Player Watch #32 Samson Ryan

[T4P]

As a neutral and interested observer who watched a bit of this kid before he was drafted, what is apparent to me is that he seems to have gone backwards in some of his best traits in the search of improving his weaknesses, but the improvement hasn't come.

As an 18/19 year old his strengths were his agility for a big man, the way he got around the ground and he was a decent overhead mark (though didn't love contact when it came) - he also had excellent skills and was clean below his knees.

He was also a good centre bounce ruckman if it was an old fashioned jump off, but if a stronger oppo ruck wanted to step across the line and engage, or just around the ground - he struggles in the wrestle.

Now, in the 5 year search for more size and strength in the contest and trying to get better engaging in a wrestle - he seems to have lost all his agility, he spills uncontested marks and he is fumbly below the knees - it would also appear that he has lost any sort of running capacity.

Almost like they are trying to turn him into something he isn't. He is non Nankervis and never will be, nor is he Big Oscar or Jarrod Witts. He is more the athletic running ruckman (like a really really poor mans Dean Cox or the best comparison would be Josh Fraser) - but they are trying to turn him into Darren Jolly, when he is more like a Josh Fraser.

Now Fraser never lived up to the hype, but he had a serviceable 200 game career and had he spent more of his career as a #2 ruck and playing forward - he would have had a much better career than he did getting bashed around as a #1 that wasn't quite up to it.

Samson is Josh Fraser, not Darren Jollly - work on his strengths, he isn't going to overcome the lack of competitiveness and strength around the contest - its clearly both a mental and a physical thing, end of the day some people just aren't wired like that to compete like their life depended on it.

Gets a real opportunity this weekend to prove himself.

A big whipping boy on here. Wish him all the best.

 

[tropicaltiger]

not sure what the poo storm is about with his criticism and selection, i'd love him in for the next 3 or 4 weeks while lynch is recovering and also allow nank to have a week off. we need to find out if he might blossom and end up half as good as max gawn

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Max Gawn

Age

34

Ht

209cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.7

4star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

35.3

5star

D

18.5

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

7.0

4star

CL

3.5

4star

HO

29.2

5star

D

8.4

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

15.6

5star

or just be a bit of a nothing player like a half as good trent knobel

Trent Knobel

Age

45

Ht

204cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.8

1star

K

2.1

1star

HB

3.7

3star

HO

15.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

1.8

1star

K

0.8

1star

HB

1.0

2star

HO

7.4

5star

. bloke needs a crack at the highest level like all those boys that will never be superstars but might end up giving you 150+ solid games

 

[Coach_Required]

I heard he spent the whole time on the sidelines doing planks and his core strength is the best in the club.

Never getting pushed off the ball in a contest again.

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

Gets a real opportunity this weekend to prove himself.

A big whipping boy on here. Wish him all the best.

He's had plenty of opportunities and failed every single time, he's a bush footballer nothing more

 

[Forensi Tiger]

He's had plenty of opportunities and failed every single time, he's a bush footballer nothing more

Your right but when I turned up to night clubs time and time again hoping a girl would say yes I knew they wouldn’t but I just had turn up anyway in the hope it would be different

 

[_RT_]

Not expecting the world from Samson tomorrow night, but if he can start to show that he can be a solid ruck it's going to help us long term as it's one less position that we need to find a solution for.

 

[Football Tragic]

Ryan has always been a great mark and kick for goal but he is just too easily pushed aside. Every mature backman and ruck will initiate early body contact, stopping his leap. I hope he brings out the mongrel and steps into Lynch's role to at least draw multiple opponents so our young forwards can shine. If the defenders lose respect for him, the focus will go on the kids.

I've got everything crossed for him to have the breakout game we have been all praying for.

 

[juss]

I've actually thought number 1 ruck would be Ryan's best position, he's just not a forward.

Thinking he might go okay and show that he's got potential as a number 1 ruck long term.

 

[Barnzy]

#1 ruck is a much better role for him than forward. Up against an ancient Goldstein.

If he has any promise at all as the future ruck he should be breaking even at worst or winning this match up. If Goldstein beats him that's not good.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

#1 ruck is a much better role for him than forward. Up against an ancient Goldstein.

If he has any promise at all as the future ruck he should be breaking even at worst or winning this match up. If Goldstein beats him that's not good.

should shit all over him really, any decent ruckman would dine out on OAP goldstein.

 

[Frustrated Tiger]

Would love to see him take a mark with both hands. He reminds me of this....

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Would love to see him take a mark with both hands. He reminds me of this....View attachment 2322045

his biggest weakness is being shit

 

[tigers12]

One of the worst players I have ever seen and that’s saying something

 

[Crumpet_avenger]

One of the worst players I have ever seen and that’s saying something

Tell that to Karp3_dm

 

[Crumpet_avenger]

 

[Karp3_dm]

Tell that to Karp3_dm

Another game closer to 50

Let’s hope he can walk on 2 legs now

 

[lizard man]

Could Samson and nank coexist in the same team together?

 

[Trucker Tiger]

One of the worst players I have ever seen and that’s saying something

A little harsh but his three-year contract extension is the worst piece of list management I've ever seen.

 

[Vassp]

gotta show something. at least some balls.

 

[Tiger1974]

not sure what the poo storm is about with his criticism and selection, i'd love him in for the next 3 or 4 weeks while lynch is recovering and also allow nank to have a week off. we need to find out if he might blossom and end up half as good as max gawn or just be a bit of a nothing player like a half as good trent knobel. bloke needs a crack at the highest level like all those boys that will never be superstars but might end up giving you 150+ solid games

Spot on

 

[THE_GUN]

A little harsh but his three-year contract extension is the worst piece of list management I've ever seen.

How is it worse than Kosi

 

[Wooden Robot]

Good luck to him.
But I'm backing Goldy to turn back the clock and claim the Yiooken Award

 

[wegetpumped]

Your right but when I turned up to night clubs time and time again hoping a girl would say yes I knew they wouldn’t but I just had turn up anyway in the hope it would be different

Have you tries same sex i hear people have better luck now lol

 

[wegetpumped]

Not expecting the world from Samson tomorrow night, but if he can start to show that he can be a solid ruck it's going to help us long term as it's one less position that we need to find a solution for.

Mate an old man will run him over just by looking at him. Goldy will run rings around him.

 

[wegetpumped]

Would love to see him take a mark with both hands. He reminds me of this....View attachment 2322045

And thats after the little one ran rings around him lol