Player Watch #44 Sydney Stack

[tropicaltiger]

Name one other player who was played out of position for an entire season with no real result, then delisted. And I am not talking players without the required talent. Stack's talent is A grade.

And I have said for months that his papers were stamped, so I am not solely blaming the club.

Griggs was played out of position throughout 2017 and it was a massive reason we won the flag, same bloke thru himself under a bus mid year in 2019 to give pickett a chance to be with us.

you play for the tigers it means you play the position you are asked to play and when you are spent and your body can't give that 100% commitment that goes outside your comfort zone you hand over the batton to our next fella that wants to busts his guts. im a firm believer that being a ruckman when not suited and playing with injury and discomfort probably took at least a year off grigg and astburys careers. cotchin, graham, lambert, baker, caddy, lynch, rewoldt and now tarrant immediately come to mind as those who put team first and then daylight second as their motto. no wonder teams have tried to copy us.

i think this is sorta what dimma means when he says he's a 'richmond man'.

 

[A Tiger 4 lyf]

One of the most bizarre reasons of a delisting you’ll see


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[Grrr]

Griggs was played out of position throughout 2017 and it was a massive reason we won the flag, same bloke thru himself under a bus mid year in 2019 to give pickett a chance to be with us.

you play for the tigers it means you play the position you are asked to play and when you are spent and your body can't give that 100% commitment that goes outside your comfort zone you hand over the batton to our next fella that wants to busts his guts. im a firm believer that being a ruckman when not suited and playing with injury and discomfort probably took at least a year off grigg and astburys careers. cotchin, graham, lambert, baker, caddy, lynch, rewoldt and now tarrant immediately come to mind as those who put team first and then daylight second as their motto. no wonder teams have tried to copy us.

i think this is sorta what dimma means when he says he's a 'richmond man'.

Yes Grigg had a go in the ruck but for 5-8 minutes a quarter towards the finals series. He took one for the team.

And yes you play the position you are asked. But when that doesn't work, you replace that player and put a more natural replacement in and you put that player in a position where they can find form, not keep them in the one position all year then delist them.

I mentioned earlier that I thought his papers were stamped about 3/4 of the way through the year, and it is exactly for the reason you mentioned, 'the Richmond man' thing. I would bet that Stack might have ruffled a few feathers, besides being a bit unprofessional he must have done more than come in underprepared in October to warrant his non selection and his position forward in the VFL. Maybe he has a bit of a problem with authority, maybe a personality conflict, I don't really know, none of us do. All that talk of maybe playing Stack late in the year was a bit disingenuous I thought at the time. After a BOG and Castagna getting promoted I knew he was pretty much gone.

Not surprised at all when he was delisted, and reckon his manager would have been shopping him around way before the season was finished as both he and Stack would have read the tea leaves.

My only beef is that he was an elite talent and we wasted his talent up to a point last season. Maybe they didn't want him staring off half back, which he would have done, because then stamping his papers would have been even harder.

 

[TigerMoz1973]

A great pity about stacky being delisted but he didn't do himself any favours by rocking up out of shape every season. Says volumes about your attitude when not at the club. If he's up for the challenge he will make it elsewhere.

 

[West Tiger]

De Goey doesn't look in great shape either but he still gets it done.

In my opinion Richmond failed Stack and our "culture" is not all it's cracked up to be.

And what is this "Richmond man" bullshit I keep hearing about, is that Scott Turner, is it Knighter, Richo, maybe Brodders, wtf is it?

Getting a kebab with your mate should be the definition of a "Richmond man," that it's not is a disgrace.

I will not get another membership until everyone involved in this unfair treatment of Stack is gone from the club

 

[db26]

Got to laugh at people surprised at his delisting what 10 good games 3 years ago, and what has happened after that ? lack of professionalism , unfit every preseason, he had more then enough chances more than the average player talent is there but not the desire give me a kid with half his talent that wants it bad.

 

[Bojangles17]

Is that because Stack was cheating the club and himself whereas Dimma just cheated on the woman he had kids with?

What a completely irrational comment , go back over every one of stacks senior games from 20-22 and you’ll see why he was let go ,,,,Mods troll account est 11th October , check bona fides

 

[Grrr]

What a completely irrational comment , go back over every one of stacks senior games from 20-22 and you’ll see why he was let go ,,,,Mods troll account est 11th October , check bona fides

Rd.20-22 was injured in 2019 his first year. 2020 he didn't play after rd.13. This year was pretty good in the VFL in those rounds, and in 2021 rounds 20 and 21 he was excellent off half back with 21 and 25 possessions in the AFL coming off no preseason courtesy of the WA legal system. Not sure what you are trying to say.

 

[Grrr]

Got to laugh at people surprised at his delisting what 10 good games 3 years ago, and what has happened after that ? lack of professionalism , unfit every preseason, he had more then enough chances more than the average player talent is there but not the desire give me a kid with half his talent that wants it bad.

He was in our best players and named our best last in rd's 20-21 coming off no preseason last year due to jail and being stuck in WA until April.

 

[Spluff]

De Goey doesn't look in great shape either but he still gets it done.

In my opinion Richmond failed Stack and our "culture" is not all it's cracked up to be.

And what is this "Richmond man" bullshit I keep hearing about, is that Scott Turner, is it Knighter, Richo, maybe Brodders, wtf is it?

Getting a kebab with your mate should be the definition of a "Richmond man," that it's not is a disgrace.

I will not get another membership until everyone involved in this unfair treatment of Stack is gone from the club

If you think that breaking mandatory COVID protocols to get in a fight outside a kebab store is acceptable behaviour, then we probably don't want you as a member...

 

[_RT_]

De Goey doesn't look in great shape either but he still gets it done.

In my opinion Richmond failed Stack and our "culture" is not all it's cracked up to be.

And what is this "Richmond man" bullshit I keep hearing about, is that Scott Turner, is it Knighter, Richo, maybe Brodders, wtf is it?

Getting a kebab with your mate should be the definition of a "Richmond man," that it's not is a disgrace.

I will not get another membership until everyone involved in this unfair treatment of Stack is gone from the club

 

[Bojangles17]

Rd.20-22 was injured in 2019 his first year. 2020 he didn't play after rd.13. This year was pretty good in the VFL in those rounds, and in 2021 rounds 20 and 21 he was excellent off half back with 21 and 25 possessions in the AFL coming off no preseason courtesy of the WA legal system. Not sure what you are trying to say.

In last 3y i said he played a couple of ok games , rest ordinary . V freo prob highlight , nowhere near enough to warrant another contract , good luck to him

 

[Groupie_]

just got word we will re rookie

 

[yuwu1000]

Just copying what I wrote in another post:

Jeez on a roll here. Again I don't write on here much.

A few thoughts on Stack:

1. He was on the fringe... and whilst maybe his talent would have gotten him into the best 22, the coaches (Dimma and co) issues is probably more on standards.

If we let people come back unfit and not ready every season, then worked them back up and then played them at the back end.....we would be letting standards slip. We would not be a finals winning team and we would be an unprofessional rabble.

Other players would think that is a possible route and before long, we are a s**t team that let's players get away with this crap. We are now telling the players....you need BOTH talent and work ethic to get here....and if you don't have work ethic....we will cut you.

2. Then you will say, well we should have managed him to the micro level so that he would be ready...get him in shape in his private life....step in and make him professional....WELL idiots: you are 1 step in the direction of Hawthorn....

The team from a business and professional work sense can get you so far....the lessons of Hawthorn probably freaked out Richmond just as much. If we can't control you in your personal life as much, best to cut them out now

So all those that want then there for his "talent"....do you want the other plays to follow his lead in work ethic? If not, and try to organise his life....do you want the next report from Richmond to say: controlling indigenous kids....haven't AFL learnt?

Bring in people who are hungrier....and they could be upgrades to role players....s**t, we just brought in 2 A listers

 

[yuwu1000]

Following on from the above, who are we say what we have tried to do with Stack or what is going on in his personal life?

Where once, we may have given him ultimatums and given him minders and tried to break his associations with people.....do some of you think that in this environment we could/would do that?

No chance...so in this instance, we take a professional approach...where if you come to a workplace unfit to undertake your JOB, you are managed and removed from your place of work

 

[West Tiger]

So all those that want then there for his "talent"....do you want the other plays to follow his lead in work ethic?

He's not a leader though, and people tend to follow those that lead by example.

I just don't believe in letting young talent like that go, and we knew his issues when we picked him.

2019 the kid killed it, so he can do it, '20 & '21 covid hit and the kid wasn't playing, he has excuses in my opinion.

 

[sante]

He's not a leader though, and people tend to follow those that lead by example.

I just don't believe in letting young talent like that go, and we knew his issues when we picked him.

2019 the kid killed it, so he can do it, '20 & '21 covid hit and the kid wasn't playing, he has excuses in my opinion.

Everyone was affected by covid in those seasons. But it’s only unfair for Stack?

 

[Grrr]

Everyone was affected by covid in those seasons. But it’s only unfair for Stack?

No it was unfair on all and a lot of kids stagnated. But Stack had it harder than most because of the lack of stability in his home life. The kids had couch surfed since he was 14 years old, hence he wasn't drafted due to lack of discipline/stability. The off season was not a stable environment unlike most.

70% of kids coming into the AFL are from private schools where they are spoon fed into the program/rigours of AFL life. Most others are have supportive parents and live at home. Stack didn't have that so yes more unfair on him. Of course this does not justify his lack of professionalism, he should have learnt by now, but as we all know, he was behind the 8 ball from the start.

 

[yuwu1000]

He's not a leader though, and people tend to follow those that lead by example.

I just don't believe in letting young talent like that go, and we knew his issues when we picked him.

2019 the kid killed it, so he can do it, '20 & '21 covid hit and the kid wasn't playing, he has excuses in my opinion.

A leader in indigenous settings is different....how could you or I know who is swayed by his lifestyle?

At the end of the day, we can be disappointed but we really have no insight to make the right call like the coaches for the club

 

[cairo tiger]

train has left the station. the plane is of the runway. the horse has bolted.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Is that because Stack was cheating the club and himself whereas Dimma just cheated on the woman he had kids with?

Alrighty Stacky’s dad. Calm down

 

[Boston tiger]

Anywho .. he made it to the big show and gave probably one of the last great bumps we will see in the AFL. Might be glad that he’s heading home and happy to play some more second tier football somewhere for awhile.

 

[RJK Tiger]

If the club rookied him along with RCD & even Stocker i would be fine tbh. With minimal picks in the draft of quality, see its as a decent strategy

 

[tdyen]

While freo isn't interested I hope the weagles give him a go. But given Rioli left the weagles after all their support for him they probably have some underlying vibe against aborigines and Rioli left accordingly. So maybe he wouldn't find it a nice fit.

 

[West Tiger]

Everyone was affected by covid in those seasons. But it’s only unfair for Stack?

That is correct.

Stack is the type of guy that if he's not playing he'll get a kebab with a mate, to me that's a Richmond man!

Alrighty Stacky’s dad. Calm down

This is ridiculous, I mean here I am writing quality comments, telling it like it is, and you come up with that shit. If I was a mod you'd get a week off for being stupid.