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Retired #3: Paul Chapman

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I think it might a sore ankle. ankle sore.

Might have rolled it in that 2nd quarter?.. anyway I doubt we'd risk him.. he is at the club to play 15 games of brilliance.. he has 3 in the bank, only 12 more required.. and hopefully 3 of them will be finals..
 
Two things

- I don't understand why people say Chapman left Geelong under a cloud. He parted on good terms and the club played a tribute on B and F night.
- Small forward/medium forward - Chapman like D.Rioli and Bewick is a midfielder who has played more forward in the latter part of his career.
 
yaco55 said:
Two things

- I don't understand why people say Chapman left Geelong under a cloud. He parted on good terms and the club played a tribute on B and F night.
- Small forward/medium forward - Chapman like D.Rioli and Bewick is a midfielder who has played more forward in the latter part of his career.
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Chappy still would have preferred to be a one club man, first bad decision by Cats in a long time.
 
Ben the Gooner said:
It's heresy to point out the emperor has no clothes on at Geelong.

Because you've made so few mistakes, especially in regards to something as important and intangible as culture, it's hard to believe that it can happen. But Chris Scott (who I'm still far from sold on incidentally. The team up until probably this year could coach itself just about. Now we start to see if he's any good) made the big mistake of treating a club which was so much more than the sum of its parts like a game of Manager Mode on FIFA. Your culture isn't so flimsy as to break down from one big decision like Melbourne did with MacDonald or Carlton did with the tanking, but people have suddenly noticed that it's not bulletproof.
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Naive remark against Scott, name 2 coaches who have taken over a team that won a premiership within 2\3 years of them being named coach, then taking that team to premiership glory again.

Look at Watters at Saints or Buckley at Pies.

Scott almost pinched another last year and this year the Cats are 3-0.
 

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Fin ice Smuggler said:
Naive remark against Scott, name 2 coaches who have taken over a team that won a premiership within 2\3 years of them being named coach, then taking that team to premiership glory again.

Look at Watters at Saints or Buckley at Pies.

Scott almost pinched another last year and this year the Cats are 3-0.
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Blind Freddy could have coached that team.. They had a core senior group of about 14 guys that didn't need coaching, they had a club wide development system that meant that all 44 players knows the game plan inside and out.. they are/were quite simply a 'ready made' team.

Sorry but you can't compare what Scott took over to what Watters did.. St Kilda didn't win a flag because they simply weren't up to it.. and Lyon already knew their bottom six was weak, and it was made weaker by the fact that no young guys were blooded. So essentially there was no way St Kilda were going anywhere but down. Same with Buckley at the Pies.. he took over a senior list that had become 'party' first.. who did their own thing and who, in all reality, had achieved their best with a premiership. I know they came close, but like us in 2001.. the magic was gone..

Scott has the best recruitment team in the league and still has a core group of Selwood, Bartel, Johnson, Enright, Taylor, Mackie, Hawkins plus all the young guns that have now played their 30-40 games..

I agree that it will be over the next four or five years that we will see if Scott can coach.. when guys like Bartel, Johnson, Enright all move on... and the younger guys who came into the club AFTER Thompson left.. are playing.
 
Fin ice Smuggler said:
Naive remark against Scott, name 2 coaches who have taken over a team that won a premiership within 2\3 years of them being named coach, then taking that team to premiership glory again.

Look at Watters at Saints or Buckley at Pies.

Scott almost pinched another last year and this year the Cats are 3-0.
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How much of that was Scott and how much was Bomber?

We find out this year, Bomber hasn't coached the core of their current team.
 
Chappy's been limping around (at times) in all of the 3 matches because of the same ankle I think.

Cleary on one leg in the second half on Sunday night, definitely rest this week and if we win this week I'd be tempted to rest against saints and bring him back for Anzac day.
 
lenny2013 said:
Chappy's been limping around (at times) in all of the 3 matches because of the same ankle I think.

Cleary on one leg in the second half on Sunday night, definitely rest this week and if we win this week I'd be tempted to rest against saints and bring him back for Anzac day.
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Maybe sub v St Kilda just to ease back into it.
 
son of meto said:
To be honest I am loving just watching him rip it up...Watching him on the prowl, snapping goals, hitting up leading forwards...ahhhh he's a great footballer and top bloke.

Good luck to him. And good luck to the Dons for doing us all a favor!

I'll drop the negativity about the Geelong forum from now! Thanks for your forebearance.
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Good attitude. I still like watching Monfries play even though it's for Port. I was glad to see Crameri have a good game. I think it's more than fair to like most of your own teams ex-players and when they are a amongst your best you should always love em. Does a disservice to what they gave to your club.
 
Kaiser Powser said:
Paul Chapman in the red and black:

I feel like a married man having an affair with a super model, it doesn't feel right, but oh boy is it good!
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A bald, bearded super model :p
 

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Loved this bit:

Despite being just three games into his stint at the Bombers, Chapman also confirmed that he was intent on playing again in 2015.
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I have no doubt Bomber Thompson will be at the club next year. He is happy, club is happy.. and he wants to a flag no doubt and EFC is one of the best places to do that over the next 2-3 years...
 
The thing about Geelong is that they've got a great recruiting team combined with the fact that they've had a stand-alone VFL team since 2000, which has given them full control over the development of their kids. In that time, they have won 3 VFL flags and played in 2 more Grand Finals. Look at the names of some of those VFL premiership players (that 2002 team, wow!) Their development program as a whole through the vehicle of their VFL team is top notch.

They have had a number of elite players in the last decade and Chapman was/is definitely one of them. He wanted to stay, wasn't asking for a stupid amount of money but most importantly, wanted to play as many games as possible. None of this seems unreasonable, as even the injury that blighted much of his 2013 season was a one-off up until that stage of his career. Probably the most poignant reminder of Chapman's worth as a footballer, even after his injury-plagued 2013, was him being BOG in a tight SF against a VERY plucky Port Adelaide before having to watch on as his Cats coughed up a healthy 3QT lead and displayed some very un-Geelong-like losses of composure (which is something Chapman has never had an issue with btw) in key moments in the PF v Hawthorn.

They were a kick away from another Grand Final. IMO, their window was far from shut. So why did they feel the need to offer a somewhat insulting offer to a club great (who had previously knocked back more $$ elsewhere to stay and be successful) in order to fast-track kids who were already being introduced to an exceptional development program? Chris Scott has stuffed up here.
 

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ankllle, Soooore ankle, ankle sore.
 
Ben the Gooner said:
You're the sort of fan I feel sorry for in this whole mess. Your club has made an appalling error, you know it, I know it, and you're the one suffering for it as one of your favourite players is tearing it up in the wrong colours.

The fans who tried to justify it by making it all about how Chappy was done, how it was all for money, whatever, I have no sympathy for them, but the honest fans like yourself, it's not a fair situation for you.
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I do not think you understand the situation completely. Undoubtedly contact had already occurred between Chappie and a certain ex-Geelong coach before negotiations took place last year. No player over 30 gets more than a one year contract at Geelong, not even Mathew Scarlett, yet Chappie asked for a two year contract and a guarantee of a minimum number of games. It must have appeared to the Geelong negotiators that Chappie in asking for the unobtainable had something else in mind. Eventually it was Chappie who chose to leave, not Geelong who chose to dump him.

Geelong were in a lose/lose position, to have given Chappie what he wanted would have been a slap in the face to people like Enright, SJ and previously to Scarlett, Corey and others, it was never going to happen, and Chappie knew that. Obviously Chappie had decided to leave before negotiations took place, that is unfortunate and everybody at Geelong is disappointed but we cannot have one rule that applies to everyone but exceptions for one player.

There is no bad feeling at Chappie or at Bomber or the Bombers, we wish him the absolute best and as all know he is a Geelong legend, 251 games and three premierships cannot be duplicated in two or three seasons he may have with Essendon, hence as he has already said when he finally hangs up his boots it will be the Cats that he will come home to.

On a personal note, love Chappie and hope he has a cracker season for you guys, love Bomber and hope last seasons unfortunate headlines are replaced by good news for your club.
 

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