Player Watch #34: Jack Graham - Part 2

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RedmanWasHere

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Aug 23, 2010
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23 wins.
0 draws.
7 losses.
  1. 155 - 51. (155 - 51.) (155 - 51.) (303.92%) (A.) (FREM.)​
  2. 122 - 81. (277 - 132.) (138.5 - 66.) (209.84%) (H.) (STK.)​
  3. 91 - 40. (368 - 172.) (122.66 - 57.33.) (213.95%) (A.) (GEEL.)​
  4. 103 - 67. (471 - 239.) (117.75 - 59.75.) (197.07%) (H.) (GWS.)​
  5. 108 - 60. (579 - 299.) (115.8 - 59.8.) (193.64%) (A.) (ADEL.)
  6. 121 - 95. (700 - 394.) (116.67 - 65.66.) (177.66%) (H.) (CARL.)​
  7. 82 - 118. (782 - 512.) (111.71 - 73.14.) (152.73%) (A.) (ADEL.)
  8. 102 - 89. (884 - 601.) (110.5 - 75.12.) (147.08%) (H.) (HAW.)​
  9. 110 - 17. (994 - 618.) (110.44 - 68.66.) (160.84%) (H.) (BL.)​
  10. 113 - 70. (1107 - 688.) (110.7 - 68.8.) (160.9%) (A.) (COLL.)​
  11. 110 - 33. (1217 - 721.) (110.63 - 65.54.) (168.79%.) (H.) (FREM.)​
  12. 82 - 72. (1299 - 793.) (108.25 - 66.08.) (163.80%.) (A.) (KANG.)​
  13. 83 - 130. (1382 - 923.) (106.31 - 71.) (149.73%.) (A.) (Highest score conceded.) (WCE.)
  14. 105 - 77. (1487 - 1000.) (106.21 - 71.43.) (148.7%.) (H.) (STK.)​
  15. 114 - 43. (1601 - 1043.) (106.73 - 69.53.) (153.5%.) (A.) (ESS.)​
  16. 83 - 65. (1684 - 1108.) (105.25 - 69.25.) (152%.) (A.) (GEEL.)​
  17. 93 - 67. (1777 - 1175.) (104.53 - 69.12.) (151.23%.) (H.) (SYD.)​
  18. 103 - 56. (1880 - 1231.) (104.44 - 68.39.) (152.71%.) (H.) (ADEL.)​
  19. 125 - 51. (2005 - 1286.) (105.53 - 67.68.) (155.91%.) (A.) (GC.) (Good day to be a Jack for Richmond.)​
  20. 81 - 73. (2086 - 1359.) (104.3 - 67.95.) (153.49%.) (H.) (ESS.)​
  21. 98 - 95. (2184 - 1454.) (104 - 69.24.) (150.20%.) (H.) (FOOT.)​
  22. 95 - 64. (2279 - 1518.) (103.59 - 69.) (150.13%.) (H.) (+ 31.) (+ 848.) (Easily his quietest finals game.) (HAW.)​
  23. 58 - 97. (2337 - 1615.) (101.61 - 70.22.) (144.7%.) (H.) (COLL.)
  24. 97 - 64. (2434 - 1679.) (101.41 - 69.96.) (144.97%.) (A.) (His highest score in 3 games.) (CARL.)​
  25. 66 - 110. (2500 - 1789.) (100 - 71.56.) (139.74%.) (H.) (COLL.)
  26. 76 - 125. (2576 - 1914.) (99.1 - 73.62.) (134.58%.) (A.) (GWS.)
  27. 99 - 92. (2675 - 2006.) (99.1 - 74.3.) (133.35%.) (A but, technically for Jack, H.) (PA.)​
  28. 37 - 104. (2712 - 2110.) (96.86 - 75.36.) (128.53%.) (H.) (His highest losing AFL margin plus lowest losing score.) (GEEL.)
  29. 68 - 101. (2780 - 2211.) (95.86 - 76.24.) (125.73%.) (A but, technically for Jack, H.) (ADEL.)
  30. 103 - 70. (2883 - 2281.) (96.01 - 76.03.) (126.39%.) (H but, technically for Jack, A.) (ADEL.)​
Average score of games he's played in = 86.07.

Cumulative winning and losing margins are out and so are their averages.

Forever a centered thing this will be.

Can this be turned into a table?​
 

Shazza_

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23 wins.
0 draws.
7 losses.
  1. 155 - 51. (155 - 51.) (155 - 51.) (303.92%) (A.) (FREM.)​
  2. 122 - 81. (277 - 132.) (138.5 - 66.) (209.84%) (H.) (STK.)​
  3. 91 - 40. (368 - 172.) (122.66 - 57.33.) (213.95%) (A.) (GEEL.)​
  4. 103 - 67. (471 - 239.) (117.75 - 59.75.) (197.07%) (H.) (GWS.)​
  5. 108 - 60. (579 - 299.) (115.8 - 59.8.) (193.64%) (A.) (ADEL.)
  6. 121 - 95. (700 - 394.) (116.67 - 65.66.) (177.66%) (H.) (CARL.)​
  7. 82 - 118. (782 - 512.) (111.71 - 73.14.) (152.73%) (A.) (ADEL.)
  8. 102 - 89. (884 - 601.) (110.5 - 75.12.) (147.08%) (H.) (HAW.)​
  9. 110 - 17. (994 - 618.) (110.44 - 68.66.) (160.84%) (H.) (BL.)​
  10. 113 - 70. (1107 - 688.) (110.7 - 68.8.) (160.9%) (A.) (COLL.)​
  11. 110 - 33. (1217 - 721.) (110.63 - 65.54.) (168.79%.) (H.) (FREM.)​
  12. 82 - 72. (1299 - 793.) (108.25 - 66.08.) (163.80%.) (A.) (KANG.)​
  13. 83 - 130. (1382 - 923.) (106.31 - 71.) (149.73%.) (A.) (Highest score conceded.) (WCE.)
  14. 105 - 77. (1487 - 1000.) (106.21 - 71.43.) (148.7%.) (H.) (STK.)​
  15. 114 - 43. (1601 - 1043.) (106.73 - 69.53.) (153.5%.) (A.) (ESS.)​
  16. 83 - 65. (1684 - 1108.) (105.25 - 69.25.) (152%.) (A.) (GEEL.)​
  17. 93 - 67. (1777 - 1175.) (104.53 - 69.12.) (151.23%.) (H.) (SYD.)​
  18. 103 - 56. (1880 - 1231.) (104.44 - 68.39.) (152.71%.) (H.) (ADEL.)​
  19. 125 - 51. (2005 - 1286.) (105.53 - 67.68.) (155.91%.) (A.) (GC.) (Good day to be a Jack for Richmond.)​
  20. 81 - 73. (2086 - 1359.) (104.3 - 67.95.) (153.49%.) (H.) (ESS.)​
  21. 98 - 95. (2184 - 1454.) (104 - 69.24.) (150.20%.) (H.) (FOOT.)​
  22. 95 - 64. (2279 - 1518.) (103.59 - 69.) (150.13%.) (H.) (+ 31.) (+ 848.) (Easily his quietest finals game.) (HAW.)​
  23. 58 - 97. (2337 - 1615.) (101.61 - 70.22.) (144.7%.) (H.) (COLL.)
  24. 97 - 64. (2434 - 1679.) (101.41 - 69.96.) (144.97%.) (A.) (His highest score in 3 games.) (CARL.)​
  25. 66 - 110. (2500 - 1789.) (100 - 71.56.) (139.74%.) (H.) (COLL.)
  26. 76 - 125. (2576 - 1914.) (99.1 - 73.62.) (134.58%.) (A.) (GWS.)
  27. 99 - 92. (2675 - 2006.) (99.1 - 74.3.) (133.35%.) (A but, technically for Jack, H.) (PA.)​
  28. 37 - 104. (2712 - 2110.) (96.86 - 75.36.) (128.53%.) (H.) (His highest losing AFL margin plus lowest losing score.) (GEEL.)
  29. 68 - 101. (2780 - 2211.) (95.86 - 76.24.) (125.73%.) (A but, technically for Jack, H.) (ADEL.)
  30. 103 - 70. (2883 - 2281.) (96.01 - 76.03.) (126.39%.) (H but, technically for Jack, A.) (ADEL.)​
Average score of games he's played in = 86.07.

Cumulative winning and losing margins are out and so are their averages.

Forever a centered thing this will be.

Can this be turned into a table?​
are u related to him or something
 

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TigerImposter

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Straight out for Ross once he’s fit.
Caddy goes out for Ross as he’s slow as treacle and can’t play midfield . We need tough inside mids who can win the footy, otherwise teams like Geelong and Collingwood will chew us up again. Graham is a needed player.
 

joelsyt

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Caddy goes out for Ross as he’s slow as treacle and can’t play midfield . We need tough inside mids who can win the footy, otherwise teams like Geelong and Collingwood will chew us up again. Graham is a needed player.
See I agree with you on Graham.

He’s the one that’s going to do the bloody hard and dirty work his whole career that you don’t waste on talent like Jack Ross who would be completely wasted if he only did what graham does.

Both will be required and most probably in our best 22 by the end of their respective careers.
 

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See I agree with you on Graham.

He’s the one that’s going to do the bloody hard and dirty work his whole career that you don’t waste on talent like Jack Ross who would be completely wasted if he only did what graham does.

Both will be required and most probably in our best 22 by the end of their respective careers.
That’s the beauty of footy where people see some players differently and can have a discussion over their differences, yet they can agree on others. Probably the major social interaction you get from going to games as well as now on social media.
Imagine if we all thought alike?😋
 
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JAKLAUGHING

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That’s the beauty of footy where people see some players differently and can have a discussion over their differences, yet they can agree on others. Probably the major social interaction you get from going to games as well as now on social media.
Imagine if we all thought like?😋
Yeah but you would still be wrong! :think: ;) :p
 

Old M8

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Caddy goes out for Ross as he’s slow as treacle and can’t play midfield . We need tough inside mids who can win the footy, otherwise teams like Geelong and Collingwood will chew us up again. Graham is a needed player.
I agree we need tough inside miss who win the footy, but that’s not Graham. 18 touches for him is good, but with his limitations he needs to average 25, and he’s never exceeded 24 in his career.

Caddy out for Riewoldt imo.
 

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I agree we need tough inside miss who win the footy, but that’s not Graham. 18 touches for him is good, but with his limitations he needs to average 25, and he’s never exceeded 24 in his career.

Caddy out for Riewoldt imo.
Yes , but it’s not always about possessions in this game . He’s our genuine tackling machine and actually the only bloke who consistently does it well. He hurts teams defensively and his only knock atm is he’s got to do it more offensively. I think this will come with time as he builds up his engine and learns the role .
Dan Jackson took a few years to learn the role and won a best and fairest out of it , so we need to do the same with Graham. We need a good old fashioned hard nut stopper bc I’m sick of the top midfielders waltzing around and tearing us to bits. IMO JG is the most suitable guy on the list with age on his side.
 
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Dr Tigris

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I agree we need tough inside miss who win the footy, but that’s not Graham. 18 touches for him is good, but with his limitations he needs to average 25, and he’s never exceeded 24 in his career.

Caddy out for Riewoldt imo.
If Graham averaged 25 possessions and played his defensive role he'd be in line for AA. That's a very high bar you're setting.
 

Grrr

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Yes , but it’s not always about possessions in this game . He’s our genuine tackling machine and actually the only bloke who consistently does it well. He hurts teams defensively and his only knock atm is he’s got to do it more offensively. I think this will come with time as he builds up his engine and learns the role .
Dan Jackson took a few years to learn the role and won a best and fairest out of it , so we need to do the same with Graham. We need a good old fashioned hard nut stopper bc I’m sick of the top midfielders waltzing around and tearing us to bits. IMO JG is the most suitable guy on the list with age on his size.
Dan Jackson is probably a good comparison. Nobody had much time for him, yet he won a B & F. No class, but all heart. Wish Graham was a tad quicker. Could he replace Ellis on a wing down the track?
 

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Dan Jackson is probably a good comparison. Nobody had much time for him, yet he won a B & F. No class, but all heart. Wish Graham was a tad quicker. Could he replace Ellis on a wing down the track?
The reality is the 6-6-6 rule would suit him, but I think with JG it’s more about
the opponent he’s expected to pick up on the day and stop. A bit like how Sloane was carving up Prestia in the 1Q of the GF and then JG went to work on him. I really think he’s a guy that is not suited by locking into a position, but thrives more on doing a job on someone.
 

Grrr

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The reality is the 6-6-6 rule would suit him, but I think with JG it’s more about
the opponent he’s expected to pick up on the day and stop. A bit like how Sloane was carving up Prestia in the 1Q of the GF and then JG went to work on him. I really think he’s a guy that is not suited by locking into a position, but thrives more on doing a job on someone.
Yes he can do the lock down thing, but it might be underselling him perhaps. With his hardness and running ability, and being pretty clean, he could be a Gaff type winger. That's a stretch perhaps, but he is still so young.
 
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