Past #31: David Hale - drafted at #7 in the Superdraft - 129 games for NM - traded to HFC in 2010

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They showed a replay of the last decision at the ground and it looked like a truly horrible call. Was actually a terrific mark.

However that is now just 24 goals in 15 games from Hale - pretty much playing the whole time at FF too.
 

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Holding from both players = play on.
Spot on.

I was actually happy with the umpires. They were hopeless our way mostly in general play, except Hale got completely dudded twice for 2 certain goals and the Simpson goal looked OK from where I sat.

I can't agree with the Pratt stuff up though. He played on to the side and tried to be too cute.

Hale's first half was probably scraping the bottom of the barrel but he at least kept his feet after half time. Let's hope he can kick on from here.
 
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If you haven't seen the replay of that last mark, it is a joke.

At the pub I watchd the replay, it was 100% agreement from North and Richmond.

It was a great mark.


The thing about Hale, is he seems to know how to stand up when the pressure is on. When it gets close, he keeps his feet and contests beautifully. Problem is, when the game is not in the balance, he has been hitting the ground like a bitch.

Very frustrating.
 

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If you haven't seen the replay of that last mark, it is a joke.

At the pub I watchd the replay, it was 100% agreement from North and Richmond.

It was a great mark.


The thing about Hale, is he seems to know how to stand up when the pressure is on. When it gets close, he keeps his feet and contests beautifully. Problem is, when the game is not in the balance, he has been hitting the ground like a bitch.

Very frustrating.
I just wish you sat near me & Zondor today Zebs. The NM supporters around us were very critical of Buddy Hale today. Hales first half was a disgrace.
 
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Hale gave away three free kicks and to be honest didn't take that many marks early in the game.
Also the sitter he missed in the second quarter really hit my nerve.
I have had enough of him, if he wants to be the No.1 foward in this team he has the convert the basic kicks, and provide strong leads that will always be marked when delivered right.

He is on thin ice at the moment in my opinion.
 

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awful grandstanding decision by the umpire to pay a free against Hale in the dying seconds. Exactly what they're paid not to do. Ruined the game. Right in front of me me and a bunch of Richmond supporters who couldn't believe their luck. We'd had a good run in the second half from them until then to be fair.
 

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I have been as critical of him more than most, but when we started to get the footy deeper, he was all over them. Two goals taken from him, a great square up kick to Harding for his goal, two for himself (including one to put us in front) and robbed blind of the winner.
 

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Also the sitter he missed in the second quarter really hit my nerve.

He is on thin ice at the moment in my opinion.
I've been resistant to the persistent calls to dump him for much of the year, feeling that our forward entries don't really help him (mostly they don't). But it really goes against the grain to bleat about the 'shouldabeen' mark when you don't kick the 'shouldabeen' goals!

"Was it a mark? Obviously I thought it was a mark," Hale said.

"Should a forward kick easy goals? Obviously I think forwards should kick easy goals," Kimbo said.
 

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I have been as critical of him more than most, but when we started to get the footy deeper, he was all over them. Two goals taken from him, a great square up kick to Harding for his goal, two for himself (including one to put us in front) and robbed blind of the winner.
The last three weeks he has looked much better, without reaping the full rewards.
Should have had two more goals, and missed a sitter.
Just needs something to kick his confidence over. That last mark may have been it.
Well done maggots.:thumbsdown:
 

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The last three weeks he has looked much better, without reaping the full rewards.
Should have had two more goals, and missed a sitter.
Just needs something to kick his confidence over. That last mark may have been it.
Well done maggots.:thumbsdown:
As much as it's been ****ing annoying, he is a good kick. Not all that concerned.

I just want 100% effort. I would actually like to see him get reported or suspended for charging into a few blokes. I want broken ribs. He is a massive bloke and he needs to impact every contest.
 

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The last three weeks he has looked much better, without reaping the full rewards.
Should have had two more goals, and missed a sitter.
Just needs something to kick his confidence over. That last mark may have been it.
Well done maggots.:thumbsdown:
Thing is...I was prepared to rationalise that he's played shit because of the Laidley game plan. The ball was moved slow, he'd have to competer against 2-3 each time.

Today in the 2nd half he got everything a forward could wish for. he had one on ones pumped down his throat and could not do a whole loe
 

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agree with all of that

but jeez i would feel a lot more sorry for him if he could kick a goal from 15m out straight in front
Not sure if you were at the game but there was a howling cross breeze that at times blew up and when he took that shot a gust blew up that would have required him to be aiming at the behind post it was that savage. A few players got gibbed when a gust blew in as they were having a shot on goal. You just can't allow for it if it hits just as you sink your boot into the kick.
 
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I have been as critical of him more than most, but when we started to get the footy deeper, he was all over them. Two goals taken from him, a great square up kick to Harding for his goal, two for himself (including one to put us in front) and robbed blind of the winner.
He was pretty soft in more than a few contests in the first half, but most of the time he had 2-3 up wth him in every contest. Then in the second half, we put Drew forward, he attracted another key defender and Hale found himself one one one a lot more.

It is pretty simple from where i sit. Leave them in the forward 50 together and things will work better. But we need Campbell back and we should be recruiting a back up crumber, because while Lindsay has got talent, he doesn't know how to stay down and get the ball when it comes to ground.
 

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They were hopeless our way mostly in general play, except Hale got completely dudded twice for 2 certain goals and the Simpson goal looked OK from where I sat.

I can't agree with the Pratt stuff up though. He played on to the side and tried to be too cute.
Pratt should have got 50 metres. The ump made a clear error in judgement. The Richmond player should NOT have been that close to a player with a set kick - a clear 50 metre penalty.

I thought Hale was robbed for most of the day, particularly the last mark. With decent umpiring he would have kicked four or five goals which is a tidy return.

I thought overall the umpiring was fairly even but we seemed to cop the dubious frees where we would have otherwise kicked goals.
 

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Hale's first quarter was pretty good I must say but apart from that he was just atrocious. Absolutely atrocious for three quarters. Sick of him using his hands all the time to wrestle with the man he gets what he deserves when he keeps doing that.
 
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been critical of Hale but the guy looks ok when he is on the lead....

when he has some space and the delivery is ok he looks like a FF....
the kicking will come with confidence.....

if we can continue to get it in quickly and he continues to present then who knows...

if we go back to trying to drop it on his head when he is being double teamed then its a lost cause.
 

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Hale's first quarter was pretty good I must say but apart from that he was just atrocious. Absolutely atrocious for three quarters. Sick of him using his hands all the time to wrestle with the man he gets what he deserves when he keeps doing that.
You think Hale actually chooses to initiate the wrestling? You must be an umpire.
 

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He was pretty soft in more than a few contests in the first half, but most of the time he had 2-3 up wth him in every contest. Then in the second half, we put Drew forward, he attracted another key defender and Hale found himself one one one a lot more.

It is pretty simple from where i sit. Leave them in the forward 50 together and things will work better. But we need Campbell back and we should be recruiting a back up crumber, because while Lindsay has got talent, he doesn't know how to stay down and get the ball when it comes to ground.
Zebs. You are Mr Know it All when it comes to Hales. Do yah think he is suited to Full Forward or Centre Half Forward?

I personally think when Hales plays Centre Half Forward he tends to lead a hell of a lot more and finds himself in the play. At Full Forward he tries to use his non existent strength.

Thoughts?
 

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Zebs. You are Mr Know it All when it comes to Hales. Do yah think he is suited to Full Forward or Centre Half Forward?

I personally think when Hales plays Centre Half Forward he tends to lead a hell of a lot more and finds himself in the play. At Full Forward he tries to use his non existent strength.

Thoughts?
Spot on Z.... Hale needs to get away from his opponant and stop trying to get into wrestling he has 10 foot long arms if he plays in front no-one can out mark him, since he has gone to full forward he has lost the plot needs to watch some tapes of Dunstal, Lockett ect as he doesn't move more than 10 meters in a lead.I think he's been a total failure at full forward and needs to go back into the ruck and offload goldstein and just have hale and H as the ruckman drew at chb edwards or wunke at full forward ,at least they know how to play that position.
 
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