3rd Defender

[Vader]

This is a no brainer. Sam Shaw will be a 200+ game player for Adelaide. Showed plenty so far and will cement himself once fit this season.

I would love for Shaw to play 200+ games, but I can't see it happening. To play 200+ games a player must average 20 games per year for at least 10 years. Shaw is just way too injury prone to ever achieve that level of consistency.

I can see him being one of those players who spends 10 years on our list, playing just 80-90 games, with the fans all knowing that he could have been anything if his body hadn't been so terminally fragile.

 

[Team DJ]

Why is that ?

Always looks like hes a milli second away from a mega brain fade

 

[Apsaalooke]

That's a team structure issue, not a player issue. The person responsible for this is the coach, as he's the one who directs the defenders to play further up the field (usually part of a zone defence), leaving gaping holes if/when the opposition can get the ball past the zone.

You're right but if we're going to have that game plan, then its up to defenders to individually or collectively either take possession or at least bring the ball to the front of the pack. We seem to miss or fumble the ball a lot in that situation

 

[DangerSloane]

I reckon CEY is a smokey.

Racist ;-)

 

[Skippy231]

Would it be possible for us to play Rutten, Talia as Shaw as the three talls, along with Otten, Reilly and Luke Brown in the same defensive structure?

 

[1990crow]

Would it be possible for us to play Rutten, Talia as Shaw as the three talls, along with Otten, Reilly and Luke Brown in the same defensive structure?

No. It's either Otten or Shaw. If Otten plays like he did in the PF than he gets the nod.

 

[Geoffa32]

Would it be possible for us to play Rutten, Talia as Shaw as the three talls, along with Otten, Reilly and Luke Brown in the same defensive structure?

Would work if 2009s version of Otten was with us.......

 

[DREAM TEAM BUFF]

This is a no brainer. Sam Shaw will be a 200+ game player for Adelaide. Showed plenty so far and will cement himself once fit this season.

Sorry but at this point of time he will lucky to get anywhere near 100 games if he can't get his body right.

 

[DREAM TEAM BUFF]

Always looks like hes a milli second away from a mega brain fade

Fair enough then

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

He will need to dramatically reduce his error rate to become a 200+ game player. I re-watched many of last year's games on Foxtel in the off season & Shaw cost us many turnover goals due to silly mistakes. He has some other great attributes, but he must reduce the "doh" moments to make it at AFL level.

This will come with more game time.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I would love for Shaw to play 200+ games, but I can't see it happening. To play 200+ games a player must average 20 games per year for at least 10 years. Shaw is just way too injury prone to ever achieve that level of consistency.

I can see him being one of those players who spends 10 years on our list, playing just 80-90 games, with the fans all knowing that he could have been anything if his body hadn't been so terminally fragile.

Fair call. Allow me to preface my comment with "subject to fitness..."

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

You're right but if we're going to have that game plan, then its up to defenders to individually or collectively either take possession or at least bring the ball to the front of the pack. We seem to miss or fumble the ball a lot in that situation

It's not a game plan issue. All teams get sucked up the ground and have to flood back. It is how quickly we react, how well we read the play, how composed we are when a team is on a fast break and skills such as our defenders ability to keep one eye on their opponent and one eye on the ball. From various reports, Darren Milburn has been trying to instill some of these skills in our defenders and practising the scenarios.

 

[RippaRiley43]

Shaw's kicking is barely at AFL standard

if we could combine Jaensch's kicking with Shaw's marking and Otten's physique we could end this thread

Otten's a fairly handy mark himself (remember that one he took in the forgettable 2009 final?).

 

[Apsaalooke]

Lynch played in defence against Geelong today in the last quarter and wasn't awful in limited minutes.

Otten was virtually non-existent

 

[cmndstab]

The goal we leak over the back have more to do with structure than they do with our leg speed. 190cm defenders are never going to win a race with pacey small forwards, regardless of how quick or slow they are, if we allow them a 50m paddock to run back into. We need to keep some defenders "at home" to prevent that, not just recruit faster ones.