Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - Part 2

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Jack Graham part 1 didn't even reach 10k.
We're not really meant to let threads go over 100 pages and continue on. Certified legendary threads are probably the only ones we will let run out to the 10k limit.
 

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Not convinced he will be a regular next season. Other sides gave caught up and are playing the pressure game and Jack appears to be limited in what he does. Other players are in a similar position. Going to be an interesting round 1 team selection
 

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Needs to work on his ability to accumulate the footy. He needs to do more than crack in, pressure and tackle. Even Townsend is capable of that.
It’ll be tough for him to improve in that aspect I think because it’s a somewhat natural ability. I don’t think he’s the sort of player where you say Just get another pre season into him and that will benefit him because he was already such a physical beast at such a young age that’s not the problem. His pressure alone when he’s on can be crucial to helping us win matches so I definitely think he has a part to play in our future.
 

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It’ll be tough for him to improve in that aspect I think because it’s a somewhat natural ability. I don’t think he’s the sort of player where you say Just get another pre season into him and that will benefit him because he was already such a physical beast at such a young age that’s not the problem. His pressure alone when he’s on can be crucial to helping us win matches so I definitely think he has a part to play in our future.
His pressure is great, but the gameplan and gamewill evolve, we need him to be doing more than that otherwise he is literally a smaller version of Towsend but less dangerous up forward.
 

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UPDATE:

20 wins.
0 draws.
3 losses.

Plus scores, total scores, average scores, personal percentage, whether it was H&A, margins per game, accumulated margins and opponents.

  1. 155 - 51. (155 - 51.) (155 - 51.) (303.92%) (A.) (+ 104.) (+ 104.) (FREM.)
  2. 122 - 81. (277 - 132.) (138.5 - 66.) (209.84%) (H.) (+ 41.) (+ 145.) (STK.)
  3. 91 - 40. (368 - 172.) (122.66 - 57.33.) (213.95%) (A.) (+ 51.) (+ 196.) (GEEL.)
  4. 103 - 67. (471 - 239.) (117.75 - 59.75.) (197.07%) (H.) (+ 36.) (+ 232.) (GWS.)
  5. 108 - 60. (579 - 299.) (115.8 - 59.8.) (193.64%) (A.) (+ 48.) (+ 280.) (ADEL.)
  6. 121 - 95. (700 - 394.) (116.67 - 65.66.) (177.66%) (H.) (+ 26.) (+ 306.) (CARL.)
  7. 82 - 118. (782 - 512.) (111.71 - 73.14.) (152.73%) (A.) (- 36.) (- 36.) (ADEL.)
  8. 102 - 89. (884 - 601.) (110.5 - 75.12.) (147.08%) (H.) (+ 13.) (+ 319.) (HAW.)
  9. 110 - 17. (994 - 618.) (110.44 - 68.66.) (160.84%) (H.) (+ 93.) (+ 412.) (BL.)
  10. 113 - 70. (1107 - 688.) (110.7 - 68.8.) (160.9%) (A.) (+ 43.) (+ 455.) (COLL.)
  11. 110 - 33. (1217 - 721.) (110.63 - 65.54.) (168.79%.) (H.) (+ 77.) (+ 532.) (FREM.)
  12. 82 - 72. (1299 - 793.) (108.25 - 66.08.) (163.80%.) (A.) (+ 10.) (+ 542.) (KANG.)
  13. 83 - 130. (1382 - 923.) (106.31 - 71.) (149.73%.) (A.) (- 47.) (- 83.) (Highest losing margin of the 2 games so far.) (Also, highest score conceded.) (WCE.)
  14. 105 - 77. (1487 - 1000.) (106.21 - 71.43.) (148.7%.) (H.) (+ 28.) (+ 570.) (STK.)
  15. 114 - 43. (1601 - 1043.) (106.73 - 69.53.) (153.5%.) (A.) (+ 71.) (+ 641.) (ESS.)
  16. 83 - 65. (1684 - 1108.) (105.25 - 69.25.) (152%.) (A.) (+ 18.) (+ 659.) (GEEL.)
  17. 93 - 67. (1777 - 1175.) (104.53 - 69.12.) (151.23%.) (H.) (+ 26.) (+ 685.) (SYD.)
  18. 103 - 56. (1880 - 1231.) (104.44 - 68.39.) (152.71%.) (H.) (+ 47.) (+ 732.) (ADEL.)
  19. 125 - 51. (2005 - 1286.) (105.53 - 67.68.) (155.91%.) (A.) (+ 74.) (+ 806.) (GC.)
  20. 81 - 73. (2086 - 1359.) (104.3 - 67.95.) (153.49%.) (H.) (+ 8.) (+ 814.) (ESS.)
  21. 98 - 95. (2184 - 1454.) (104 - 69.24.) (150.20%.) (H.) (+ 3.) (+ 817.) (New lowest winning margin plus highest score conceded when winning. (FOOT.)
  22. 95 - 64. (2279 - 1518.) (103.59 - 69.) (150.13%.) (H.) (+ 31.) (+ 848.) (Easily his quietest finals game.) (HAW.)
  23. 58 - 97. (2337 - 1615.) (101.61 - 70.22.) (144.7%.) (H.) (- 39.) (- 122.) (His lowest AFL score and highest losing AFL margin.) (COLL.)

10 of his 21 games have been in excess of 40 point wins.
5 of those 10 games, 70 point wins.

Average winning margin = 42.4 points.
Average losing margin = 40.67 points.
Average score of games he's played in = 85.91.

Bolded = premiership.
Italicised = losses.
Normal print = wins.
Draws = underlined and italicised.
 
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UPDATE:

20 wins.
0 draws.
3 losses.

Plus scores, total scores, average scores, personal percentage, whether it was H&A, margins per game, accumulated margins and opponents.

  1. 155 - 51. (155 - 51.) (155 - 51.) (303.92%) (A.) (+ 104.) (+ 104.) (FREM.)
  2. 122 - 81. (277 - 132.) (138.5 - 66.) (209.84%) (H.) (+ 41.) (+ 145.) (STK.)
  3. 91 - 40. (368 - 172.) (122.66 - 57.33.) (213.95%) (A.) (+ 51.) (+ 196.) (GEEL.)
  4. 103 - 67. (471 - 239.) (117.75 - 59.75.) (197.07%) (H.) (+ 36.) (+ 232.) (GWS.)
  5. 108 - 60. (579 - 299.) (115.8 - 59.8.) (193.64%) (A.) (+ 48.) (+ 280.) (ADEL.)
  6. 121 - 95. (700 - 394.) (116.67 - 65.66.) (177.66%) (H.) (+ 26.) (+ 306.) (CARL.)
  7. 82 - 118. (782 - 512.) (111.71 - 73.14.) (152.73%) (A.) (- 36.) (- 36.) (ADEL.)
  8. 102 - 89. (884 - 601.) (110.5 - 75.12.) (147.08%) (H.) (+ 13.) (+ 319.) (HAW.)
  9. 110 - 17. (994 - 618.) (110.44 - 68.66.) (160.84%) (H.) (+ 93.) (+ 412.) (BL.)
  10. 113 - 70. (1107 - 688.) (110.7 - 68.8.) (160.9%) (A.) (+ 43.) (+ 455.) (COLL.)
  11. 110 - 33. (1217 - 721.) (110.63 - 65.54.) (168.79%.) (H.) (+ 77.) (+ 532.) (FREM.)
  12. 82 - 72. (1299 - 793.) (108.25 - 66.08.) (163.80%.) (A.) (+ 10.) (+ 542.) (KANG.)
  13. 83 - 130. (1382 - 923.) (106.31 - 71.) (149.73%.) (A.) (- 47.) (- 83.) (Highest losing margin of the 2 games so far.) (Also, highest score conceded.) (WCE.)
  14. 105 - 77. (1487 - 1000.) (106.21 - 71.43.) (148.7%.) (H.) (+ 28.) (+ 570.) (STK.)
  15. 114 - 43. (1601 - 1043.) (106.73 - 69.53.) (153.5%.) (A.) (+ 71.) (+ 641.) (ESS.)
  16. 83 - 65. (1684 - 1108.) (105.25 - 69.25.) (152%.) (A.) (+ 18.) (+ 659.) (GEEL.)
  17. 93 - 67. (1777 - 1175.) (104.53 - 69.12.) (151.23%.) (H.) (+ 26.) (+ 685.) (SYD.)
  18. 103 - 56. (1880 - 1231.) (104.44 - 68.39.) (152.71%.) (H.) (+ 47.) (+ 732.) (ADEL.)
  19. 125 - 51. (2005 - 1286.) (105.53 - 67.68.) (155.91%.) (A.) (+ 74.) (+ 806.) (GC.)
  20. 81 - 73. (2086 - 1359.) (104.3 - 67.95.) (153.49%.) (H.) (+ 8.) (+ 814.) (ESS.)
  21. 98 - 95. (2184 - 1454.) (104 - 69.24.) (150.20%.) (H.) (+ 3.) (+ 817.) (New lowest winning margin plus highest score conceded when winning. (FOOT.)
  22. 95 - 64. (2279 - 1518.) (103.59 - 69.) (150.13%.) (H.) (+ 31.) (+ 848.) (Easily his quietest finals game.)
  23. 58 - 97. (2337 - 1615.) (101.61 - 70.22.) (144.7%.) (H.) (- 39.) (- 122.) (His lowest AFL score and highest losing AFL margin.) (COLL.)

10 of his 21 games have been in excess of 40 point wins.
5 of those 10 games, 70 point wins.

Average winning margin = 42.4 points.
Average losing margin = 40.67 points.
Average score of games he's played in = 85.91.

Bolded = premiership.
Italicised = losses.
Normal print = wins.
Draws = underlined and italicised.
You need to change your club supported back to Richmond, just saying
 

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Needs to work on his ability to accumulate the footy. He needs to do more than crack in, pressure and tackle. Even Townsend is capable of that.
I think he will. His first two years have been to establish the fundamentals. Next phase of his development is what you’ve touched on. I dont see this guy as being a forward half player. His role will be as that defensive mid. If he can rack up 20-25 touches a game with high contested numbers and decent DE that’s a massive tick.
 
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Jack Graham didn't even finish in the top 20 of our best & fairest.... that's concerning he played 18 games. Rioli only played 12 and was equal 20th with Conca.
 

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I don't think we will need to worry about Jack Graham at all. He has plenty of improvement still. I can see him becoming a genuine tagger even.
I think so too. He had no problems at all getting his hands on the ball as junior and i dont think anything has changed.

As far as i can see he had just two knocks on his game he was a big bodied mid and people were saying wrongly that there was no more upside to him as far as physicality goes. Shannon Hurn says hello to all that nonsense.
The other knock was he was a bit one dimensional and lacked a little bit of pace.
He is no slower than any other big inside mid going around and he covers the ground okay. the real key there is to be able to get to contest after contest and to go the other way with your opponent.
There is no problem with Jack Grahams aerobic capacity. He has been very effective in the defensive side of the game at AFL level he now needs to add a more offensive side to his game and i can really say i can not see any reason why this wont happen.

He now enters his third season and there is no way any thinking person would not continue to put more games into the likes of him and Higgins in the expectation that his game will continue to improve.
 
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