Certified Legendary Thread 34 Essendon* Players suspended for doping violations - No opposition fans. Check OP for thread rules

If Essendon* gets slapped on the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf, I will .......


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Ok... whats going to happen from here on in.

ASADA has issued 34 show cause notices to present and past Essendon* players (I think that we can safely say that Jobe is one of them).
The Essendon* players now have 10 days to provide proof that they didnt infringe on the ASADA doping rules or they can try and get a continuance to extend that 10 days for as long as they can. But eventually, they will have to provide the proof that they didnt take what they have been pinged for.

After the 10 days is up, if the Essendon* players havent responded or been given a continuance, they will be entered into the register of findings as having breached the ASADA rules against doping in sports
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ASADA will then have to send an infraction notice to AFL house for the players along with a recommendation as to the severity of any ban that they feel is warranted for the infraction.

The AFL special tribunal will have to meet up, review the infraction notices and then either rubber stamp them and issue the infraction notices to the players OR, they will have a special session where they will discuss a penalty to the players that is more in line with what the AFL feels is warranted for the situation

IF ASADA or WADA feels that the penalties enforced by the special AFL tribunal are not suitable, they are entitled to appeal the punishment meted out by the AFL either with the AFL or by going to either of the Australian supreme court or to CAS (Court of Arbitration for Sport) in Switzerland. If ASADA or WADA feel that the AFL isnt going to uphold their appeal against the penalties that ASADA or WADA wants, they will go straight to CAS.

The problem with CAS is that they can actually overturn any infraction penalties instead of upholding them or increasing them.
 

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For Crameri given he went to the Bulldogs......Legal Aid!
It was OK for the AFL to ban us from trading for the salary cap, but the drug cheats received the Zac Merrett pick for Crameri.

Whole AFL is as corrupt as buggery.

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Yada yada yada
 

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The beginning of the end.
Who knew today was going to end so well.

Essen-done's board must be going into meltdown.
Wonder what the Hirdites are thinking now.
You would hope this would finally make them recognise the grief their Messiah has inflicted on the club. This was all about Hird wanting to fast track the Dopers to premiership success despite not having the playing list capable of achieving such success.

I wonder if Paul Little is feeling a little bit stupid now after deciding to extend Hird's contract by 2 years in an act of defiance against the AFL.
 

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Okay then, assuming there is no impartiality, there's players (Monfries, Crameri), who have since left the club........the Essendon boys are having their legals taken care of, what about those two, assuming they are mentioned?
They will still be issued with infraction notices if they dont respond to the show cause notices... or if they do respond and can't provide sufficient proof that they didnt take TB4. In which case, they will cope the infraction notices.
 

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And I guess ASADA can step in if they don't think the penalties are appropriate.
That's the thing, the St Kilda bloke got done last year..........and they didn't lift a finger.

An entire club is going to go Supreme Court...........what are Footscray and Port going to do???
 

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WADA can come in over the top if they feel that the penalties applied by the AFL are too soft. And because of the team doping issue, WADA will be the ones taking this to CAS. There will be no going back to the AFL tribunal to get the penalties increased... because as we saw with the Saad incident, the AFL won't entertain an increase to the punishment they met out to AFL level players.

And numbers... the doggies and the powderpuffs are going to have to ask the AFL for a compensation pick if Morefrees and Crameri both get pinged for 18 months - 2 years.
 

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This has been building for weeks as ASADA held back the show causes, consolidating the case to ensure the upcoming legal stouch will not be lost. The only issue is time in my view. Whether we get a conclusion this year or in 2/3 years.

Bottom line this is going to get very ugly for the AFL and the sport.

Do we know who else have received show cause letters? I mean aside from Dank (who is denying it)...
 

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Basically this is operation shitstorm part 4 of 27. This will drag on and ruin another year and probably will go into a third year which is a complete joke.
 

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ASADA getting in a retired supreme court judge to go over the briefs for the show cause notices ensures that the briefs will stand up in court.

ASADA has given the players no room at all to try and weasel out of this. They are done... gone... kaput.

Superman couldnt even save them now.
 

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There's no precedent for that.

We are getting into policy on the run atm.
True... but if the two players the doggies and port picked up are both banned for 2 years, they have been dudded by Essendon after entering into an agreement with them in good faith.

It could come down to a case of caveat emptor... but I think that they would have a good case for getting a compensation pick if the players they traded in are banned.
 
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Dramoth was close but no cigar. The ASADA briefs and the players responses to the show cause letters go to the independent ADRV panel. The ADRVP then decide if there is sufficient evidence and if so enter the players names on the register of findings and forward the evidence to the special AFL drugs tribunal. The ADRVP acts like a committal hearing in the criminal system. There is no time limit on the time they take to evaluate the evidence.

At this point the players can appeal to the AAT on grounds that ASADA made procedural errors - not guilt or innocence. If unsuccessful they can then appeal to the federal court also only on procedural grounds.

Whilst under these appeals the players would not be suspended. Once exhausted normally the players would be stood down until the tribunal hearing.
 
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