Traded #30: Patrick Ryder - Traded to Port for pick 17 and 37

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Why do the meeja keep saying Port are opting to go to the grievance tribunal? why are Port going, what has the saga got to do with them?

As it stands, Paddy is still an Essendon listed player, he can go to tribunal, but surely Port aren't to go anywhere near it?

Or is it just meeja just being their inept selves and wrongly assuming things rather than actually researching?
Yeah. At the very least, it seems to be strange wording.

Or something really isn't right.
 

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I hope ryder has enjoyed being out of the media spotlight.

This deal could be a good thing, piss of the entire competition so that it isn't just essendon fans booing him, he could get it every week.

Of course the communication specialists will put it down to racism.
 

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I hope ryder has enjoyed being out of the media spotlight.

This deal could be a good thing, piss of the entire competition so that it isn't just essendon fans booing him, he could get it every week.

Of course the communication specialists will put it down to racism.
No they would blame us for being difficult to trade with. After all, we are being the difficult ones insisting Port pay a fair price for a CONTRACTED player.
 

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That is how I read the rules too.

Our first round pick doesn't 'disappear' so to speak.. we are just forced to 'pass' but our draft position is the same. So IF we got a compo that was 'after' our first round pick.. then it would be #13.. not the pick after our COMPO pick..

So we would end up with #13 + #18 + #21 for Ryder + EKav.

I don't like how it has happened but ultimately that might be enough to get this thing done and finished. This situation will never be repeated.

Personally I would do the following:
EKav + #53 = #18 + #37
Ryder FA = #13

I would then trade #37 to Gold Coast for Gorringe.
I would then trade #71 to GWS for Giles



Ruck Stocks solved.. and we end up with trade period balance sheet:
Picks: #13, #18, #21, #53, #89
Players: Gorringe, Giles

Lose: Ryder, Ekav and #71
I would think Gorringe is worth more than 37. But then again O'Rourke just went for 19 when he was a no.2 pick...
 

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Are you sure they didn't? http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-10-08/patrick-ryder-trade-update





If the club has indeed come up with this because they believe they'll get pick 13 out of this, then I'm actually thinking this is a genius move now. But it's still going to result in more hate coming towards the club.

EFC get picks 13 and 18, in the process trimming a possibly non-essential player. And Port get Ryder + potentially a depth or development player for just pick 17 (only becomes 18 if FA comes into it). So many clubs and so many supporters will be so mad; because that's a win for both clubs IMO.
If anyone gets mad we just say it was afl endorsed...
 

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Well I don't see how that makes sense.. considering that #20 is not our draft position.. it is a compo pick.

The AFL have stated the pick would come 'after our first pick in the National Draft'.. doesn't say anything about draft position there... So presumably if we could trade for #1.. then OUR FIRST PICK is #1.. thus the compo would be #2...
You have failed to take into account AFL rule #5556969

"the AFL have the ability to make shit up as they go"
 

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Look.. I've openly said the whole thing stinks.. and it is slippery slope..

But Reid wouldn't be worth a 'band 1' compo pick.. so it is irrelevant.. But YES in theory.. if Collingwood loses a band 1 FA.. then the compo would be directly after their first pick.. which is now #5..

You quoted a 'communications specialist' to make your point.. but now you say we should ignore them? makes no sense..
Compo picks come after ladder order draft pick. Essendons should be at 13.
 

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Ryder and his manager have threatened to activate the clause. How can it be a breach of contract when he signed a 4 year contract at the start of 2013 and the supplement program was in 2012?
 

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Ryder and his manager have threatened to activate the clause. How can it be a breach of contract when he signed a 4 year contract at the start of 2013 and the supplement program was in 2012?
Had finished prior to him signing the contract. All the issues relate to start/mid 2012. He also signed the player consent form and did not object to any of this for 2 years.

If he goes down this path, he should be erased form the footy club. It will be one of the biggest dog acts in the history of our club by supposedly one of our own.
 
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