Past #36: Shannon Watt - drafted at #14 in '97 ND - 155 games - 0 Brownlow votes - original whipping boy

Do you agree with the 'Watt' decision?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 51.2%
  • No

    Votes: 20 48.8%

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Melly017 said:
Yeah, Drew goes out to make mistakes to pi$$ you off F/D. Makes his week listenening to Computer Screen champions. Lets point out all the errors you made in your football career.:rolleyes:
Thats a really piss poor excuse.

He is a paid footballer and he goes out there to try. Everyone in the AFL tries, thats the thing. Saying that Petrie tries harder than the rest of the Roos players is stupid. He cannot kick, cannot take a contested mark to save himself and his decision making skills are shocking. Not to mention he takes forever to move and is incredibly slow.

He is a laughable footballer, have been saying it for over a year and a half now.

PS: Played a praccy match yesterday, had 20+ used it all.

Thank you :)


The match ups were poor from the start of the game.
Gibbo is not a CHB/FB. Not yet anyway. Nor will he be. not big enuff. The coach failed to show Kent any respect and it showed. He should have had Archer/Brown/Watt.
Archer on Kent?

No way would we do that, that is just as laughable as putting Gibson on him. Far too slow and would be giving away 10 cm. Brown would have been too slow for Kingsley too but atleast he knows how to read the play half decently. Watt? no thanks. Would be just as fast but Kingsley is the MUCH smarter footballer and would have ripped him to bits.

Jon Hay was the perfect choice, but he was down.

Move on.

Once again Brown can't seem to hold down one of the two key positions in the back line. And needs to offer something to the team rather than a crumbing forward as he has done for the last few weeks. Your a big back man play like one. or hold down CHF for a game.
I think we should just accept Brown as either a CHB or let him roam a la Adam Goodes and create play down the ground also helping the defence out now and again. Thats what we miss, a player who is helpful to our other defenders and makes their contests. We dont have that.

Perry did a fair job on Ottens, yes but the geelong players didn't need to kick it too him as Kent was 5 meters in the clear every into 50 they had. First game too early to tell. Hope he gets a job each week and isn't moved around.
Joel is a good young player, we cant expect him to play like this every game but just imagine if we had of blodded him earlier last year? heck him for Petrie would have suited me fine!

Should be in the team ahead of Watt.

Drew play's everywhere and is still but into the ruck with Hale and Hamish in the side. WTF is that???Drew play CHF present, lead, open it up act as a decoy, RUN, RUN, RUN. Or down back and hold a position, he was the match up for Ottens. In the Ruck. WHY?
He plays everywhere because Laidley will NEVER drop him. So when he plays a poor game in one position, he gets chucked down back and if he plays poorly there gets chucked up forward. We should call it the Petrie Cycle. He is a waste, cut out losses and trade him

Watt's moved to cover the holes Brown can't fill. And he is not a key position backman. Yet week in week out his put on the key player in the back line after being moved there cause someone else has failed. That's why we have got Hay, Brown, Rawlings, Perry. The coach has had him for three years, you should be able to teach something to him in three years? 100 games in and we still don't know. I would love to see Watt in the twos, that would mean one of the 6 other people that can play his role are playing it well enuff to replace him.
Watt is not a KPP backman? then please tell me, what is he?

He is so damn inconsistently crap in every other position and yet we find ourselves here every Monday morning arguing about if Watt has played a good game. In this case, he didnt play a good game. Once again his best is average and his worst is terrible. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather Joel Perry play instead of this pretend footballer. He is a fake, a phoney.

He makes a scapegoat and singles out Troy, at least troy ran the lines, linked up play and could go one on one. Thats why he was dragged to the last line and people tried to outmark him. He was a good playmaker.
Gee, this sums it up perfectly.

Laidley absolutely LOVES Drew Petrie. Troy has been the much better player out of the two and yet we continue to play a bloke who plays a semi decent game ever 5-6 games. Even when Hamish McIntosh was dominating EVER single game in the VFL last year, we continue with this "footballer".

Troy must feel dirty.

Two weeks in a row the coaching panel has panicked in the first 10 mins of the match, is it any wonder the blokes down back have no confidence, a weeks worth of talk about match up's is out the door and it's who is on who.
Or maybe the footballers arent hard enough at the ball? not first to the ball? no intensity?

Thats what I've seen so far and this is definately not the coaches fault. However, rewarding these players with games is totally unacceptable. The worst thing is, he actually plays these footballers who have been struggling for more than 2 years and basically gurantees them a game.

Questions need to be asked, ask the right person, I'm yet to see one thread on the coach. He needs to stop bagging the supporters, talking about where we play, and talking about finals and respect. Win some finals as a coach Dean, Win some games, learn, teach and the club can only go forward
Yes I agree.

And also toss these two disgraceful footballers out the door.
 

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Absolutely incorrect.

I am not saying Watt should be dropped, but you lose all credibility when you state he is better than Petrie.

He clearly isn't, and the stats back it up.

You can't have your own whipping horse and expect to deny others theirs.

Our game style is easily our biggest enemy, and ATM a Pagan coached North would be better than a Laidley coached North considering the players we have.
3 things -

Firstly, I wasn't saying Watt was better than Petrie. I just wasn't. Re-read the post. But now that you mention it, he certainly was better IMO.

Secondly, stats mean nothing in the modern game. Grant had 35 possessions yesterday, if you go by that he was easily best on ground. However none of his touches achieved anything. Worst 30+ possession game ever. Petrie statistically had an OK day, but what he did with those stats a la Grant was utterly useless (unless considering this from a Geelong perspective).

Finally, it is my opinion if I think player X was better than player Y. Don't tell me I am incorrect and then back it up with rubbish like "look at the stats!"
 

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spurs said:
Sorry YOTR but Watt is as bad as some are making him out to be. He just looks so out of place and never holds onto a tackle. Im getting annoyed why so many people on here stand up for him. He has pretented to be a footballer for 10 years now and its time to go.
No need to apologise, spurs. Save them for when Watt proves all the doubters wrong. Again.
 

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Yet another Watt post.
I thought it was pretty obvious all along that the only reason why we have Watt is because we don't have anyone else. And you know what we don't. We should have got rid of him 5 years ago but we didn't so now we have to put up with him.
We need Jon Hay playing every week. To see Gibson and Perry both line up on key big men was always destined for disaster. That's not having a go at them because they are simply 2nd and 1st gamers. What it means is we had a very inexperienced back line. Watt has to play because at least he is seasoned and can take some pressure off these 2 young blokes.
The problem is Watt is and never has been and never will be a good footballer. It's nothing to do with leg speed as he is actually very fast it's just he isn't a smart footballer. Doesn't know where to go or where to stand etc.... Hell this is old news and regular BF posters no this. We have Watt because at the moment no one else is up to it. Niether is he of course but because Laidley didn't play Perry last year it means poor Joel has to start from scratch.
We need Smith to get fit soon and of course it is so obvious that Hay must play every week even if he doesn't do much. Hay has experience and that counts for something at fullback.
 

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year of the roo said:
It was all Watt and Petrie's fault, don't you see?! :D
I think Wells and Harvey are more to blame.
No one expects anything from Watt anyway and Petrie actaully did take a lot of marks. It was a good game by Petrie standards.
What did Wells and Harvey do?

Basically Geelong are miles better then us.
 

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Who kicked goals on him? I wasn't there so I might have missed the mountains of goal he conceded, so maybe someone that was there can inform me.
 

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Still waiting.
Here you go, NB.

He had 3 goals kicked on him by Kingsley, 1 by S. Johnson, and gave away a stupid free kick to Bartel that resulted in another goal.

5 goals conceded all up.

Kingsley also got a couple of contested marks in the last quarter.

Zero run provided out of the backline.

Definitely the worst performed of the regular key defenders.

A typical substandard effort.

Perry will have his spot by years end.

At current output, if he is playing next year it must be because he's a good bloke.
 

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year of the roo said:
You and your hubby, Devil Fish, keep using this "he's a top bloke" line in jest. Why? No one else uses it to justify his position in the side.
In jest you say? I'm serious. Met him the other day and I've had a change of heart. He is a top bloke. He understands his inadequacies and is working strongly to rectify them. He reckons that by the year 2020 he should have them ironed out.
 

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I am not going to argue with 5. I am not watching the game again, that's for damn sure. Either way, I have my doubts.

My opinion:

We don't have another tall that can go with the quickish talls. Perry will be a player, but he will be the bloke that takes resting rucks and the real big blokes. Who plays on Tarrant this week? Brown would get torched, Hay is a mess outside the 50 metre line and Arch is too old to be be asked to do it. Perry is in his 2nd game and doesn't have the tank.

I don't think Watt is a very good footballer. I think he has been bagged for no reason in the past, and I think het gets singled out quite alot of the time. Like gerhig kicking 5 on him in a half, Archer getting 4 on him in 10 minutes, and people bagging Watt. Stuff like that just baffles me. I have been critical of him in the past, but I would like to think it was when he deserved it.

It might be a sad state of affairs, but he is all we have for certain types of players at this stage. I think we all hoped that Hay would be the man for the number one forward, but he isn't and never will be. At best he is a goalsquare stopper. At worst......

Petrie is differen't, as we have options for that role. Right now, I honestly don't think we have options to cover Watt. I don't like it, but what can we do?
 

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NorthBhoy said:
I am not going to argue with 5. I am not watching the game again, that's for damn sure. Either way, I have my doubts.

My opinion:

We don't have another tall that can go with the quickish talls. Perry will be a player, but he will be the bloke that takes resting rucks and the real big blokes. Who plays on Tarrant this week? Brown would get torched, Hay is a mess outside the 50 metre line and Arch is too old to be be asked to do it. Perry is in his 2nd game and doesn't have the tank.

I don't think Watt is a very good footballer. I think he has been bagged for no reason in the past, and I think het gets singled out quite alot of the time. Like gerhig kicking 5 on him in a half, Archer getting 4 on him in 10 minutes, and people bagging Watt. Stuff like that just baffles me. I have been critical of him in the past, but I would like to think it was when he deserved it.

It might be a sad state of affairs, but he is all we have for certain types of players at this stage. I think we all hoped that Hay would be the man for the number one forward, but he isn't and never will be. At best he is a goalsquare stopper. At worst......

Petrie is differen't, as we have options for that role. Right now, I honestly don't think we have options to cover Watt. I don't like it, but what can we do?
I would give Jade Rawlings a go before Watt.
 

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NorthBhoy said:
This week? On who, Tarrant?

He would kick 67. Before half time.
Tarrant-Hay
Rocca-Rawlings first and if it doesnt work then Brown
Perry takes third tall

Watt had 2 possies for our running backman and had goals kicked on him and he didnt tackle with any result.
Watt should be goneski
 

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Tarrant-Hay
Tarrant covers 10ks a game!! Hay would last around 7 minutes before dying. Literally.

Rocca-Rawlings first and if it doesnt work then Brown
That would last 5 minutes.

Perry takes third tall
Cloke? Yeah, that works for me.



He might be crap. He might be a liability.

But we don't have much else.
 
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