Player Watch #41: Matt McGuinness - signed end 2022

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Shinboner1

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If we have a couple of decent cat B rookies on the radar I can see him going.
Never does the club any favours holding players who get consistently injured.
 

Luke72

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He looked pretty good in the bits of VFL I saw throughout the year. He is a lanky type but I reckon those players are more protected by the modern game.
 

Sphynx

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Literally costs us bugger all to have him on the list. Doesn’t take up a list spot and would cost bugger all cash.

Considering he is a key position player I’d happily give him another year
Nah, it’s not a salary thing anymore.

The soft cap is stretched to breaking point at clubs, you cant consume coaching resources on players just because you can.

Development coaches have enough on their plate without adding players unlikely to ever make it.
 

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Shinboner1

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Did they change the cat B rules so he can have a 3rd year on the list?
I dont see him taking a senior spot if that becomes the only option.
 

King Corey

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Nah, it’s not a salary thing anymore.

The soft cap is stretched to breaking point at clubs, you cant consume coaching resources on players just because you can.

Development coaches have enough on their plate without adding players unlikely to ever make it.
People seem to always miss this. Every player at the club costs something.

It's not like they stick a Cat B player in a hyroponics room and let them develop. There's coaches, conditioning staff, dieticians, physios, admin staff etc etc handling the overhead and logistics for each player.

Not commenting on Matt specifically but the cost of having a Cat B player who's unlike to be in the club's plans exceeds the cost of having no Cat B player.
 

the flying ham

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People seem to always miss this. Every player at the club costs something.

It's not like they stick a Cat B player in a hyroponics room and let them develop. There's coaches, conditioning staff, dieticians, physios, admin staff etc etc handling the overhead and logistics for each player.

Not commenting on Matt specifically but the cost of having a Cat B player who's unlike to be in the club's plans exceeds the cost of having no Cat B player.
We arent a charity KC. If they like MM chances of developing further its a no brainer to keep him. But keeping him for keepings sake costs resources as you have suggested. Id like to think if MM is moved on we park a project ruckman on our Cat B list

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King Corey

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We arent a charity KC. If they like MM chances of developing further its a no brainer to keep him. But keeping him for keepings sake costs resources as you have suggested. Id like to think if MM is moved on we park a project ruckman on our Cat B list

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Spot on mate. Keeping a player on because of low cost is like paying for stuff you'll never need to get a tax deduction.

Exactly as you say - if we see Matt as future North player, keep. If not, say goodbye. The same as any other player. He's not a speculative high risk-reward project, like some 208cm ex-volleyballer or something.
 

hellas_johnny

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When the club put him in for surgery noble said there could have been a cube. Chance of him being back last game or so but that they were looking at the bigger picture. Somthing along those lines. That to me tells me they'll give him anther deal
 

King Corey

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When the club put him in for surgery noble said there could have been a cube. Chance of him being back last game or so but that they were looking at the bigger picture. Somthing along those lines. That to me tells me they'll give him anther deal
One of the few decent norms in football is that they usually treat listed players respectfully when considering surgery etc. I've tried to guess at player's futures using this criteria before in the past and been wrong most of the time.

They'll speak about McGuinness or whoever else as being part of their planning - until they're not.
 

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