Player Watch #44 Jake Lloyd - 2018 Bob Skilton medalist

[alex4445]

His kicking is not that bad usually although his lack of distance does reduce his options.

The main problem as i see it is that he is at his most effective when he provides relentless overlap run. When he can get the ball in our defensive 50 hit up a target and then get the hand ball receive, hit up another target and keep running he creates holes in the opposition defensive zone. At the moment i dont think he is really doing that.

 

[Punts]

Almost like the opposition coaches want the ball in his hand

Clarkson would never let Mal get the numbers Lloyd gets , always had Sheil to him.

Shows the quality of HB

Move him to the wing ASAP

 

[alex4445]

Almost like the opposition coaches want the ball in his hand

Clarkson would never let Mal get the numbers Lloyd gets , always had Sheil to him.

Shows the quality of HB

Move him to the wing ASAP

Wont happen with Mcveigh out. We really need his run through the middle and it would be nice if he was in fewer defensive contests.

 

[Bonz]

Almost like the opposition coaches want the ball in his hand

Clarkson would never let Mal get the numbers Lloyd gets , always had Sheil to him.

Shows the quality of HB

Move him to the wing ASAP

Who would you have replacing him off the half back line? We have moved Jones to the midfield, preferably we would like to move Mills to the midfield to assist with our inside ball. Our options with be Thurlow (Who hasn't looked great so far) and COR who probably isn't quite ready yet and neither have a safe kick out of defense.

 

[Punts]

Who would you have replacing him off the half back line? We have moved Jones to the midfield, preferably we would like to move Mills to the midfield to assist with our inside ball. Our options with be Thurlow (Who hasn't looked great so far) and COR who probably isn't quite ready yet and neither have a safe kick out of defense.

That’s the problem no one

List is shocking

 

[Bonz]

That’s the problem no one

List is shocking

I am not convinced our list is as shocking as some people make it out to be, we actually have some nice young players come through.

Key
McCartin
Blakey
Aliir
Melican (Think he will come good, but needs form)

Mixed Mid
Heeney
Mills
Jones

Outside Mid
Florent

Inside Mid
Hewitt (If he ever loses the tagging role)

Fwd Med
Hayward

Fwd Sml
Ronke
Papley
Hewitt

Def Sml
COR (I like COR, but think he needs extended time in the team).

Unknown
Dawson (I think should be Mid, but may be a utility type)
Ling (Would be an ideal fit on the half back flank, but has been injured for a very long period)



We do have a lack of Half back options with elite kicks (Outside of Ling), but if we were to look at it objectively how many teams in the league have players similar to Malceski coming off the half back flank? If there was a guaranteed Malceski type option in the draft they would comfortably go top 5.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cunningham being tried in defense, he isn't the worst option one on one and he has footskills and speed.

 

[The King!]

Ideally free rampe up

Reid melican aliir tall

 

[Bonz]

Ideally free rampe up

Reid melican aliir tall

This would be a good fix, but majority of teams will attempt to drag Melican up the ground and Longmire prefers to use Reid up forward.

 

[GotTheGoodes]

This would be a good fix, but majority of teams will attempt to drag Melican up the ground and Longmire prefers to use Reid up forward.

Zone Melican back. Have Aliir or Reid follow them up the ground... ?

 

[Bonz]

Zone Melican back. Have Aliir or Reid follow them up the ground... ?

Issue is that would allow most teams to manipulate the match up. Longmire usually prefers to keep players dedicated to a certain match up most of the time, its the reason why Aliir has been getting dragged back to the goal square this year.

Worst of all would be a team like Colllingwood or Richmond isolating a De Goey or Martin deep on Melican and burning him for speed.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Almost like the opposition coaches want the ball in his hand

Clarkson would never let Mal get the numbers Lloyd gets , always had Sheil to him.

Shows the quality of HB

Move him to the wing ASAP

He was poor last night but amazingly, once in the vicinity of the wing, his F50 was spot on! Go figure.

 

[zetz]

Has been poor this year

 

[The Gong]

Hardly the worst of our issues. He'll come good.

 

[scaryness]

He has been the same this year.

 

[caesar88]

He has been the same this year.

I don't think he's been the same. He looks much more uncertain and less confident this year than in previous years. Say what you like about Lloyd and his ineffective disposals and such, but one thing he could never be faulted on was being a composed, level head. Not the case this year. I think playing in a back six that is under such enormous pressure is doing him no favours.

I think the fact he is still not on a wing is a massive indictment on Horse.

 

[The King!]

He is playing fantasy footy out there

 

[Bloodied52]

Lloyd simply does the job he has been asked to do.

 

[The King!]

Lloyd simply does the job he has been asked to do.

Agree

It’s like asking a trained accountant to separate paper clips all day though

 

[S120]

I see why Longmire wants to keep him there at HB given we're trying to play a high possession, uncontested mark corridor heavy game and Lloyd on paper seems like he'd aid our transition out of defence. But to me it's just patently not working out that way. His kicking isn't penetrating enough to break open play or hit targets at distance and he's not quite quick enough to overlap heavily. And the opposition don't care that he wins 30 touches a week. That's the biggest thing to me, they allow it to happen because they're ok with it.

I'd love to see him on a wing so he can utilise his great running and accurate shorter distance kicking going inside 50. I'd be happy to let Dawson take up a HB spot to allow it. Athletic, booming kick and a good mark - ideal attributes to help free up Lloyd with.

 

[Superstar swan]

Whilst his stats are inflated,im a big fan of lloyd but last week he was deplorable by foot

 

[Bonz]

Whilst his stats are inflated,im a big fan of lloyd but last week he was deplorable by foot

Admittedly so was 3/4 of our team last week.

Makes me wonder what type of "pressure" training we do during pre-season.

 

[Superstar swan]

Admittedly so was 3/4 of our team last week.

Makes me wonder what type of "pressure" training we do during pre-season.

I have serious suspicions about our training level/standards

 

[The King!]

worst best and fairest winner i can remember and thats not that bad, talking good players, but he has no impact, teams push him back one on one and he can't/wont kick long anymore

id like to see a move to the middle, he looks lost

 

[S120]

I thought he was alright today, not great but not terrible. I'd love to see him up on a wing but I doubt it'll happen given how young the defence is and with Aliir not back there atm.

Dawson having a relatively quiet day hurt - goes to show his importance and that clubs are happy for Lloyd to get a lot of the ball out of defence.

 

[The King!]

he cost us a few goals