Certified Legendary Thread 34 Essendon* Players suspended for doping violations - No opposition fans. Check OP for thread rules

If Essendon* gets slapped on the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf, I will .......


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I guess I just watch too much crap TV, but I'm waiting on it to come out next week that Monfries, Ryder and Crameri have all given evidence (substantial assistance type and gotten all the reductions available), commenced 6 month suspensions at the end of last year resulting in them only missing a week or two whilst the others are in all sorts of trouble
 

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I guess I just watch too much crap TV, but I'm waiting on it to come out next week that Monfries, Ryder and Crameri have all given evidence (substantial assistance type and gotten all the reductions available), commenced 6 month suspensions at the end of last year resulting in them only missing a week or two whilst the others are in all sorts of trouble
Wouldn't surprise me. It would certainly explain why they were so keen to get the hell out of Dodge. (If it were not enough to realise that they were part of a corrupt, doomed organisation led by a morally bereft narcissist.)
 

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I guess I just watch too much crap TV, but I'm waiting on it to come out next week that Monfries, Ryder and Crameri have all given evidence (substantial assistance type and gotten all the reductions available), commenced 6 month suspensions at the end of last year resulting in them only missing a week or two whilst the others are in all sorts of trouble
Two of them wanted this to be public, didn't they? Leads me to believe that either 2 aren't in league with their ex-teammates.
 

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100% right. The players have been rather complicit in this whole sideshow. They had the chance of coming clean months ago but continued to hide behind Essendon's* aprons believing in Hird that they had done nothing wrong. When in fact they were so far down the rabbit hole that they couldnt see daylight.

They will now be holding frantic conferences with their legal representation trying to work out how they can roll over on Essendon* and cop a deal now.
I love your work Dram but I disagree here. I actually think the players have acted smartly in their own best interests throughout. Firstly, get all legals sorted and paid for by the club and the AFLPA. Follow the professional coaching advice during your interviews with ASADA. Go along with the club's and Hird's attempt top get the whole thing buried for eternity as a free swing. Stick to your story that you don't believe you took anything illegal, but if you did, you were duped into it. That way if you are found guilty you can plead mitigating circumstances, cop your whack, and sue the club.

They haven't missed a game (apart from one finals match they would have most likely lost) in the two seasons this has gone on for, or spent a cent on the best legal team you could ask for, or had their identities confirmed. They have had such effective PR waged on their behalf that most people think they are unfortunate victims of the whole saga.

Considering that they are drug cheats by any standards that have previously applied to athletes the world over, they have done very well and will get out of it very well indeed.
 

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I love your work Dram but I disagree here. I actually think the players have acted smartly in their own best interests throughout. Firstly, get all legals sorted and paid for by the club and the AFLPA. Follow the professional coaching advice during your interviews with ASADA. Go along with the club's and Hird's attempt top get the whole thing buried for eternity as a free swing. Stick to your story that you don't believe you took anything illegal, but if you did, you were duped into it. That way if you are found guilty you can plead mitigating circumstances, cop your whack, and sue the club.

They haven't missed a game (apart from one finals match they would have most likely lost) in the two seasons this has gone on for, or spent a cent on the best legal team you could ask for, or had their identities confirmed. They have had such effective PR waged on their behalf that most people think they are unfortunate victims of the whole saga.

Considering that they are drug cheats by any standards that have previously applied to athletes the world over, they have done very well and will get out of it very well indeed.
The players are only able to have spent the last 2 years playing because of the actions of Essendon*. I seriously think that those players still at Essendon* are going to cop 2 years... no appeal available. There are going to be a number of them that will be forced to retire because of this and Essendon are going to have to pay out their remaining contracts.

Then there is also one more thing to consider. The AFL is going to have to seriously consider what it is going to do with Jab's Brownlow medal. If he is banned for a couple of years, then the AFL will have no choice but to strip it from him and enter an * next to 2012. They cant come along and say that his Brownlow is safe but he has been banned for taking illegal substances during the period for which he has subsequently been banned for.

The AFL could also consider suing the players who do get banned, along with the board members at Essendon* in 2011/12 for bringing the AFL brand into disrepute. So... I don't think that the players are going to be getting out of this all that well.
 

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Got some insight today. We should be preparing for players being suspended.
Not sure, but despite the reports and good vibes we have been fed are because of legal team being selective of information they have been feeding our players.

Asada can prove drugs were on site, purchased by club and a non documented injection regime was willingly participated in. The drugs were purchased within timeline of regime. No evidence drugs were disposed of or not used.

Players are preparing for suspensions. from the mouth of a parent
Before anyone questions my credibility. Ask yourself a couple of things.

1. Why would a one eyed essendon supporter want this?

2. Why would I make a complete 180 turnaround?

3. For those that know me on here, know I have a connection to one of the "34"

I have been staunch for 18 months until the hour long conversation that I had about it today.
When your own representation advises that you will be most likely suspended, even though a negative outcome will be appealed, then I know who I am backing in a two horse race.
 

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ASADA thread on the Essendon board

Thanks.

Some of those posters arent very accepting

Had a look at that posters history on the subject and he has done a backflip to find himself in the position he is in now.

Would love to know the sources that people are getting that say they will be fine.... Cerberus and Red Sash aside.
 
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Thanks.

Some of those posters arent very accepting

Had a look at that posters history on the subject and he has done a backflip to find himself in the position he is in now.

Would love to know the sources that people are getting that say they will be fine.... Cerberus and Red Sash aside.
Do we have an Understatement of the Year thread around here? Oh Lance.........
 

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Maybe this is why Slobbo and Let Spud have been super quiet?

They have still been getting their leaked information but don't report because it shows they've backed the wrong horse.
That is one strong piece of thread that this case is hanging by!
 
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