Player Watch #33: Ed Vickers-Willis - back in full training

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fusion

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Was he under done like half our freaking team?

If so would more conditioning prevented this?

fusion would be great to get a medical perspective on the second point.
Unfortunately it's not an area of expertise for me. I'm sure he had plenty of physios/strength and conditioning coaches etc before being cleared. Really feel for him - was playing well when he got injured last year
 

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As I am going through acl rehab myself, I asked my physio about recurrent ACL tears like EVW. He does some consulting for an AFL club here.

He just said that the data isn't there yet. Everybody's great strengthens at a different rate and no one will ever get ethics clearance to test the breaking point of a great at any given point in time. All we know is that it's not at full strength until 24 months after the reconstruction.

Plus there's always the higher risk of doing your other ACL due to movement patterns that become a new normal during recovery.

With regard to EVW, he believes that all they can do is reconstruct and then take a more conservative approach with return dates. He needs to pump some weights on the legs and hit some yoga.
 

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As I am going through acl rehab myself, I asked my physio about recurrent ACL tears like EVW. He does some consulting for an AFL club here.

He just said that the data isn't there yet. Everybody's great strengthens at a different rate and no one will ever get ethics clearance to test the breaking point of a great at any given point in time. All we know is that it's not at full strength until 24 months after the reconstruction.

Plus there's always the higher risk of doing your other ACL due to movement patterns that become a new normal during recovery.

With regard to EVW, he believes that all they can do is reconstruct and then take a more conservative approach with return dates. He needs to pump some weights on the legs and hit some yoga.
He’s done the ACL once. The previous 2 were PCLs.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t believe EVW has had recurrent ACL injuries.
Had a long term PCL and then ACL in round 1 2019.


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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t believe EVW has had recurrent ACL injuries.
Had a long term PCL and then ACL in round 1 2019.


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Someone already corrected, but the point still stands. Both ligaments responsible for knee stability in different directions.
 

Themanbun

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PCL’s are totally different, they are 95% of the time an impact injury rather than a twist injury
And yet they still use an autograft from which the data we have about their healing rate is insufficient. I don't think it's a huge stretch to say that the former PCL probably contributed to the ACL going pop. Doesn't mean our staff are doing a bad job, but these things happen and we just need to persist.
 
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Seen Ed on a couple of NMFC vids at Thommo's retirement and with the kids doing a anti-gambling advertising speel and he looks good.

With Thommo retired becomes very important to us and reckon he will come up with the goods in 2020. Small glimpses have shown how good he can be.

One positive going forward.
 
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Seen Ed on a couple of NMFC vids at Thommo's retirement and with the kids doing a anti-gambling advertising speel and he looks good.

With Thommo retired becomes very important to us and reckon he will come up with the goods in 2020. Small glimpses have shown how good he can be.

One positive going forward.
He’s was getting in his gym work on the Saturday morning open day last week.


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Even with Thompson retiring, it’s going to be tight for spots in the backline next year. Tarrant, jasper, Marley and alley are locks. That leaves 2 spots for daw, durdin, McKay, evw, McDonald, McMillan & Ahern. Daw back to his 2018 form is a lock and I think we need Ahern’s skill set as part of the back six. We need to get games into one of mckay or durdin too. Evw has a battle on his hands to win his spot back.
 

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