Player Watch #43: Aaron Hall

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As mentioned in the Autopsy thread, I took the time last night to go back through the replay and track his disposals. (Happy to list them all, but figured it wouldn't make for the most exciting read.) Much as I expected, it wasn't nearly as damning as some posters are making out. Definitely some confirmation bias at play here. Yes, he made some mistakes, but they are being exaggerated and overblown. Statements like 'can't hit a target', 'burns teammates every single time', 'kills scoring chains', etc, are the kind of lazy hyperbole that craps up this forum.

In the interest of a slightly more nuanced take on his game.....

Start with the stats - equal highest possession getter with Jy. Identical DE% (69.6) for the both of them, too. (And in case anyone is wondering, the 69.6% figure checked out upon tracking his disposals on the replay.) Obviously, I'm not about to suggest that the quality of Hall's 16 effective disposals was as high as Jy's 16 effective disposals, but IMO the more significant disparity came in the remaining 30.4% that went awry. Within that 30.4%, Hall had some absolute shockers. Jy not so much. Aaron was indeed guilty of some regrettable instances of ball-butchering and teammate burning. Not as much as some folks are making out, but it happened. Some of his I50's sucked a fair bit, too. Had 4 clangers in total for the game, the same as Jy, Browny, and Pittard. (Goldy and Ats both had 5.)

But still, the reality is that most of his possessions on the night were indeed effective. Hence, the "exaggeration" call.

I think a few people have nailed it. Aaron seems to take on the responsibility of making things happen, and it's not always the right decision to do so. But the fact remains that he's a 'live and die by the sword' type. He's a bloke that's trying to make stuff happen in a side that currently struggles with the creative side of footy. He's also one of the few players on our list that offers genuine pace. And he's a guy that for the most part gets on his bike while others are standing around flat-footed. Prefer a bit of dare to the boring, predictable, ridiculously impotent 'kick down the line' footy we saw on Saturday night.

Said it before and I'll say it again, he should be attending more centre bounces. When he is in there, with the aid of some of Goldy's brilliant tapwork, he invariably gets his hands on it. Don't want to harp on about the whole 'out of position' thing, but if we're to play him, he needs to get more midfield minutes. Can all too often go missing on a HFF. His game last night only really got going once he was swung into the midfield.

Couple of other things....his first miss on goal was undoubtedly a cringe-worthy moment (that I'm sure did his confidence no good), but re the second miss - as anyone crazy enough to brave the replay will see - he was actually slung at the last second just as he kicked, causing the shot to stray off line and hit the post. Didn't pick it up until I went back and watched it again.

Oh yeah, he was also 3rd in score involvements for the game, too.

So in a way it becomes almost a philosophical question. You could argue that without the 16 effective disposals and the score involvements that we would have been worse off. But at the same time his errors certainly didn't help our cause. The dilemma being how much weight to afford each? Does Shawry come after the bloke who's trying to make things happen and sometimes (perhaps a little too regularly) stuffs it up, or does he come after the blokes standing around with their thumbs up their arses doing 3/5ths of **** all?

Very much doubt he'll be dropped next week off the back of that effort, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, back to the insults.....

Quality post!

You are right about confirmation bias. Once a player slips into that dreaded whipping boy territory their detractors spend the whole game looking for their perceived weakness and tend to ignore anything good they do.
 

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Never seen a player burn teammates more with the old cardinal sin, the “u-turn”. Absolute no go even at local level. Seems to me he’s either very selfish out there or is too confident in his own abilities. Either way he doesn’t use his teammates and more often that not he sprays his kicks.

It’s odd because at training and in the media he seems to be a pretty good leader especially for younger blokes like Tarryn. I was one who wanted him brought to the club but he needs a spell unfortunately.
Zurhaar burns teammates in exactly the same manner. There were two howlers against the Hawks that resulted in turnovers because he wanted to turn and kick rather than give the easy handball. Does Cam need a spell?
 

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As mentioned in the Autopsy thread, I took the time last night to go back through the replay and track his disposals. (Happy to list them all, but figured it wouldn't make for the most exciting read.) Much as I expected, it wasn't nearly as damning as some posters are making out. Definitely some confirmation bias at play here. Yes, he made some mistakes, but they are being exaggerated and overblown. Statements like 'can't hit a target', 'burns teammates every single time', 'kills scoring chains', etc, are the kind of lazy hyperbole that craps up this forum.

In the interest of a slightly more nuanced take on his game.....

Start with the stats - equal highest possession getter with Jy. Identical DE% (69.6) for the both of them, too. (And in case anyone is wondering, the 69.6% figure checked out upon tracking his disposals on the replay.) Obviously, I'm not about to suggest that the quality of Hall's 16 effective disposals was as high as Jy's 16 effective disposals, but IMO the more significant disparity came in the remaining 30.4% that went awry. Within that 30.4%, Hall had some absolute shockers. Jy not so much. Aaron was indeed guilty of some regrettable instances of ball-butchering and teammate burning. Not as much as some folks are making out, but it happened. Some of his I50's sucked a fair bit, too. Had 4 clangers in total for the game, the same as Jy, Browny, and Pittard. (Goldy and Ats both had 5.)

But still, the reality is that most of his possessions on the night were indeed effective. Hence, the "exaggeration" call.

I think a few people have nailed it. Aaron seems to take on the responsibility of making things happen, and it's not always the right decision to do so. But the fact remains that he's a 'live and die by the sword' type. He's a bloke that's trying to make stuff happen in a side that currently struggles with the creative side of footy. He's also one of the few players on our list that offers genuine pace. And he's a guy that for the most part gets on his bike while others are standing around flat-footed. Prefer a bit of dare to the boring, predictable, ridiculously impotent 'kick down the line' footy we saw on Saturday night.

Said it before and I'll say it again, he should be attending more centre bounces. When he is in there, with the aid of some of Goldy's brilliant tapwork, he invariably gets his hands on it. Don't want to harp on about the whole 'out of position' thing, but if we're to play him, he needs to get more midfield minutes. Can all too often go missing on a HFF. His game last night only really got going once he was swung into the midfield.

Couple of other things....his first miss on goal was undoubtedly a cringe-worthy moment (that I'm sure did his confidence no good), but re the second miss - as anyone crazy enough to brave the replay will see - he was actually slung at the last second just as he kicked, causing the shot to stray off line and hit the post. Didn't pick it up until I went back and watched it again.

Oh yeah, he was also 3rd in score involvements for the game, too.

So in a way it becomes almost a philosophical question. You could argue that without the 16 effective disposals and the score involvements that we would have been worse off. But at the same time his errors certainly didn't help our cause. The dilemma being how much weight to afford each? Does Shawry come after the bloke who's trying to make things happen and sometimes (perhaps a little too regularly) stuffs it up, or does he come after the blokes standing around with their thumbs up their arses doing 3/5ths of **** all?

Very much doubt he'll be dropped next week off the back of that effort, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, back to the insults.....
Good post TOD.
He at least is winning the ball and trying. Can’t fault that.
 

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What a unique approach to posting TOD - using data to support your statements.

Icing on a yet to be baked cake is a good analogy. I reckon a few of those kicks that went nowhere were due to the breakdown in structure - the forwards weren’t home. From the telly we might have seen an option but when he looked up and saw an empty 50 he was being chased, and was committed to the kick. The thing that he did wrong was to roost the ball instead of just mongrel it along the ground to give himself a second chance.

Easy to say with hindsight.
 

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As mentioned in the Autopsy thread, I took the time last night to go back through the replay and track his disposals. (Happy to list them all, but figured it wouldn't make for the most exciting read.) Much as I expected, it wasn't nearly as damning as some posters are making out. Definitely some confirmation bias at play here. Yes, he made some mistakes, but they are being exaggerated and overblown. Statements like 'can't hit a target', 'burns teammates every single time', 'kills scoring chains', etc, are the kind of lazy hyperbole that craps up this forum.


Anyway, back to the insults.....
keep your evidence-based research to yourself, spoils all the fun....Sam Gibson says Hi!
 

koshari

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keep your evidence-based research to yourself, spoils all the fun....Sam Gibson says Hi!
gibbo had his detractors, but based on current output in the blue and white gurnsey he is miles ahead of what hall has prodused so far. when sammy sprayed them they were a lot further of the mark, but he was prolly a little more consistent. if hall produces a game like gibbos final things might look a bit different.
 

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Hall is a sh*t coaches nightmare but a good coaches gem. You need to mould and polish him, he is a rough diamond, you need to build his confidence. If Shaw is the right coach for us, he not only needs to not see hall as a peripheral player but make him the playmaker, with deficiencies of course.... pat least for the interim. Hall needs to lead the way as the running attacking mid who gets oppositions attention. The butchering of the ball is down to confidence and the other support as there currently isn’t any.

The midfield incumbents Ziebell, Cunnington, Dumont, Anderson are all mediocre in skill, speed and sense, therefore hall isn’t that far below them. Hall has the leg speed which is something the others don’t have. if anything the hard decision has to be made Ziebell Cunnington, Dumont is a maybe at best, Anderson Can survive another season because if we need a player with some physicality, he is decent but he is also another borrowed time, Higgins needs to go too albeit to the forward line permanently because if he is in the midfield, then all look to him just like we once did boomer and wells. This model can no longer work, we need the lot of them running as a pack, we need the atley, Simpkin, hall, Thomas, Bailey, ldu, to be all in cohort.

Currently if we have Anderson, Ziebell, Cunnington in the mid, we get slaughtered in clearances because these three are not suitable for modern day inside midfield roles. Modern day inside kids need to be zippy, quick handed, daft foot like Cotchin ss the most standout. The kids we got right now were suitable for the past decade. Cut cut cut I say, the seemingly venerated stewarts need to go first as they are keeping the team down Due to their obsolete gameplay.
Indeed Rad Roo. Another "quality" post from your hands.

Those three were absolutely useless on Saturday night. I just had a look at the stats and would you believe it, not a disposal between them? We can't afford to continue to carry blokes like them, who never got near it on Saturday night.
 

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Indeed Rad Roo. Another "quality" post from your hands.

Those three were absolutely useless on Saturday night. I just had a look at the stats and would you believe it, not a disposal between them? We can't afford to continue to carry blokes like them, who never got near it on Saturday night.
surprised you even replied after the post suggested cunnington wasnt up to it.
 

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When Hally (that's what his mates call him) played for us, he was a GOD. I'll never forget his first 3 games - 9 Brownlow votes - straight in the bank thank you very much. If the count stopped after round 3, he would've been very hard to beat indeed.
I like the way he adds a bit of explosion to the packs as well.

You guys have done well picking him up at bargain basement prices. Sell in gloom. Buy in doom. Take me for example, I bought a share in Afterpay in March for $9.17. It's now worth $72.17. That's cold hard cash.
 

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As mentioned in the Autopsy thread, I took the time last night to go back through the replay and track his disposals. (Happy to list them all, but figured it wouldn't make for the most exciting read.) Much as I expected, it wasn't nearly as damning as some posters are making out. Definitely some confirmation bias at play here. Yes, he made some mistakes, but they are being exaggerated and overblown. Statements like 'can't hit a target', 'burns teammates every single time', 'kills scoring chains', etc, are the kind of lazy hyperbole that craps up this forum.

In the interest of a slightly more nuanced take on his game.....

Start with the stats - equal highest possession getter with Jy. Identical DE% (69.6) for the both of them, too. (And in case anyone is wondering, the 69.6% figure checked out upon tracking his disposals on the replay.) Obviously, I'm not about to suggest that the quality of Hall's 16 effective disposals was as high as Jy's 16 effective disposals, but IMO the more significant disparity came in the remaining 30.4% that went awry. Within that 30.4%, Hall had some absolute shockers. Jy not so much. Aaron was indeed guilty of some regrettable instances of ball-butchering and teammate burning. Not as much as some folks are making out, but it happened. Some of his I50's sucked a fair bit, too. Had 4 clangers in total for the game, the same as Jy, Browny, and Pittard. (Goldy and Ats both had 5.)

But still, the reality is that most of his possessions on the night were indeed effective. Hence, the "exaggeration" call.

I think a few people have nailed it. Aaron seems to take on the responsibility of making things happen, and it's not always the right decision to do so. But the fact remains that he's a 'live and die by the sword' type. He's a bloke that's trying to make stuff happen in a side that currently struggles with the creative side of footy. He's also one of the few players on our list that offers genuine pace. And he's a guy that for the most part gets on his bike while others are standing around flat-footed. Prefer a bit of dare to the boring, predictable, ridiculously impotent 'kick down the line' footy we saw on Saturday night.

Said it before and I'll say it again, he should be attending more centre bounces. When he is in there, with the aid of some of Goldy's brilliant tapwork, he invariably gets his hands on it. Don't want to harp on about the whole 'out of position' thing, but if we're to play him, he needs to get more midfield minutes. Can all too often go missing on a HFF. His game last night only really got going once he was swung into the midfield.

Couple of other things....his first miss on goal was undoubtedly a cringe-worthy moment (that I'm sure did his confidence no good), but re the second miss - as anyone crazy enough to brave the replay will see - he was actually slung at the last second just as he kicked, causing the shot to stray off line and hit the post. Didn't pick it up until I went back and watched it again.

Oh yeah, he was also 3rd in score involvements for the game, too.

So in a way it becomes almost a philosophical question. You could argue that without the 16 effective disposals and the score involvements that we would have been worse off. But at the same time his errors certainly didn't help our cause. The dilemma being how much weight to afford each? Does Shawry come after the bloke who's trying to make things happen and sometimes (perhaps a little too regularly) stuffs it up, or does he come after the blokes standing around with their thumbs up their arses doing 3/5ths of **** all?

Very much doubt he'll be dropped next week off the back of that effort, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, back to the insults.....
Nice post. Can you do the same for last weeks game please? Wont take you anywhere near as long.
 

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Zurhaar burns teammates in exactly the same manner. There were two howlers against the Hawks that resulted in turnovers because he wanted to turn and kick rather than give the easy handball. Does Cam need a spell?
Zurhaar was drunk on his own bath water a few weeks ago, no arguments here.
 

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Aaron is currently equal first for scoring shots at the club (3.9), shared with Brown (7.5) and Zuurhaar (8.4). Next best is Taylor (5.2)

Also equal first for behinds across the league with 9.

Obviously doesn't mean much if he doesn't improve in this area and start taking his chances, but at the same time, he is certainly hitting the scoreboard (not literally, although some of his kicking has gone close)

Met him at the Syd and he is a really great person, was very impressive and definitely an asset to the club off the field.

Think he is trying hard and really hope it clicks for him, because I think he still has a lot of offer if he cleans up certain areas of his game.
 

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As mentioned in the Autopsy thread, I took the time last night to go back through the replay and track his disposals. (Happy to list them all, but figured it wouldn't make for the most exciting read.) Much as I expected, it wasn't nearly as damning as some posters are making out. Definitely some confirmation bias at play here. Yes, he made some mistakes, but they are being exaggerated and overblown. Statements like 'can't hit a target', 'burns teammates every single time', 'kills scoring chains', etc, are the kind of lazy hyperbole that craps up this forum.

In the interest of a slightly more nuanced take on his game.....

Start with the stats - equal highest possession getter with Jy. Identical DE% (69.6) for the both of them, too. (And in case anyone is wondering, the 69.6% figure checked out upon tracking his disposals on the replay.) Obviously, I'm not about to suggest that the quality of Hall's 16 effective disposals was as high as Jy's 16 effective disposals, but IMO the more significant disparity came in the remaining 30.4% that went awry. Within that 30.4%, Hall had some absolute shockers. Jy not so much. Aaron was indeed guilty of some regrettable instances of ball-butchering and teammate burning. Not as much as some folks are making out, but it happened. Some of his I50's sucked a fair bit, too. Had 4 clangers in total for the game, the same as Jy, Browny, and Pittard. (Goldy and Ats both had 5.)

But still, the reality is that most of his possessions on the night were indeed effective. Hence, the "exaggeration" call.

I think a few people have nailed it. Aaron seems to take on the responsibility of making things happen, and it's not always the right decision to do so. But the fact remains that he's a 'live and die by the sword' type. He's a bloke that's trying to make stuff happen in a side that currently struggles with the creative side of footy. He's also one of the few players on our list that offers genuine pace. And he's a guy that for the most part gets on his bike while others are standing around flat-footed. Prefer a bit of dare to the boring, predictable, ridiculously impotent 'kick down the line' footy we saw on Saturday night.

Said it before and I'll say it again, he should be attending more centre bounces. When he is in there, with the aid of some of Goldy's brilliant tapwork, he invariably gets his hands on it. Don't want to harp on about the whole 'out of position' thing, but if we're to play him, he needs to get more midfield minutes. Can all too often go missing on a HFF. His game last night only really got going once he was swung into the midfield.

Couple of other things....his first miss on goal was undoubtedly a cringe-worthy moment (that I'm sure did his confidence no good), but re the second miss - as anyone crazy enough to brave the replay will see - he was actually slung at the last second just as he kicked, causing the shot to stray off line and hit the post. Didn't pick it up until I went back and watched it again.

Oh yeah, he was also 3rd in score involvements for the game, too.

So in a way it becomes almost a philosophical question. You could argue that without the 16 effective disposals and the score involvements that we would have been worse off. But at the same time his errors certainly didn't help our cause. The dilemma being how much weight to afford each? Does Shawry come after the bloke who's trying to make things happen and sometimes (perhaps a little too regularly) stuffs it up, or does he come after the blokes standing around with their thumbs up their arses doing 3/5ths of **** all?

Very much doubt he'll be dropped next week off the back of that effort, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, back to the insults.....
I'm sure he is being told to take the game on so I don't blame him for having the occasional ping. I'm not a serial Hall bagger - I want to see him come good as we're not exactly blessed with dynamic mids - but it's more the nature of some of his turnovers. Wtf was he thinking for some of them?
 

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I'm sure he is being told to take the game on so I don't blame him for having the occasional ping. I'm not a serial Hall bagger - I want to see him come good as we're not exactly blessed with dynamic mids - but it's more the nature of some of his turnovers. Wtf was he thinking for some of them?
When he goes into the midfield he is at least getting plenty of it and making good metres. I like that he takes the game on. With a few small adjustments to decision making he could be a top 5 player for us. Surely that's an easier adjustment than a guy that only gets 6 to 8 possessions.
 

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Last few posts of this have been great to read. Yeah he’s sprayed the ball a fair bit, but FFS he is getting the thing. And he’s getting it in dangerous positions. We’ve gotta persist.
Calls of “seen enough”, “get rid of”, “never again in a north jumper” etc.....What or who do you think we have waiting in the wings?
We bring in another first gamer, who gets it 9 times?
At least Aron doesn’t kick it down the line every friggin’ time. He may not be the answer, or the great hope we were hoping for, but he’s probably the best we’ve got to play that outside midfielder right now.
Believe me, I was screaming at his decisions and disposal too, but it just may click with this bloke.
 

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Had 23 disposals at 70% vs Higgins who had 15 at about 50% and Polec who had similar numbers to Higgo. Hasn’t been playing great footy, but if he’d kicked the goals he’s missed over the last few weeks we’d be looking at his worth a lot more favourably imo. As others have said, at least he’s getting himself into positions to take the game on and trying to create in an otherwise stagnant team lacking flair.
 

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As mentioned in the Autopsy thread, I took the time last night to go back through the replay and track his disposals. (Happy to list them all, but figured it wouldn't make for the most exciting read.) Much as I expected, it wasn't nearly as damning as some posters are making out. Definitely some confirmation bias at play here. Yes, he made some mistakes, but they are being exaggerated and overblown. Statements like 'can't hit a target', 'burns teammates every single time', 'kills scoring chains', etc, are the kind of lazy hyperbole that craps up this forum.

In the interest of a slightly more nuanced take on his game.....

Start with the stats - equal highest possession getter with Jy. Identical DE% (69.6) for the both of them, too. (And in case anyone is wondering, the 69.6% figure checked out upon tracking his disposals on the replay.) Obviously, I'm not about to suggest that the quality of Hall's 16 effective disposals was as high as Jy's 16 effective disposals, but IMO the more significant disparity came in the remaining 30.4% that went awry. Within that 30.4%, Hall had some absolute shockers. Jy not so much. Aaron was indeed guilty of some regrettable instances of ball-butchering and teammate burning. Not as much as some folks are making out, but it happened. Some of his I50's sucked a fair bit, too. Had 4 clangers in total for the game, the same as Jy, Browny, and Pittard. (Goldy and Ats both had 5.)

But still, the reality is that most of his possessions on the night were indeed effective. Hence, the "exaggeration" call.

I think a few people have nailed it. Aaron seems to take on the responsibility of making things happen, and it's not always the right decision to do so. But the fact remains that he's a 'live and die by the sword' type. He's a bloke that's trying to make stuff happen in a side that currently struggles with the creative side of footy. He's also one of the few players on our list that offers genuine pace. And he's a guy that for the most part gets on his bike while others are standing around flat-footed. Prefer a bit of dare to the boring, predictable, ridiculously impotent 'kick down the line' footy we saw on Saturday night.

Said it before and I'll say it again, he should be attending more centre bounces. When he is in there, with the aid of some of Goldy's brilliant tapwork, he invariably gets his hands on it. Don't want to harp on about the whole 'out of position' thing, but if we're to play him, he needs to get more midfield minutes. Can all too often go missing on a HFF. His game last night only really got going once he was swung into the midfield.

Couple of other things....his first miss on goal was undoubtedly a cringe-worthy moment (that I'm sure did his confidence no good), but re the second miss - as anyone crazy enough to brave the replay will see - he was actually slung at the last second just as he kicked, causing the shot to stray off line and hit the post. Didn't pick it up until I went back and watched it again.

Oh yeah, he was also 3rd in score involvements for the game, too.

So in a way it becomes almost a philosophical question. You could argue that without the 16 effective disposals and the score involvements that we would have been worse off. But at the same time his errors certainly didn't help our cause. The dilemma being how much weight to afford each? Does Shawry come after the bloke who's trying to make things happen and sometimes (perhaps a little too regularly) stuffs it up, or does he come after the blokes standing around with their thumbs up their arses doing 3/5ths of **** all?

Very much doubt he'll be dropped next week off the back of that effort, but I could be wrong.

Anyway, back to the insults.....
I like following the maligned players hoping they do well. Was happy for him on the weekend - I thought he played well and made the best players. Looks like his a NM whipping boy...

His ball use can vary obviously you but you guys are absolutely mad if you think dropping Hall would be an upgrade on the team. Imagine if he kicked 9 goals 3 instead of the reverse whilst playing plenty of time through the middle? They're are plenty of problems at NM and i'm leaning towards Hall being more of a shining light this year rather than a disaster.
 

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Never seen a player burn teammates more with the old cardinal sin, the “u-turn”. Absolute no go even at local level. Seems to me he’s either very selfish out there or is too confident in his own abilities. Either way he doesn’t use his teammates and more often that not he sprays his kicks.

It’s odd because at training and in the media he seems to be a pretty good leader especially for younger blokes like Tarryn. I was one who wanted him brought to the club but he needs a spell unfortunately.
Yeah he was racing in the first at Caulfield and left the blinkers on.


Was the inside fifty he lazily snapped on his left foot an effective disposal because the ball came to ground?
He panics and rushes and as someone who is meant to be the final product, he is the last player I want kicking the ball to a leading forward.
I’ve seen enough.
Yep effective disposal is if it goes a certain distance even if it’s a turnover.
Comparing his DE % against an inside mid is really comparable- hall plays outside and should use it better.
 

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He's the football equivalent of split personality.

He goes to doing something really good to really sh*te in the same play, it's like your all of sudden watching a different player.
 

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Indeed Rad Roo. Another "quality" post from your hands.

Those three were absolutely useless on Saturday night. I just had a look at the stats and would you believe it, not a disposal between them? We can't afford to continue to carry blokes like them, who never got near it on Saturday night.
Yes, how are we travelling with ziebell cunning and Anderson in the team? Ten goal belting was it?
 

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