Delisted #39: Pat Voss - Stiff Armed by Essendon on Oct 25. Refer to #556

[TheGrizz]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2023 (Category A Rookie)
My Boy Draft 2023: Pick 18, Bipolarbear

 

[Yoda_]

2021 1st Round - Hobbs
2020 1st Round - Cox, Perkins, Reid
2019 1st Round - Traded for Shiel
2018 1st Round - Traded for Shiel
2017 1st Round - Traded for Smith & (part of) Stringer
2016 1st Round - McGrath
2015 1st Round - Parish & Francis

I would argue Perkins was a forward in his age group whilst McGrath was an AA U18 half back.

If ANY doubt then we shouldn't add them to the discussion

 

[BrunoV]

I was talking about blue collar mids. I'd count Hobbs

 

[ant555]

I would argue Perkins was a forward in his age group whilst McGrath was an AA U18 half back.

If ANY doubt then we shouldn't add them to the discussion

Perkins was a forward in his under age year. He trained with the midfield in his top age year but they did not play any games so he did not get the chance. I prefer Archie as a half forward / wing but he was going to play midfield if covid did not halt things. McGath did play some midfield in the back end of his under 18 season despite being the AA half back.

 

[ant555]

Put on Rawl's veil and watch the game against Casey and then come here and seriously post that this guy should be treated as 'just a rookie'.

Well he is. He may be in the 20% that make it but he is a rookie. GWS could have easily kept him but they did not. I do think he will make it but I am not pegging him as midfield based on the information I have been able to find out on him. I think he is a bit more of a Jake Stringer / Cam Zerhaar type crash and bash forward who can mark. Maybe not all the tricks Jake has but a bit better mark.

 

[BrunoV]

Well he is. He may be in the 20% that make it but he is a rookie. GWS could have easily kept him but they did not. I do think he will make it but I am not pegging him as midfield based on the information I have been able to find out on him. I think he is a bit more of a Jake Stringer / Cam Zerhaar type crash and bash forward who can mark. Maybe not all the tricks Jake has but a bit better mark.

The only thing for me to add is that he can do one thing Stringer and Zurhaar can't, and that's run.

 

[ant555]

The only thing for me to add is that he can do one thing Stringer and Zurhaar can't, and that's run.

True.

 

[Yoda_]

I like it when Bruno and Ant are in the same room together. It's fiery discussion but excellent viewing (reading)

 

[ant555]

I like it when Bruno and Ant are in the same room together. It's fiery discussion but excellent viewing (reading)

We are getting soft in our old age. We actually agree 20% of the time now

 

[owen87]

I would argue Perkins was a forward in his age group whilst McGrath was an AA U18 half back.

If ANY doubt then we shouldn't add them to the discussion

Perkins was the only real midfield prospect available at his selection other than Bruhn (who'd had LTIs from memory) unless we wanted to really reach.

McGrath had also demonstrated he could play on-ball as well, but as I said, that selection is arguable because there were other players who had greater midfield pedigree (McCluggage more specifically) rated at around that selection.

That said, McGrath hasn't exactly disgraced himself in the midfield when played there, and it's 'just' a half-back much as people like to pretend he can only be one thing.

 

[andleanback]

Foot stress injury

 

[ghostdog]

People hoping for a Voss inclusion; fuhgedabowdit.
Injured.

 

[PressureCooker]

Is it just me or do we seem get a lot of these foot injuries compared to other clubs?

 

[TheGrizz]

Foot stress injury

That's Reid, Jones, Voss and Cox in the last 12 months (of differing severity)

Either we are desperately unlucky or we have a problem that needs to be looked at in terms of our development/training of young talls.

 

[andleanback]

That's Reid, Jones, Voss and Cox in the last 12 months (of differing severity)

Either we are desperately unlucky or we have a problem that needs to be looked at in terms of our development/training of young talls.

I’d say the latter. 1 or 2 probably unlucky. 4 there’s definitely something wrong with the program.

 

[owen87]

That's Reid, Jones, Voss and Cox in the last 12 months (of differing severity)

Either we are desperately unlucky or we have a problem that needs to be looked at in terms of our development/training of young talls.

They're all >190cm developing young guys.

After years of not pushing players hard enough, maybe now they're pushing these young blokes too hard to gain weight and the taller ones who are still settling in to their bodies are breaking down?

 

[TheGrizz]

They're all >190cm developing young guys.

After years of not pushing players hard enough, maybe now they're pushing these young blokes too hard to gain weight and the taller ones who are still settling in to their bodies are breaking down?

Have no idea, not at all literate in the sports science space. But it seems to be a trend at least.

 

[MiguelM]

Have no idea, not at all literate in the sports science space. But it seems to be a trend at least.

Are any other clubs having this issue?

Maybe the indoors area too hard, like Marvel?

 

[owen87]

Are any other clubs having this issue?

Maybe the indoors area too hard, like Marvel?

Don't think Marvel has any such issues these days, been years since it was a talking point

 

[andleanback]

Are any other clubs having this issue?

Maybe the indoors area too hard, like Marvel?

Reid and Voss haven’t even played at marvel, Jones had his before he’d played there as well. Don’t think that surface has much to do with it.

 

[ant555]

Well it is not the training grounds at the hanger.

 

[Lore]

"Moderate" for those playing at home. Moonboot and re-assess.

Young key forward Patrick Voss will enter a rehab program after sustaining a foot stress injury in Essendon VFL’s loss to Frankston.

Murphy said Voss, who impressed with three goals in the loss to the Dolphin, would be conservatively managed as a first-year player.

“Voss has suffered a moderate foot stress injury,” Murphy said.

“We’ll be conservative with him being a first-year player. He’ll go into a moon boot to offload for the next couple of weeks and then we’ll reassess from there.”

Injury news: Calf setbacks for duo, Stringer to miss Freo clash

The latest on Will Snelling, James Stewart, Jake Stringer and more.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[RedmanWasHere]

How would this’ve been reported back in the day?

 

[citizen-erased]

"Moderate" for those playing at home. Moonboot and re-assess.

Injury news: Calf setbacks for duo, Stringer to miss Freo clash

The latest on Will Snelling, James Stewart, Jake Stringer and more.

www.essendonfc.com.au

That's a shame, but tbh wasn't expecting we'd see him this year. Sounds like a raw project as it is. Disappointing for him that his prep is interrupted though. Sounded like he'd bring a bit of old school Sheedy era mongrel to the side.

 

[Lore]

Patrick Voss​

Key stats: Three goals, 11 disposals, five marks, four tackles

"'Vossy' is a real competitor. There were times where the team looked a bit flat. He's a bit of an indicator for how we're going, so halfway through the third quarter, we sent out the message for him to fire us up and get some excitement in the game. He kicked the next two and set up another goal, so it was really pleasing that he reacted to the message. What I like about him is that he's a team player, and if he keeps competing the way he does, he'll keep giving himself every chance (to play at AFL level)."

VFL player review: Rd 3 v Frankston

Eleven AFL-listed players are assessed from Sunday's loss to Frankston.

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[eth-dog]

Building loads up, been running on the Alter-G, should be running on the ground next week

Injury news: Jones, Smith available, Caldwell a test

The latest injury update ahead of round 10.

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