Player Watch #32 Samson Ryan

[Coach_Required]

Would like to remind everyone who is currently having a cry about no 1st round draft pick this year.

Samson Ryan:

Draft	No. 40, 2020 AFL draft

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

We have found our new number #12

 

[Morro]

In good conditions, with Lynch back and Jack playing higher up the ground, this kid will explode over the course of the year.

 

[BearMe]

Samson is progressing well needs weight in 2 years we finally may have genuine size ruckman

 

[Noidnadroj]

Would like to remind everyone who is currently having a cry about no 1st round draft pick this year.

Samson Ryan:

Draft	No. 40, 2020 AFL draft

Spot on …. it’s why all this ‘panic’ about the Hopper F1 pick and TT trade is just stupid.

Having a look at the 2020 draft, in a re-done draft Samson Ryan definitely goes top-10. In a re-do of the 2019 draft Cumberland goes top-20. As we know, Bolton goes top-3. Balta goes top-10. Baker top-10. Of course the odds of getting a ‘better’ player increase higher up the draft order, but there’s very little chance of getting anyone better than TT at 12 or 19 (he was pick #2 for a reason).

And for whatever weird reason we seem to do better with picks 25+ anyway.

Samson Ryan looks like being an absolute beauty, and exactly what we need for the future. He showed more in a shocking game against GC in his 7th game than CCJ has shown his entire career thus far. He’s got ‘Joe the goose’ Chol well covered too!

Thank heavens we didn’t give up $1m per season for 4-years to keep CJ and Chol on the list….oh my ! The melting in BF was hard when we lost both those guys, but once again, the club knew better than BF experts.


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[tiger_tough]

Spot on …. it’s why all this ‘panic’ about the Hopper F1 pick and TT trade is just stupid.

Having a look at the 2020 draft, in a re-done draft Samson Ryan definitely goes top-10. In a re-do of the 2019 draft Cumberland goes top-20. As we know, Bolton goes top-3. Balta goes top-10. Baker top-10. Of course the odds of getting a ‘better’ player increase higher up the draft order, but there’s very little chance of getting anyone better than TT at 12 or 19 (he was pick #2 for a reason).

And for whatever weird reason we seem to do better with picks 25+ anyway.

Samson Ryan looks like being an absolute beauty, and exactly what we need for the future. He showed more in a shocking game against GC in his 7th game than CCJ has shown his entire career thus far. He’s got ‘Joe the goose’ Chol well covered too!

Thank heavens we didn’t give up $1m per season for 4-years to keep CJ and Chol on the list….oh my ! The melting in BF was hard when we lost both those guys, but once again, the club knew better than BF experts.


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Not sure about that Ed. Not yet anyway.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Can see the upside in Ryan.Just need to get games into him.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Very happy with Sampson. 2 more years of physical development and he will be able to compete with the monsters. Looks like a future KPF and ruck. We need a mobile KPF to work with him. But nice way to fill a hole in our list.

 

[Joker91]

Very happy with Sampson. 2 more years of physical development and he will be able to compete with the monsters. Looks like a future KPF and ruck. We need a mobile KPF to work with him. But nice way to fill a hole in our list.

Him and Lynch or another lynch type down the track would work fine together.
As long as the “third tall” isn’t slow.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Very happy with Sampson. 2 more years of physical development and he will be able to compete with the monsters. Looks like a future KPF and ruck. We need a mobile KPF to work with him. But nice way to fill a hole in our list.

He needs more strength but also a bigger tank to run better. As you say, 2 more pre-seasons, very interesting to see how he looks physically and craft wise as a 24yo. His skill and intent look first rate.

 

[Dr Tigris]

He needs more strength but also a bigger tank to run better. As you say, 2 more pre-seasons, very interesting to see how he looks physically and craft wise as a 24yo. His skill and intent look first rate.

Absolutely. Looks like he can be a good b grade KPF and ruck. Not sure about A grade, but that would be amazing.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Him and Lynch or another lynch type down the track would work fine together.
As long as the “third tall” isn’t slow.

2 very tall slower types is a bit problematic, but workable if we surround them with speed. Interesting to see where it all ends up

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Big Big upside with Ryan

He is just a colt at the moment thats unsure when to Jump and when to bump and when to lead but in 2 years time he will be stronger through the core and alot more strength and experience

He will be a massive handful for defenders and Ruckman
I really like this kid

We have found 1 here

 

[SouthernStripes]

Got a really nice kicking action for someone so tall. When he fills out that bit more over the next couple of years gonna be a tough match up - been nice to see him develop this year as I always felt sorry for him after such a shitty debut. Would have felt like a lifetime for him before he got back in the firsts again I reckon!

 

[Muddiemoose]

Think it was 20% skill 80% tin assness but how good was that roving goal out of the ruck

 

[tiger_tough]

Think it was 20% skill 80% tin assness but how good was that roving goal out of the ruck

Bit harsh, 50/50 maybe. At least he had a crack at it.

 

[Defibrillate]

Going to ask an odd question - should we bother developing him as a ruckman at all? He’s a more than competent key forward with a great kick, decent leading and key forwards are worth their weight in gold. He seems (currently) too light for rucking - easily pushed off the ball by Witts on the weekend - and just doesn’t seem overly skilled at it. It seems every ruckman at some point does a PCL in the ruck and quite a few end up with syndesmosis injuries in the last few years.

Is he too valuable at this stage to play in the ruck and should we even bother moving forward?

 

[tiger_tough]

Going to ask an odd question - should we bother developing him as a ruckman at all? He’s a more than competent key forward with a great kick, decent leading and key forwards are worth their weight in gold. He seems (currently) too light for rucking - easily pushed off the ball by Witts on the weekend - and just doesn’t seem overly skilled at it. It seems every ruckman at some point does a PCL in the ruck and quite a few end up with syndesmosis injuries in the last few years.

Is he too valuable at this stage to play in the ruck and should we even bother moving forward?

I think he'll end up a ruckman after Nank retires. He's 2nd in the league of all ruckman for hitout to advantage % and 15th for hitout win %. Pretty impressive for a bloke that's played 6 games. Fortunately, he looks like a legit forward option too.

 

[Coach_Required]

Going to ask an odd question - should we bother developing him as a ruckman at all? He’s a more than competent key forward with a great kick, decent leading and key forwards are worth their weight in gold. He seems (currently) too light for rucking - easily pushed off the ball by Witts on the weekend - and just doesn’t seem overly skilled at it. It seems every ruckman at some point does a PCL in the ruck and quite a few end up with syndesmosis injuries in the last few years.

Is he too valuable at this stage to play in the ruck and should we even bother moving forward?

I was on the just make him a forward train but his ruck work will only get better once his body fills out a bit. My only concern is for his knees if he plays ruck but the ruck rules seem to change over the years to limit injuries.

 

[Daka]

Going to ask an odd question - should we bother developing him as a ruckman at all? He’s a more than competent key forward with a great kick, decent leading and key forwards are worth their weight in gold. He seems (currently) too light for rucking - easily pushed off the ball by Witts on the weekend - and just doesn’t seem overly skilled at it. It seems every ruckman at some point does a PCL in the ruck and quite a few end up with syndesmosis injuries in the last few years.

Is he too valuable at this stage to play in the ruck and should we even bother moving forward?

I wouldn't call him a great kick, I'd say decent enough for his height.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

In good conditions, with Lynch back and Jack playing higher up the ground, this kid will explode over the course of the year.

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

Going to ask an odd question - should we bother developing him as a ruckman at all? He’s a more than competent key forward with a great kick, decent leading and key forwards are worth their weight in gold. He seems (currently) too light for rucking - easily pushed off the ball by Witts on the weekend - and just doesn’t seem overly skilled at it. It seems every ruckman at some point does a PCL in the ruck and quite a few end up with syndesmosis injuries in the last few years.

Is he too valuable at this stage to play in the ruck and should we even bother moving forward?

Good question...at this early stage I just see him being managed forward then ruck relief...
Just all depends on his body maturing as to how he gets played in the future...without destroying both his confidence and body! But all the same...very good signs so far for the youngster!...rapt for him!

 

[energyquant]

If we are very very lucky we will get to have our own Tim English / Max Gawn

11

Max Gawn

Age

34

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

story. Don't get impatient though. We have 500 pages of comments to fill up first that oscillate between "greatest ruck/forward since X" and "dud/delist" (usually in the space of a few games).

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

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I used to love that feeling

 

[SplintWhisky]

Good Test for the lad in the ruck this week. He isnt going to be clunking them as the heavens rain down but is up against a similar sized ruckman who also has under 50 games.