he’d use them. Like he did when Stephens was sub ( 20+ mins each time) or Fox (20+ mins each time). Clarke wasn’t often given a lot of time as sub (you think he’d be the difference?). Corey Warners 3 touches starting the game in Round 18 sure gave Horse confidence he’d come on a make an impact if used as sub and Clarke sure did make an impact in that game with 2 disposals in his 29 mins. Roberts had a good game at the start of the year as sub

What has a bigger impact, a tactic sub (imo mostly overrated impact) or losing a rotation or structure? Especially when you have players who don’t make a big impact as subs.

We don’t have a player to benefit from a tactical sub basically, so better to cover the rotation loss which would be more damaging.

I personally think the impact of the sub is mostly overrated.

Given 17 other coaches disagree with Longmire, who is more likely to have no idea?

 

[.Shotties.]

Do you mean in the same way that Longmire has no idea how to use the tactical sub?

Outside of not being relevant, that's a groupthink meme on this board. No matter who Longmire picks as sub, there's some externality that would be seized upon as proof he got it wrong. A tall, a small, wet weather, dry weather, doesn't matter how it goes, it's always wrong.

Same with picking players this board thinks are injured.

 

[.Shotties.]

Given 17 other coaches disagree with Longmire, who is more likely to have no idea?

I don't get it, do you think Longmire is the only coach who uses the sub as potential cover?

 

[Caj]

Outside of not being relevant, that's a groupthink meme on this board. No matter who Longmire picks as sub, there's some externality that would be seized upon as proof he got it wrong. A tall, a small, wet weather, dry weather, doesn't matter how it goes, it's always wrong.

Same with picking players this board thinks are injured.

Picking and utilising a sub should be the most basic and obvious decision for a coach. If Longmire is getting that wrong consistently, what else is he missing that we don’t see

 

[.Shotties.]

Picking and utilising a sub should be the most basic and obvious decision for a coach. If Longmire is getting that wrong consistently, what else is he missing that we don’t see

According to this board he is. Show me the guidelines for a successful use of a sub without using vague descriptors

 

[Caj]

I don't get it, do you think Longmire is the only coach who uses the sub as potential cover?

He is the only coach who:

Picks talls as a sub
Picks a sub he doesn’t trust on the field
Decides not to use a sub at all in some matches
Quite regularly inserts the sub in the last 5 minutes of the game regardless of the status of the match
Regularly keeps players on the field who are clearly gassed or no longer contributing (ie Amartey) without utilising the sub

17 other coaches inject a running sub as fresh legs in every match this season except one, and that was Beveridge who is as cooked as Longmire

Do you think it’s a coincidence that we’re one of the worst 4th quarter teams in the league?

 

[.Shotties.]

He is the only coach who:

Picks talls as a sub
Picks a sub he doesn’t trust on the field
Decides not to use a sub at all in some matches
Quite regularly inserts the sub in the last 5 minutes of the game regardless of the status of the match

Hahaha, for ****s sake, this is objectively untrue.

 

[J_Moore]

**** me dead it is funny watching this discussion take place while Josh Schache

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Josh Schache

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28

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199cm

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94kg

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Fwd

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6.0

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3.8

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3.6

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1.3

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1.2

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6.5

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4.0

1star

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2.5

2star

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1.5

2star

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0.0

1star

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1.0

4star

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10.2

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7.2

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3.0

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4.6

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2.2

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0.8

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is literally sitting on the pine as the sub in a semi-final

 

[Caj]

Hahaha, for *s sake, this is objectively untrue.

Longmire supporters are Trumpian, it doesn’t matter what their man does they’ll support him blindly

Tell me what is untrue (without using vague descriptors )

 

[Old Kenny]

He is the only coach who:

Picks talls as a sub
Picks a sub he doesn’t trust on the field
Decides not to use a sub at all in some matches
Quite regularly inserts the sub in the last 5 minutes of the game regardless of the status of the match
Regularly keeps players on the field who are clearly gassed or no longer contributing (ie Amartey) without utilising the sub

17 other coaches inject a running sub as fresh legs in every match this season except one, and that was Beveridge who is as cooked as Longmire

Do you think it’s a coincidence that we’re one of the worst 4th quarter teams in the league?

Who did Melbourne pick as sub tonight? Just sayin.

 

[.Shotties.]

Tell me what is untrue (without using vague descriptors )

Yeah, no thanks. As J_Moore posted, there's literally a game now where a tall is the sub. There have been heaps of games where teams haven't used their sub or put them on late in the fourth. Amarty had one of the highest sub off rates in the league earlier in the season. It's ****ing tedious having people invent arguments without proof or any kind of backing then say "Prove it wrong"

 

[MF]

What are you guys expecting in return for the want-away? A pick upgrade, early 2-rounder? Everything seems to be falling Norths way ....

Early 2nd rounder would do it for me.

Basically if we can get Grundy for what we get for Stephens I'll be pretty happy

 

[Caj]

* me dead it is funny watching this discussion take place while Josh Schache is literally sitting on the pine as the sub in a semi-final

Let’s see who has more of an impact, him or Hollands

O ok

Yeah, no thanks. As J_Moore posted, there's literally a game now where a tall is the sub. There have been heaps of games where teams haven't used their sub or put them on late in the fourth. Amarty had one of the highest sub off rates in the league earlier in the season. It's ******* tedious having people invent arguments without proof or any kind of backing then say "Prove it wrong"

You know I’m right and you’re wrong

Go and out your red hat back on Trumpy

 

[Orange crush]

Early 2nd rounder would do it for me.

Basically if we can get Grundy for what we get for Stephens I'll be pretty happy

Nice trade

 

[MF]

He is the only coach who:

Picks talls as a sub
Picks a sub he doesn’t trust on the field
Decides not to use a sub at all in some matches
Quite regularly inserts the sub in the last 5 minutes of the game regardless of the status of the match
Regularly keeps players on the field who are clearly gassed or no longer contributing (ie Amartey) without utilising the sub

17 other coaches inject a running sub as fresh legs in every match this season except one, and that was Beveridge who is as cooked as Longmire

Do you think it’s a coincidence that we’re one of the worst 4th quarter teams in the league?

I'm dumbfounded that anyone could actually equate the use of the sub to a 4th quarter fadeout of an entire team of 22 players.

Most of the season our choice of "runners" was Ryan Clarke or Corey Warner / Matt Roberts who average about 5 possesions per game, let alone what their impact would be in a quarter.

Even if we had a good sub choice most of the year it's such an overrated, non factor in games that it still wouldn't come close to explaining our fadeouts.

 

[.Shotties.]

You know I’m right and you’re wrong

Go and out your red hat back on Trumpy

AFL's most subbed: How clubs are using 2023's substitute rule

Who's started as sub the most? Who's most often subbed off? When? Sarah Black crunches the numbers

www.afl.com.au

These aren't even complete stats and they're from the first quarter of the year, but they still blow your arguments out of the water.

 

[J_Moore]

Let’s see who has more of an impact, him or Hollands

 

[Caj]

AFL's most subbed: How clubs are using 2023's substitute rule

Who's started as sub the most? Who's most often subbed off? When? Sarah Black crunches the numbers

www.afl.com.au

These aren't even complete stats and they're from the first quarter of the year, but they still blow your arguments out of the water.

LOL those stats actually support my argument

 

[J_Moore]

 

[.Shotties.]

LOL those stats actually support my argument

Which one? That no other coach uses a tall player? 5 had by April. That players like Amarty aren't subbed?* (was one of the few regularly subbed off. That other coaches don't pass on using the sub? Has happened multiple times at other clubs this year.

*This one is a colossally stupid argument, by the way. 'Regularly doesn't sub off players who are gassed'. There's one sub. Almost every player on the field is cooked.