Player Watch #44: Cameron Zurhaar - re-signs until end of 2022

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Zurhaar is more a David King or Lindsay Thomas than Anthony Stevens or Andrew Swallow.

Sometimes these guys with flair or dash need to be sat on their arse to get their heads straight.

His next game will give a hint as to how well he can refocus and plays his role.

And yes, it is only February but with the way Larkey and Zurhaar come across, I would be very surprised if he hadn't expected to dominate that game.
I think we'll learn quite a bit about Shaw 's coaching over the next two months.

Will he be seemingly soft on underperformers?

Play favourites?

Demote underperformers to the VFL in a rapid manner?

Put the onus on those underperforming to improve or face demotion?

How does he respond to tough losses?


I like to think, based on Hosie being demoted for missing a session, J Mac in the VFL last year and other actions, that he will not disappoint those of us who are looking for a more 'ruthless' coach, ala Clarkson.
 

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I think we'll learn quite a bit about Shaw 's coaching over the next two months.

Will he be seemingly soft on underperformers?

Play favourites?

Demote underperformers to the VFL in a rapid manner?

Put the onus on those underperforming to improve or face demotion?

How does he respond to tough losses?


I like to think, based on Hosie being demoted for missing a session, J Mac in the VFL last year and other actions, that he will not disappoint those of us who are looking for a more 'ruthless' coach, ala Clarkson.
Yeh I hope this is the case. He seems more nurturing than Clarkson but I hope he makes the tough calls when needed.
 

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Yeh I hope this is the case. He seems more nurturing than Clarkson but I hope he makes the tough calls when needed.
I'd guess Clarkson is smart enough to do the nurturing while maintaining a clinical focus on the prize.

For a bloke who excels at pushing blokes out when they're not contributing to the greater good of his club, virtually none of his former players seem to hold a grudge.

Would suggest he builds very strong relationships while still keeping players very aware of their respective roles and values within his domain. ie "nobody bigger than the club".
 

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i guess it is minor, but it's so unnecessary. Even if the guy doesn't touch the ball in round 1 I wouldn't be worried.
It's not unnecessary, it's a discussion forum....

He had 13 touches and 3 tackles.

Which is a hell of a lot more than he has had of it in the 4 x pre-season games I've seen of him.


We all love him, we think he has huge potential. But if he turned out another game like that, I'd be tempted to start him in the VFL tbh. I doubt he's had a combined 30 touches in the last 7 hours of match practice.


Let's see how he responds in the next 2 matches...
 

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It's not unnecessary, it's a discussion forum....

He had 13 touches and 3 tackles.

Which is a hell of a lot more than he has had of it in the 4 x pre-season games I've seen of him.


We all love him, we think he has huge potential. But if he turned out another game like that, I'd be tempted to start him in the VFL tbh. I doubt he's had a combined 30 touches in the last 7 hours of match practice.


Let's see how he responds in the next 2 matches...
For what it's worth he averaged just over 12 touches and 3 tackles a game last year.
 

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It's not unnecessary, it's a discussion forum....

He had 13 touches and 3 tackles.

Which is a hell of a lot more than he has had of it in the 4 x pre-season games I've seen of him.


We all love him, we think he has huge potential. But if he turned out another game like that, I'd be tempted to start him in the VFL tbh. I doubt he's had a combined 30 touches in the last 7 hours of match practice.


Let's see how he responds in the next 2 matches...
He actually had 7 tackles, most of which were seriously brutal for a preseason match. He might have been poor in our intraclubs, but I didn't think he lacked intensity or had 'got ahead of himself' on the weekend. It was his poor disposal efficiency that let him down, like our whole team.
 

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For what it's worth he averaged just over 12 touches and 3 tackles a game last year.
He actually had 7 tackles, most of which were seriously brutal for a preseason match. He might have been poor in our intraclubs, but I didn't think he lacked intensity or had 'got ahead of himself' on the weekend. It was his poor disposal efficiency that let him down, like our whole team.
 

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Are you implying we should lower expectations accordingly?
Yeah, we can't have it both ways.

Pump his tyres up, then excuse what appears to be poor form (pre-season i know!)

I'm holding him to the same standard of expectations as Thomas, LDU, Larkey etc.

Irregardless of what his draft position he was. His potential is obvious now.
 

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Yeah, we can't have it both ways.

Pump his tyres up, then excuse what appears to be poor form (pre-season i know!)

I'm holding him to the same standard of expectations as Thomas, LDU, Larkey etc.

Irregardless of what his draft position he was. His potential is obvious now.
I'm surprised his draft position was raised.

If that was the intended logic we'll need to hold LDU to the sword then.
 

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Yeah, we can't have it both ways.

Pump his tyres up, then excuse what appears to be poor form (pre-season i know!)

I'm holding him to the same standard of expectations as Thomas, LDU, Larkey etc.

Irregardless of what his draft position he was. His potential is obvious now.
7 tackles tho. It's one thing to have a poor game, it's another to have a poor game but still push yourself enough to make that many tackles. More than double your last seasons average.

Everyone has bad games (and he wasn't alone in that on Friday,) but what you do when you have a bad game is important. Making 1%ers, tackles, shepherds and working for your teammates when you can't get the ball is a sign of some character in a player.
 

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Or LDU starts delivering on what he's (and we as a club highly invested in) paid for?

Not too much to ask is it?
Has had as many 20+ possession games in his first 20 games as Judd did. With shoulder issues.

If he is producing this output at the 50-60 game mark. We can worry.
 

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I'm holding him to the same standard of expectations as Thomas, LDU, Larkey etc.

Irregardless of what his draft position he was. His potential is obvious now.
:confounded: Okay Pykie, I let your 'should of's slide, but I draw the line here.

I'm holding you to the same standard of expectation as King Corey, regardless of the quality of your posting, and irrespective of your non-moderator status. :p
 

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:confounded: Okay Pykie, I let your 'should of's slide, but I draw the line here.

I'm holding you to the same standard of expectation as King Corey, regardless of the quality of your posting, and irrespective of your non-moderator status. :p
In all seriouslyness it's unnecessary to pull up poor english. Your not correct.
 

TennisPlayerAndy

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He was Martin before, now he's Judd.

I certainly hope you experts are right so yep OK.
I am in no way comparing his playing style, or ability to either of those players or any others. The point I’m making is that if a player doesn’t meet your own lofty expectations early on in their career, it doesn’t make them a disappointment

But you know that already Saintly.

How about Adrian McAdam? After his first season, he was tracking to be the greatest player to ever exist. Didn’t quite pan out that way.
 

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